georgerm Posted January 13, 2016 Author Posted January 13, 2016 Let's give this another try with fewer errors and derails. Tribal Bigfoot is a good book, and the author spent lots of time on the Klamath River in Northern California. Native Americans lived there for centuries. He interviewed them about their knowledge of BF that still lingers. Some say a small percentage of bigfoots are cantankerous and dangerous. They call them devils. They stay out of their areas. Most animals become devils if harassed enough. The public expected the Department of Interior, the BLM, or the US Forest Service to have warned them about Sasquatch, and it's obvious the public was let down.There needs to be federal disclosure about the reality of bigfoot. A senior federal official needs to come on the TV and explain the facts surrounding bigfoot. "What did you know and when did you know it," will be the question the public should ask. Seems like many citizens don't know and others think its a prank. We on the forum are tiny minority of knowers. My wife was followed by one, and she and her friend had no clue, and no weapon. This ticks me off since people need to be mentally prepared for a rare encounter.
hiflier Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Hello Incorrigible1, Your opinion duly noted. A very gentlemanly way to put it
MIB Posted January 13, 2016 Moderator Posted January 13, 2016 "What did you know and when did you know it," will be the question the public should ask. Well, yes, but you seem to be ignoring part of the picture. Anyone who comes forward is confessing to suppressing information already. If there are consequences for that, the only possible way to avoid them is to continue to suppress information, not to confess publicly. Right? For people in the know, it is a chess game with preservation of career on the line. MIB
Terry Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 If the U.S. govt. was suppressing knowledge regarding bf, hundreds of civil servants would have had to know over the years. Among those employees, many would have quit, retired, been fired or laid off. I don't think that all of those former govt. workers would keep such a secret. We never see ex govt. workers coming forward. I can't see that many people holding back knowledge like that!?! t.
TD-40 Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Terry, this is why I don't do the conspiracy stuff. If bigfoot was acknowedged at the high federal level, there are too many good people out there who would have said something by now. I don't see how they could keep a big secret like that especially for such a long time and keep it known by only a handful of people, especially the US government. I would also expect them to have conducted research on them if they were to have acknowledge them. I'm more inclined to think that most all USFS rangers do not believe and have never seen evidence of such creatures. The scant few who have keep their experience to themselves or within just a small circle. Edited January 13, 2016 by TD-40
hiflier Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Hello TD-40, Terry, this is why I don't do the conspiracy stuff. If bigfoot was acknowedged at the high federal level, there are too many good people out there who would have said something by now. I don't see how they could keep a big secret like that especially for such a long time and keep it known by only a handful of people, especially the US government.... Hmm. I'm not so sure. This was only revealed after about 50 years or so: http://www.nytimes.com/1997/08/03/us/cia-admits-government-lied-about-ufo-sightings.html Sasquatch is tiny potatoes compared to what was going on internationally during the Cold War. I'm not saying there is a Bigfoot cover up but when people do step forward the sort of unspoken point is that there is suppression. But Bigfoot is different in that there isn't a proxy that people are reporting seeing like when the U2 and SR-71 were deemed UFO's. It would mean there is a U.S. government device that is being interpreted as a Bigfoot sighting? Don't think so really but in this day and age it could be beta testing of soldier robots dressed in fur coats Howzat for a stretch?
TD-40 Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 Not sure that is the same thing. Clearly those UFOs were Cold War era crafts developed by the government. If those UFOs were from other galaxies and contained little green men, and the government knew about them and covered them up, then that would be more closely associated with covering up the realities of sasquatch.
Cotter Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 If the U.S. govt. was suppressing knowledge regarding bf, hundreds of civil servants would have had to know over the years. Among those employees, many would have quit, retired, been fired or laid off. I don't think that all of those former govt. workers would keep such a secret. We never see ex govt. workers coming forward. I can't see that many people holding back knowledge like that!?! t. Bob "Action" Jackson, Robert Letterlight, Charles Branson, Rachel Glen, Doug Jenkins, James Twiss...... There's more. But like with any other witnesses, they are dismissed.
SWWASAS Posted January 13, 2016 BFF Patron Posted January 13, 2016 If the U.S. govt. was suppressing knowledge regarding bf, hundreds of civil servants would have had to know over the years. Among those employees, many would have quit, retired, been fired or laid off. I don't think that all of those former govt. workers would keep such a secret. We never see ex govt. workers coming forward. I can't see that many people holding back knowledge like that!?! t. About the only way to get yourself fired from the federal government is blab your mouth off about what goes on inside the government. Whistle blowers get fired all the time. Retired they still want to get a check. There is little reason for anyone that knows about BF to talk about it if they have employee pressures not to talk. Some people on this forum get even get crap from their spouses about BF. Certainly I am not inclined to bring it up in casual conversation even with people I know. What incentive does anyone have to go public with it and be subject to public ridicule? Next time a police officer stops you on a country road tell him you were driving erratically because you just saw a BF. You will be touching your nose and walking the painted line in nothing flat. This contention that government employees cannot know anything because they would blab about it is just not how anything else works. People want to keep their jobs, get their retirement, or get recommendation for their next job if they quit. 1
hiflier Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 (edited) Hello SWWASASQUATCHPROJECT, ..... Next time a police officer stops you on a country road tell him you were driving erratically because you just saw a BF. You will be touching your nose and walking the painted line in nothing flat..... Hopefully it won't go as weird an this did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MXU3J6Qbs Edited January 13, 2016 by hiflier
JDL Posted January 13, 2016 Posted January 13, 2016 So according to our resident skeptics, our government: 1. Has never suppressed information, 2. Never spins information, and 3. Never attempts to influence the public through information management. 1
Faenor Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 No skeptic has said any of that. Its silly to believe that the governments of both the united states, Canada, and possibly Mexico are all holding on to this conspiracy through multiple generations of turnover. People like power and fame which could be achieved through exposing the bigfoot proof and government conspiracy. Bleeding hearts with high minded morals don't care about jobs or money over principles. Some government departments and individuals would have more to gain through funding and power managing bigfoot populations and research. Now the so called believers are claiming people will also somehow loose their pensions as well. I guess its not enough anymore to claim people are getting fired for leaking bigfoot secrets. I'm sure soon the claims will be that people are mysteriously going missing. Anything to keep that belief alive I guess. 1
Bonehead74 Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Some government departments and individuals would have more to gain through funding and power managing bigfoot populations and research. That would really depend on what bigfoot turn out to be, no? 1
southernyahoo Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Anything to keep that belief alive I guess. Well maybe it's a matter of the knowers knowing that other people should and must know, especially the government. I can't say this is legit, but the Forest Service logo appears to be. 1
hiflier Posted January 14, 2016 Posted January 14, 2016 Hello southernyahoo, Here's a link to a short investigation into that particular item: http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/archive.php?ac=t&forumid=124725&date=03-14-2013&t=2360335-1
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