Where You Think Bigfoot Does Not Exist.

[norseman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmW3n7EA4fA#t=19

 

I see Ponderosa pine, Lodge pole pine, Aspen and Sagebrush in this video. I would have to say that at least certain parts of the Humboldt-Toiyabe NF is suitable habitat.

 

If it's not? We better be discounting much more of the west as no good, than just the California/Nevada line.

 

 

[Explorer]

Just because a BF sighting took place in a range in Nevada, Arizona, NM or Utah does not mean that there is no water even if the range is surrounded by desert.

It really depends on the type of desert.

 

I have hiked/backpacked in many desert mountain ranges in Nevada and CA (Great Basin) and can usually find water (but need to check topo maps ahead of time to look for springs/creeks). Have also hiked in mountain ranges in AZ and NM surrounded by desert and have found plenty of water (for example Gila Wilderness and White Mountain Wilderness in New Mexico).  In Arizona, you got the Mogollon rim dropping into lower level desert with many creeks and streams.  I would not be surprised if most of BF sightings in AZ deserts happen close to water or riparian corridors.

 

I have been a member of a desert hiking/backpacking club (see DS link below) since 1989 and have been all over the SW but mainly in CA and Nevada and used to live in West Texas/Southern NM area. 

Thus, I have seen plenty of diversity in ecosystems and desert types sustaining all sorts of different wildlife within these so called southwestern dry states.

http://www.desert-survivors.org/

 

I remember seeing beautiful glacier lakes on top of some ranges in North central Nevada surrounded by desert (can't recall the name since it has been years).

 

Two questions that we should ask about a mountain range that had BF sightings are:

1) Does it support a bear population?

2) Does it support a deer population?

 

In the BFRO Nevada case that Kit posted, which took place in the White Mountain range, I checked the wildlife management agencies and there are no bear populations.

However, there is a deer herd.  See link below.

 

https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Regions/6/Mule-Deer/White-Mountain-Deer-Study

 

So if the desert mountain range can sustain a deer herd, maybe a BF could pass thru and collect. Who knows? 

But the point is that this range can sustain wildlife.

Edited September 17, 2015 by Explorer

[norseman]

http://www.ndow.org/Species/Furbearer/Black_Bear/

 

Range:

The American Black Bear is the only bear species occurring naturally in Nevada. Range includes mountainous areas and foothills of Lake Tahoe, the sierra Nevada mountains and nearby mountain ranges in extreme western Nevada.

[kitakaze]

 

 

 

Or if we are to use BFRO reports to figure out where Bigfoot isn't, maybe look at North Dakota

ND Google Earth.jpg

 

Multiple witness report near White Shield, North Dakota...

 

Report # 12562 (Class A) 

Submitted by witness on Monday, September 12, 2005.

Multiple witness sighting near White Shield

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YEAR: 2005

SEASON: Summer

MONTH: August

DATE: 27

STATE: North Dakota

COUNTY: McLean County

LOCATION DETAILS: From Garrison take Highway 37 west, keep going west when you hit 1804 to White Shild then turn North on BIA 1 which takes you thru White Shield, North of White Shield about 1/2 mile you will hit Country Road 6 that where big foot was seen crossing the road...

NEAREST TOWN: White Shield

NEAREST ROAD: Country Road 7, Highway 37

OBSERVED: On Aug 26 around 2:20-2:30am my two cousins were driving back from Minot, they took the back roads to get home faster. They were about 2-3 miles from home on Counrty Road 7 when they said that they were just talking and notice on the left side in the North bound lane a large brown hairy 7-8ft tall thing was standing there, they said they were going about 50-55mph and slowed down a bit, as they passed by it they taped on the brake and in the brake lights they saw it and punched it back home, they said they were so scared that they were going aleast 90mph to get back. As they got to one of my cousins house they went and wroke my Uncle up and told him that they saw big foot. Then they drove to my house and wroke me up, so i said them "yeah right like you seen a big foot around here". They were both scared and shaking so thats when i knew that they saw something, so I took two spotlights a 5 million and a 3.5 million, my Uncle had a 1 million light also. We asked them to show us, in which they were both agreed after the calmed down a bit. we left there car and took my Aunts van and headed north, they showed us the spot and i marked by throwing out a full water bottle and I asked them which way do you think it was going and if they seen more, she said that "it might of been moving West", so we headed West bound on Country Rd. 6 just North of White Shield as we headed about 1-2miles west from Country Rd. 7 we turned North bound on Country Rd. 5 as we were spotlighting in the cut Wheat Fields. I was on the passenger side and my Uncle was driving we were both looking around with the lights when I picked up a bright RED reflection of eyes, as i told my Uncle to stop i notice that this thing was on all fours moving west towards us and then it stop and what looked like it sat down, i mean it looked like a gorrilla from the movies. As we stoped and sat there we must of been watching it for about 3-5mins, It seemed unreal to me but as i started to realize that this is happing and that we don't have gorrilla's in North Dakota that is when my Uncle notice two more sets of eyes behind the one we were watching, my cousins started screaming and cussing at us to leave and to get the Cops and Game & Fish, so after that we started to turn around and head back in i noticed it stood up that's when i said hurry up lets get Game & Fish out here. When i arrived at my house my cousin called the BIA and they said they will contact the Game Warden. My Uncle and I told my cousin to tell them that we are going to go back out there and wait for the Game Warden, my cousins stayed. My cousin husband wanted to go with us. As we started to turn on country Rd. 5 thats when we noticed the smell of pee and old sweet and slew odor, it wasn't us because i checked the smell inside that van and it smelled better then the outside. We stoped and jumped out and started to listen, thats when we noticed the truck lights on Country Rd. 6 it was the Game Warden. We flashed him down and talked to him and gave all the info so he said he will check the field out and left moving East with all his spotlights on. As we talked my Uncle said "try to call it" so my cousin husband made a howling sound and sure enough another sound came back a faint bellow South West of us about 1/2-1mi. There is no cattle around there so we started to head in that direction and stoped where we thought the sound was at. we had the windows down and started to listen for any sound, there was none not even crickets or birds or grasshoppers chirping so we turned around and left, stoped Game Warden and we stated looking untill 7am that morning, we noticed that there were lots of slew and deep weeds a place for a good hiding spot. On the next day we started looking for prints and we found some impressions in the cut wheat field and ditch, the prints were close to 15 1/5 inches and about 5 1/2 - 6 inches wide. We stoped a BIA officer and told him that we found some imprssions so he came out there and took some pictures, the foot prints pointed in a East direction as we started to track them we found 3 other sets that seemed like they were zigziging around, after an 30min or so we track it to a tree row where it seemed that there were spots of cut hay put into piles and pine tree branches 2in thick snaped off, the sap still ozzing out from the break, and sunflower or tall weeds stems in that spot, there was no tall weeds around that spot, so we walked around and found a slew just at the end of the tree row about 200yards away, had the same stems from the weeds. On the 31st of Aug my Uncle and I kinda made a path of direction, it looks like they follow slews and small ponds maybe for drinking water. The direction was taking them to Lake Sakakawea, has we tested taht theory we were West of White Shield when we heard a low scream, a dog that lived at a farm house started to bark. Where the spot we seen it and to the location where we heard it, are theory was correct. On Sept 4 since we left them alone for a couple of days we went to the spot where we thought the would be at.. NO Luck they weren't there so that was the end of the search or hunt, until Sept 9 when 6 kids saw a tall black thing running on two legs heading West on BIA 1 just 1/2mi North of White Shield, I talked to the kids and the said when it was running in the field it was black and on two legs and as it crossed the road it took 3 steps and it was on the other side. This was around 9pm and the sun was setting. By the time the kids told it was dark, my Uncle and I drove back there and found nothing, the next day Sept 10 we tried to find the path where this thing or big foot crossed, we are still looking for signs or even better prints. Thats it for now.. will update later

ALSO NOTICED: Smell of pee and slew, grunting noise, fant screams.. I did't mention this in the story but on the same night my neighbors kids said they heard knocking sounds comming from the trees North of White Shield..

OTHER WITNESSES: My Uncle and I..my Cousins Which are the main witness..6 Kids that might of seen bigfoot running across the road.

OTHER STORIES: I think it was last year that they saw a big foot in the New Town area or two years ago. Plus I was told storys of big foot at the Lake so thats why i was kinda shocked that it was so close to town.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: It was Night..around 2am..no moon and it was clear skies. When kids saw it, it was almost dark.

ENVIRONMENT: Wheat Field on both sides of the Road..some tree rows about 150-200yard from pavement..slews.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Gary Christensen:

[Editor's Note: The BFRO has received several reports describing this particular incident.]

I spoke with the reporting witness for over an hour at his home in White Shield, North Dakota. In addition to his submitted report, he also shared the following details: 

The creature was about 100 yards from the witnesses when it was illuminated by their spotlight. No facial features were observed, but the torso and legs were described as long and thick. The animal was first seen on all fours, but when illuminated, sat down. After 3-5 minutes, it stood up on two legs, and additional eye-shine was observed farther out in the field. At that point, the creature advanced toward the spotlight. This action caused panic among some of the witnesses, so they departed to find the authorities. The next day, several sets of tracks were found in several locations. Sizes ranged from 4 to 15 inches in length, and 2 to 7 inches in width. The stride was as much as 5 feet, and although most tracks were aligned, some zig-zagged. 

Over the next 5 months, additional activity occurred, including sightings, vocalizations, tree knocking, and footprints. The witness maintains a computer database of bigfoot-related activity that dates back to 1998. He also has a color-coded map of the sightings, footprints, and sounds that he has personally observed, and also includes reports by others in his community. 

The witness and I shared contact information and agreed to contact one another if additional activity occurs.

 

 

 

 

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=12562

 

4x4 Bigfoot, game wardens, crossing the road in three steps - this one has it all. If you can wade through it, it is so clearly made up entirely that it is farcical that it made it onto the BFRO as a serious report.

[kitakaze]

The following report from North Dakota I am quite confident was not fabricated and indicates genuine accounts. What it deals with is a rash of sightings that would have Bigfoot existing not only on the plains of North Dakota, but coming into at least one town to a trailer park...

 

(photo included of the community where the first sighting occurred)

 

 

Report # 8165 (Class A) 

Submitted on Thursday, March 04, 2004.Rash of sighting reports from multiple witnesses(Show Printer-friendly Version)

YEAR: 2004

SEASON: Winter

MONTH: February

DATE: 22

STATE: North Dakota

COUNTY: Mountrail County

NEAREST TOWN: New Town

NEAREST ROAD: ND Highway 22

OBSERVED: (Please see Minot Daily News Vol.88 No.63 for March 3, 2004 for full story.)

ALSO NOTICED: There was also another sighting that day farther south of New Town. On February 23 there was another unconfirmed sighting in Mandaree. On February 24 two area men reported they spotted a bigfoot creature walking along Highway 22 southwest of Mandaree.

OTHER WITNESSES: one adult female and more than one child

ENVIRONMENT: trailer court near trees

Follow-up investigation report:

This report is very unique, as it is comprehensive of at least four purported sightings in the span of three days, demonstrating a path of travel in a south to southwest direction covering 35 miles. It also illustrates the observation potential of an animal such as this traveling such a distance across open, thinly forested terrain.

It must be noted as a preface to this commentary the difficulty I had in locating and/or contacting witnesses related to these events, albeit I was on location at the tribal headquarters and traveled around the general area with the Public Relations Director and the Minot Daily News reporter for an entire day. As you will read below, the witnesses were either unwilling to discuss the incident, did not own a telephone, were not located, or actually died prior to my arrival. Some of the information listed below was collected by either the tribal headquarters officials or news reporter Eloise Ogden, who received it directly from witnesses, and subsequently shared with me.

Here is the report:

Location - Ft. Berthold Reservation of the Mandan, Hidatsa & Arikara Nation. Tribal headquarters is located on the outskirts of New Town, North Dakota, approximately 90 miles north of Dickinson, ND.

Timeline of Events:

Sunday, February 22, 2004

Sighting occurs near trailer park located on the southeast edge of New Town, ND. In mid-afternoon, a group of small children allegedly see a large, hairy animal standing on two legs and immediately become frightened and begin screaming, running towards their trailer. Hearing the commotion outside, the woman in the nearest trailer, the mother of two of the children, rushes outside. She witnesses the animal walking hurriedly away from the area. She is quoted as saying, "I don't know how big it was, but it just pushed through those trees like you're going through bushes and it was moving fast."  

(By the time I arrived in New Town, the woman would no longer speak to anyone about the experience. She was still very upset about it, and claimed her children were afraid at night and would no longer go outside. She wants her children to forget the event ever happened, and refused to meet with me.)

Later the same evening of February 22, 2004, a second sighting was reported approximately eight (

miles south of New Town, just west of Muskrat Lake. No details were obtained.  

 

 

Tuesday, February 24, 2004

Night-time sighting reported by two women who claim to have seen hairy man-like animal through the window of their home. The location was adjacent to Hwy 22 approximately five (5) miles southwest of the town of Mandaree, (pronounced Man-da-ray). The location of this home is approximately 17.5 miles southwest of the second sighting, and 25.5 miles south/southwest of the initial trailer park sighting. What is of particular interest in this instance, is that to reach this location, the animal in question had to cross Lake Sakakawea. At the time of this incident, Lake Sakakawea was covered with a thick sheet of winter ice. It was possible to walk across the lake at this time. However, having visited the area, I can attest to the fact that the lake essentially stands as a river, one mile across. There is next to no tree growth or foliage along the shore of the lake. It would be quite easy to spot a large, dark figure walking across the ice-covered lake. One would assume the lake was crossed under the cover of darkness, but it is also worth mentioning that there are few sections of lake shore with any development existing outside of the New Town vicinity. Lake Sakakawea is one of five major lakes created on the Missouri River by the federal government in an effort to eliminate the annual flooding of river lowlands. Lake Sakakawea is located in west-central North Dakota stretching from the Garrison Dam at Riverdale, ND, nearly 150 miles to the Montana border. The lake covers over 365,000 surface acres and has an extended shoreline of over 1,500 miles. The width of Sakakawea ranges from one to 14 miles wide with the Van Hook Arm the widest area of the lake.

The two women who reported the sighting near their home southwest of Mandaree to the tribal headquarters did not have a phone and I was not able to discuss their sighting directly. I was also not allowed to "drop in" on their home to discuss their experience.

Wednesday, February 25, 2004

In the dark hours of the late evening two men were driving south from Mandaree on Hwy 22. The elder of the two, at age 49, and the younger at age 22. Just after passing the junction of BIA 14, upon cresting a rise in the road, the two men saw a very large, hair-covered animal walking on two legs down the middle of the road. The driver stopped the vehicle quickly, and after being illuminated in the headlights, the animal walked to their right and down into the ditch. It then walked out of sight directly to the south. Apparently, another car that was traveling close behind these witnesses, and quickly veered around them after they stopped and sped away. It was assumed that the occupants of the second car could not have missed seeing the creature. (This information is taken second hand from the nephew of the older witness.)

Thursday, February 26, 2004

The elder witness invites his nephew and friend to accompany him to the location of the sighting to look for tracks. The two younger men invite three other friends to join them. (The names of all witnesses and the afore-mentioned friends are withheld for reasons of privacy.)  

Upon searching the ditch near the location of the sighting, all six men discovered a long line of footprints in the snow, running parallel to the highway in a southerly direction. In a later interview, the nephew estimated the line of tracks to be nearly 300 yards long. The length of stride was estimated between four and five feet. This would equate to approximately 150 footprints made in the snow that night! The witnesses also indicated that between 6 and 10 tracks were found with clear toe impressions. The individual tracks were estimated at 15-17 inches long, and generally 4-5 inches across, but definitely widening towards the toes. Many tracks displayed evidence of a mid-tarsal break, or flexible foot; the compression of snow pile in the middle of the track.  

The group ultimately followed the line of footprints and claimed the tracks drifted back towards the pavement and eventually stopped, indicating the animal's return to walking on the pavement of the highway. The group then drove a mile or two south on the highway searching for tracks signaling where the animal may have again wandered off the road. No additional tracks were located.  

While walking along the highway, two more acquaintances of the nephew stopped by in their vehicle to inquire as to what was happening. They were also witness to the long line of tracks.  

Friday, February 27, 2004

Dennis Fox, Jr, Director of the Independence Program and Paul Danks, administrator of the Natural Resources Department, both of the Three Affiliated Tribes, drove to the sighting location to photograph the line of tracks. With the temperatures warming through the area, significant melting had occured and consequently, the detail found in the tracks had been lost. Dennis did take photos of several tracks and their deep impression in the snow, (see BFRO report #8130). He and Danks also followed the tracks until they veered back towards the pavement and ended. They also searched further down the highway for tracks indicating when the animal had again left the pavement, but they found none.  

Surprisingly and suddenly, on the morning of the same day, the elder witness, age 49, died of a brain aneurysm. Many acquaintances of the witness described him as being highly distressed because of the sighting the last two days before his death. In addition, because of the beliefs of many Native Americans, several people associated the witness' death with the sighting. There seemed to be great concern about this coincidence among many tribal members. 

A note about the terrain:

The western central North Dakota landscape harbors two distinct types of terrain. There are the very slight rolling hills, many covered with fields of grain, which support very little tree and brush growth. It is truly the flat and rolling plains of North Dakota. Yet, hidden amongst these numerous fields are countless ravines, draws, and canyons that support significantly thick tree and brush growth. The largest example of this change in terrain is that commonly known as the "badlands". The concept and structure of the badlands is very similar to that of the Grand Canyon. Giant rifts have been carved out of the landscape by both water and wind. The subsequent erosion of these factors created uniquely rounded and graduated pinnacle-style geologic formations of the rock and sand. Interspersed between these geologic formations are the wooded drainages and ravines, which could provide adequate cover and shelter for an animal such as described by the witnesses.  

Final notes:

As mentioned above, I traveled to Fort Berthold Reservation nearly two weeks after the sightings occurred. I spent the majority of the day in the tribal headquarters building interviewing numerous people about all types of bigfoot experiences. Quite frankly, there were too many accounts to handle in one day. It quickly became apparent that a significant history of activity has been occurring for years on the reservation, and truly warrants further study. Hopefully, these additional experiences will be published in later reports. 

(Let it also be known that to engage in any type of investigation or travel on the reservation, one must acquire permission through the tribal headquarters office prior to arrival.)

The remainder of the day was spent visiting the various sighting locations, (all potential evidence in the snow completely obliterated by two weeks of early spring temperatures), and interviewing the elder witness' nephew and friend about the footprints they viewed along the road. It was quite apparent that having seen the tracks truly affected each man. They were still somewhat shook up about the incident.  

Based upon the number of witnesses, the suggested path of travel, the longevity of activity that was shared with me, and of course, the documented line of tracks in the snow, it is the opinion of this investigator that this was in fact, an authentic encounter of a bipedal, hair-covered animal in the "badlands" of North Dakota.

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=8165

 

While much of the information was gathered second hand by the investigator, I think there was no fabrication on the part of the witnesses. There were multiple sightings over a period of days in a localized area and tracks were documented.

 

What this indicates is that if genuine North Dakota is Bigfoot habitat. How do people account for these sightings and tracks in the middle of the plains of North Dakota?

[kitakaze]

 

 

 

If we are to discuss desert sightings, maybe the conversation should move to Arizona and New Mexico.

AZ NM Google Earth.jpg

 

 

Las Vegas, New Mexico gas station sighting by scientist skeptic...

 

Report # 43399  (Class A) 

Submitted by witness on Sunday, December 22, 2013.Scientist skeptic has early morning encounter behind gas station near Las Vegas, NM(Show Printer-friendly Version)

YEAR: 2013

SEASON: Fall

MONTH: October

DATE: 18

STATE: New Mexico

COUNTY: San Miguel County

LOCATION DETAILS: It is the Southernmost gas station off of I-25 from Las Vegas, NM. It is a large service center.

NEAREST TOWN: Las Vegas, NM

NEAREST ROAD: I-25 South, appx. 500 feet away

OBSERVED: My wife and I were driving home from Denver, Colorado to Albuquerque, NM and stopped at a gas station in Las Vegas, NM (I believe it was a Philips 66) at approximately 0100 on 10/18/2013. We pulled off of I-25 Southbound into the gas station parking lot. When we were driving down the frontage road towards the gas station, we saw a few vehicles on the far end of the parking lot with 3-4 people talking and a NM State Police cruiser was leaving the lot, however, upon parking in front of the gas station, we discovered that it was closed. I needed to pee rather urgently, so I ran around to the back of the station to find a dark place to do my business. I walked about 15-20 meters behind the gas station to be out of sight of the occupied vehicles in the gas station lot. As I was urinating I began to feel...uncomfortable. I was peeing in open ground and initially thought somebody was walking up behind me (probably to do the same thing). I craned a looked around and saw nobody and no animals; just a blanket feeling that somebody was very near me. As I finished peeing, I turned and began briskly walking back towards our vehicle. As I was hurrying back I turned to look behind me; and that is when I became a believer.

Before I continue, I would like to preface my anecdote by alluding to my high-level of academic credentialing alongside my occupation as a healthcare executive. I also provide executive and technical advise to elected and appointed officials; I have worked very hard to become an expert based on empirical analysis and studied fact. I did not believe in Bigfoot, ghosts or another unexplained anomalies. I believed in results, hard work and, well, results. My perspective is now very different.

As I turned and looked over my left shoulder, I saw an enormous, lurking animal. The animal was crouched over, almost as if taking cover in the sparse and cold vegetation. In fact, I think the creature watched me the whole time, and did not make so much as a noise. However, the creature noticed when I saw it. The creature stood up, and quickly lumbered into the dark away from the direction of the parking lot. The one attribute of the creature that resounded with me was how heavy the footfall was. It sounded like somebody dropping a sack of potatoes over and over again. And it was fast. I observed the creature for about 8-11 seconds, from the moment it realized I saw it, to watching the animal dart into the wood line. Due to radiant light from the parking lot, I could make steady detail of the fleeing creature. Here are the salient points from my memory (aside form the footfall):

1) The creature was approximately 8-10 feet tall. I am 6"2 and this animal would have towered over me ( I observed it on flat land lending to my estimation).

2) The hair on the creature was matted, like dogs that live outside. The coloration was dark brown.

3) The creature had a defined gait. It took strides that I would estimate to be 3-4 of my strides per 1 of it's strides.

4) The creature had massive, human like hands.  

5) The creature was very skittish, not moving until realizing I was observing it, lending to a higher intellect that a brown bear. I believe the creature may have even fled in fear.

6) I did not make eye contact, but noticed a massive brown and defined jaw and cranial structure.

There is one other trait that I have since read about that may allude to this being a New Mexico Bigfoot. The air was rank with what I thought was the dumpster behind the gas station. However, this may be the "musk" eyewitnesses have reported in the past. I cannot be sure, but it was very powerful, and somewhat reminiscent of what I perceived to be urine.

This incident was fearful and moving. I was unable to sleep for days and could not even bring myself to tell my wife until recently. Due to my profession and reputation, I have extreme, extreme reluctance about openly sharing my encounter. However, I have personal visual evidence of a so-called mythical beast, and I do not know what to do with it.

Another fact: I have a concealed carry handgun license in the State of New Mexico and was carrying a 1911 .45 at the time of incident. I was so scared that reaching for my weapon would have been an afterthought. I was actually scared stiff. 

ALSO NOTICED: The animal was trying to stay hidden. Very cognizant of what I was and when I noticed it.

OTHER WITNESSES: No. But there were people very nearby. I actually do not know if anybody else saw the creature. I fled to my vehicle and left very, very rapidly.

OTHER STORIES: No. I did not believe in crypto-zoological animals until this occured.

TIME AND CONDITIONS: 0100. It was chilly ( I could see my breath in the air). A moderately well lit area because of light splash from a nearby gas station. Enough to see a solid silhouette and some color.

ENVIRONMENT: Rocky tundra with a nearby forest line. Pinon's, sagebrush and ragweed.

Follow-up investigation report by BFRO Investigator Boyd Omer:

I had the privilege of speaking on the phone and exchanging multiple emails with this witness. He reiterated his fear and wonderment of this early morning encounter. He mentioned that he is a highly credentialed scientist in the medical field. Having a scientific background, the witness finds this personal encounter challenges the rational concept that these animals don't exist per current scientific knowledge. He has a lot of trouble admitting this animal exists, but now must admit it.

The witness has returned to the location during the daylight and provided some photos of the area. The area is very open. The witness now realizes that as he urinated the animal was out in the open and crouched down very close by. After daytime viewing of the area the witness also would like to revise his estimate of the animal's height to the 7 to 8 foot range. 

Further details were brought forth by the witness during our discussion. He remembers the area smelling like cat urine. The witness says it reminded him of a mountain lion's urine, a smell that he is familiar with in the past. Also shared, as the witness walked back toward his car he looked back over his shoulder and observed this animal rise up and move off. In his estimation the animal weighed 500 to 600 pounds. The hair was matted and dirty looking. It had long arms and human shaped hands. He noted that the animals hands were dinner plate in size. The animal used its arms for momentum as part of its rapid, fluid, swift stride. The witness describes the animals movement as graceful, clean and flowing with no head movement. 

The witness mentioned that he was armed at the time and felt that he was still overpowered as well as dumbfounded by what he was seeing. He commented that he felt the animal was annoyed by his presence. He also told me that he thought the animal was watching the activity of the other people in the area when approached accidentally by the witness.

I looked at this gas station on Google Earth and determined that it also is a Subway sandwich shop. There is a dumpster in the area of this sighting. This could be a food source for this large animal? The Gallinas River is two miles east and the Santa Fe National Forest is directly to the west and north.  

I find the witness to be highly educated and sincere in all his statements. I'm glad the witness chose to share his remarkable experience with BFRO.

 

 

 

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=43399

 

How do people account for this sighting report?

[Guest DWA]

^{In other words:  that's why they're reported from every state but Hawaii.  THEY'RE FOUND IN ALL OF THEM.  Thanks for clearing that up, Kit!}

[Guest DWA]

"4x4 Bigfoot, game wardens, crossing the road in three steps - this one has it all. If you can wade through it, it is so clearly made up entirely that it is farcical that it made it onto the BFRO as a serious report."

 

That is such a non-sequitur (I find few using so many words) that I am amazed that it made it onto the BFF as a serious critique.

[Incorrigible1]

DWA,  you have your own individual belief about things.

 

That you can grouse about things........

Edited September 17, 2015 by Incorrigible1

[kitakaze]

^{In other words:  that's why they're reported from every state but Hawaii.  THEY'RE FOUND IN ALL OF THEM.  Thanks for clearing that up, Kit!}

 

Thanks for the all caps howling (serious someone needs to do a clinical study on the use of allcaps and fortean addiction), but it's the first line of my sig.

"4x4 Bigfoot, game wardens, crossing the road in three steps - this one has it all. If you can wade through it, it is so clearly made up entirely that it is farcical that it made it onto the BFRO as a serious report."

 

That is such a non-sequitur (I find few using so many words) that I am amazed that it made it onto the BFF as a serious critique.

 

The beginning of that sentence reads essentially "I chocolate Wednesday finger manager it kiwi."

 

The thread is about where Bigfoot isn't. The suggestion of North Dakota was made. A North Dakota report which is obviously fabricated is shown.

 

What specifically do you find authentic about the report?

[dmaker]

What's that? A fabricated bigfoot report, you say??

 

[norseman]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jUhqCGP_7Fg

[WSA]

If any want to <ahem> dive deep into the subject of water in arid NA...check out Craig Childs', The Secret Knowledge of Water.  You will come to understand, as he explains very eloquently,  entire desert regions can best be appreciated as water-born  landscapes. It is not drought or dryness that define them, but the punctuated changes wrought by water. And in between the rains, it remains available to those who know.

 

  http://www.amazon.com/The-Secret-Knowledge-Water-Discovering/dp/0316610690

[salubrious]

While much of the information was gathered second hand by the investigator, I think there was no fabrication on the part of the witnesses. There were multiple sightings over a period of days in a localized area and tracks were documented.

 

What this indicates is that if genuine North Dakota is Bigfoot habitat. How do people account for these sightings and tracks in the middle of the plains of North Dakota?

 

North Dakota is actually easier than the desert. While much of it is grassland, there is plenty of cover and wildlife. I live in Minnesota and drive though North Dakota to points beyond several times a year. If you are away from the interstate there are more trees although I hesitate to call it forested, but enough to sustain large deer populations... there's also a lot of water.

[Guest DWA]

North Dakota is not a place sasquatch would have significant problems with, either getting along or remaining unnoticed.  The NAWAC website's "Oklahoma Prairie" podcast relates a suite of compelling evidence from country similar to much of North Dakota:

 

Find it here:  http://woodape.org/index.php/about-bigfoot/articles/220-oklahoma-prairie-photos

Once again, people discount the sheer power of denial in shaping what people see.  See a sasquatch in ND...you saw a person, simple as that.  Kinda big; kinda...interesting...gait; clothing...sorta funny...