Night Walker Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Filmed evidence, whilst not conclusive, would at least go a long way in objectively confirming that people in their research/â€research†areas are, indeed, seeing what they claim to be seeing. There is none of that. There are just lots of claims. That is a major problem with the Bigfoot=Flesh-&-Blood hypothesis… Everyone laughs when they jump at shadows in Finding Bigfoot – that that is just for show. Everyone (ie researchers/"researchers") claims to be encountering Bigfoot for real fairly regularly yet the evidence does not reflect that. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSA Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) As distasteful as it is to say, ruthlessness and cold-bloodedness is probably the best strategy. Forget sportsmanship, fair play and moral decency(as some interpret it to be). Months, maybe years should be spent acclimating and habituating one of more individual targets. No weapons or aggressive behavior would be permitted until the ultimate moment when one is summarily executed, preferably from behind, without any warning. Careful premeditation and calculated murder is the percentage strategy, and it would take somebody of a very unique disposition to pull this off. PETA will be outraged, as you might expect. Edited August 14, 2015 by WSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'm thinking, the best way would be a "hands across America" approach. Hire enough people to be able to form a chain, north to south along the west coast from Mexico to Canada then everyone just walks east, or just encircle Oregon with people and start walking towards the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hello Nakani, Or form a watch circle around one of these areas: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted August 14, 2015 Admin Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 I can stickpin at night from my ranch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Hello Norseman, Maybe one approach for the "Hunt" WOULD be to utilize this kind of info as a kind of Plan B? It would mean a more expensive "storm chaser" program but using the natural principle of running-toward-the-wind might place assets in a position ahead of animal flight from affected areas. Edited August 14, 2015 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted August 14, 2015 Admin Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) As a ex firefighter i would not suggest getting down wind of a forest fire much too dangerous. Stickpin was 3000 aces yesterday and today it is 12500 acres. They fight forest fires from their flanks on the ground. The only way to take a fire head on is with air assets or back burning. Edited August 14, 2015 by norseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) Hello Norseman. Yeah, It's why I suggested staging upwind of the fire to watch for animals heading upwind. NWS forcast for Your area: "Scattered showers and thunderstorms. Some storms could be severe, with large hail, damaging winds, and heavy rain. Partly sunny, with a high near 89. South wind 11 to 18 mph, with gusts as high as 25 mph. Chance of precipitation is 50%. New rainfall amounts of less than a tenth of an inch, except higher amounts possible in thunderstorms." So staging upwind would place assets on the South side of the fire. This is the current status of the Stickpin fire: http://gacc.nifc.gov/nwcc/information/fire_info#WA-COF-001111 Edited August 14, 2015 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted August 14, 2015 Admin Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 http://www.khq.com/story/29784538/stickpin-fire-grows-to-12500-acres-voluntary-evacuations-in-place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hello Norseman, Firefighter safety exits are number one on the list so it looks as though there will be quite a bit of timber lost in the area. Not much to be done with the heat and winds forecasted. If BF was in the area they are long gone along with everything else that could escape. Your lightening storms certainly had their way with the forests this week it would appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I wonder this, but can't find info on it anywhere so I'm just asking it here. And I'm not allowed to start a thread yet (insert self-pitying sad face here). There are enough sightings of BF in the daytime to make me believe that they simply are not nocturnal. They may not follow the human circadian rhythm of sleep/awake, but I think searching for them at night only increases the gap between our senses and theirs. So, if anything, BF see us better in the night, so we have pretty much no chance of detecting them at night before they detect us. From evolution, they likely hear and detect scent better than we do. I hypothesize that the reason they are so successfully elusive to humans is that they can sense us in ways we can't imagine...sight, sound, smell, electromagnetically? Plus, those red eyes so many report may have qualities on the ultra-violet spectrum that we can't even imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIB Posted August 14, 2015 Moderator Share Posted August 14, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure I understand what your question is. I will agree that they are not **strictly** nocturnal. I've seen one near dusk, one in bright mid-morning daylight, and I've been approached after dark in camp by one I think had been hanging out in the dark watching for some extended period of time. Opportunists. I'm not convinced it is necessary for them to have any special ability to know we're around. There are enough accidental sightings to suggest they probably do not. As a hunter, I know that if one "critter" is sitting still and another "critter" is moving, the one sitting still has the strategic advantages. The thing sitting still only has to watch for motion. The thing moving has to pick out the shapes of what's sitting still which is complicated even further because the motion itself causes the shapes to change. What is sitting still makes no noise, what is moving makes noise to give itself away plus that noise masks any other noises. On and on. I think if they had other abilities, accidental encounters would not occur. They do. It is still possible, maybe they get distracted or something like that. It doesn't pay to be too sure either way I'm afraid. Allow for the possibility but don't bet too much on it. MIB PS: This is the first post of yours I've seen so welcome!! EDIT: eyes ... I don't think it's UV they see in, more likely it's infared. That would be more compatible with their apparent ability to see and avoid trail cameras since many of them use an IR, not UV, "trip" beam. I suppose it is possible they see farther into both ends of the spectrum, but if I had to bet (and I do ) I'd bet they see deeper into the slower wavelengths, not the faster ones. Edited August 14, 2015 by MIB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hello MIB, Motion does have a lot to do with success on the part of something stationary in at least the area of observation without being observed. @ CertainSum1, Your post shows that your are thinking in good directions. Also that you may be one of those valuable in the area of problem solving. A little knowledge can go a long way and there's always much more to learn here. Welcome to the Forum BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted August 14, 2015 SSR Team Share Posted August 14, 2015 I wonder this, but can't find info on it anywhere so I'm just asking it here. And I'm not allowed to start a thread yet (insert self-pitying sad face here). There are enough sightings of BF in the daytime to make me believe that they simply are not nocturnal. They may not follow the human circadian rhythm of sleep/awake, but I think searching for them at night only increases the gap between our senses and theirs. So, if anything, BF see us better in the night, so we have pretty much no chance of detecting them at night before they detect us. From evolution, they likely hear and detect scent better than we do. I hypothesize that the reason they are so successfully elusive to humans is that they can sense us in ways we can't imagine...sight, sound, smell, electromagnetically? Plus, those red eyes so many report may have qualities on the ultra-violet spectrum that we can't even imagine. 1,300 Class A reports, which are visual reports, in our SSR database with 761 having date and times given from across North America. 380 of those were within daylight hours, 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Hello BobbyO, In following up on the idea of BF being on the move, along with bears, deer, elk, and other animals both large and small a question comes to mind. Would the SSR benefit at all with having the sightings database expanded to include recent wildfire occurring during or before a specific area's sighting event? An example would be say a sighting reported in the Southern region of the Colville Forest during or after the current fire there? Not saying there will be a sighting of course but searching the archived logs of wildfire dates and seeing if there's a correlation to any BF sightings in the database might show something of interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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