So Why Won't The Habituators Come Forward And Lend Bigfoot Science A Real Hand?

[MIB]

Hmmm ... if I had stuff going on around my house I'd build/buy a substantial extension line for a mic, then put it outside and operate the recorder inside where so I didn't have to go outside to start recording.  

 

Something like this might work:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AB8OMVO?ref_=ams_ad_dp_asin_2

 

MIB

[Guest Crowlogic]

Hmmm ... if I had stuff going on around my house I'd build/buy a substantial extension line for a mic, then put it outside and operate the recorder inside where so I didn't have to go outside to start recording.  

 

Something like this might work:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AB8OMVO?ref_=ams_ad_dp_asin_2

 

MIB

Oh no you wouldn't.  Bigfoot are omnipotent and can sense if you're trying to photograph or record them.  They and read our minds and they know if you're going to hurt them or take advantage of them.  And once they sense that they either rip you apart or leave the area and gee nobody  really wants their hairy smelly friends to run away. 

Edited May 22, 2016 by Crowlogic

[Redbone]

Oh no you wouldn't.  Bigfoot are omnipotent and can sense if you're trying to photograph or record them.  They and read our minds and they know if you're going to hurt them or take advantage of them.  And once they sense that they either rip you apart or leave the area and gee nobody  really wants their hairy smelly friends to run away.

Do you have any proof of these claims you seemingly just stated as fact or are you just mocking people?

Edited May 22, 2016 by Redbone

[ShadowBorn]

 

Hmmm ... if I had stuff going on around my house I'd build/buy a substantial extension line for a mic, then put it outside and operate the recorder inside where so I didn't have to go outside to start recording.  

 

Something like this might work:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AB8OMVO?ref_=ams_ad_dp_asin_2

 

MIB

Oh no you wouldn't.  Bigfoot are omnipotent and can sense if you're trying to photograph or record them.  They and read our minds and they know if you're going to hurt them or take advantage of them.  And once they sense that they either rip you apart or leave the area and gee nobody  really wants their hairy smelly friends to run away. 

 

Mockery like this will not get you very far Crow, your approach is not correct and should be changed if you want to reach the truth. MIB is giving very good advice to Hammer and If it was my advice I would just say to let them be. Hammer has nothing to prove when Hammer has already proven what Hammer knows to be true. Not that difficult to understand yet for some it is. Why is that Crow? Why is so hard to understand what is taking place with these creatures ? Yes, I understand how impossible that it all sounds, yet it happens with no understanding. Can we explain it , No ! But does need to be experienced.

 

So yes I can understand the mockery that comes from you. It is easy to mock some thing that has not been experienced. I can see how you want to bring out the anger in people so that they will talk. But this does not work as a skeptic nor in a debate, this just brings out anger and shuts people down. Somet times it is best to sit back and read what people have to say. We can learn so much more this way from others who may be able to teach us about them. I am out to learn what I can and test what I have learned and this is what maybe you should try some time , rather then blame others for the misinformation that they have given you. This is not our fault, that it has left you with this hole of skeptism. You must learn to go past it Crow.

 

https://youtu.be/oqsxlLU_ebI

[georgerm]

Hmmm ... if I had stuff going on around my house I'd build/buy a substantial extension line for a mic, then put it outside and operate the recorder inside where so I didn't have to go outside to start recording.  

 

Something like this might work:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AB8OMVO?ref_=ams_ad_dp_asin_2

 

MIB

 

 

I would arm my wife with a 357 revolver, so when the house gets slapped, she could fire a warning shot off the porch or out the window. This would keep the bigfoots away since the 357 is super loud. If it's too much gun, then she could shoot the 38 round out of it that kicks less. When in the yard, a nice holster for the pistol and belt would provide some confidence.  

 

That would make quite a recording with slaps, knocks and booms.  

[Guest Crowlogic]

 

Oh no you wouldn't.  Bigfoot are omnipotent and can sense if you're trying to photograph or record them.  They and read our minds and they know if you're going to hurt them or take advantage of them.  And once they sense that they either rip you apart or leave the area and gee nobody  really wants their hairy smelly friends to run away.

Do you have any proof of these claims you seemingly just stated as fact or are you just mocking people?

 

Enjoy.

 

http://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_report.asp?id=3122

http://lisashiel.jacobsvillebooks.com/blog/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-telepathy-and-bigfoot/

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/05/getting-started-with-telepathic-bigfoot.html://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/deseret.htm

http://www.teamsquatchinusa.com/bigfoot-telepathy-mind-speak/

http://www.bigfootbuzz.net/woman-lives-with-sasquatch-in-cave/

[Guest Crowlogic]

 

 

Hmmm ... if I had stuff going on around my house I'd build/buy a substantial extension line for a mic, then put it outside and operate the recorder inside where so I didn't have to go outside to start recording.  

 

Something like this might work:

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AB8OMVO?ref_=ams_ad_dp_asin_2

 

MIB

Oh no you wouldn't.  Bigfoot are omnipotent and can sense if you're trying to photograph or record them.  They and read our minds and they know if you're going to hurt them or take advantage of them.  And once they sense that they either rip you apart or leave the area and gee nobody  really wants their hairy smelly friends to run away. 

 

Mockery like this will not get you very far Crow, your approach is not correct and should be changed if you want to reach the truth. MIB is giving very good advice to Hammer and If it was my advice I would just say to let them be. Hammer has nothing to prove when Hammer has already proven what Hammer knows to be true. Not that difficult to understand yet for some it is. Why is that Crow? Why is so hard to understand what is taking place with these creatures ? Yes, I understand how impossible that it all sounds, yet it happens with no understanding. Can we explain it , No ! But does need to be experienced.

 

So yes I can understand the mockery that comes from you. It is easy to mock some thing that has not been experienced. I can see how you want to bring out the anger in people so that they will talk. But this does not work as a skeptic nor in a debate, this just brings out anger and shuts people down. Somet times it is best to sit back and read what people have to say. We can learn so much more this way from others who may be able to teach us about them. I am out to learn what I can and test what I have learned and this is what maybe you should try some time , rather then blame others for the misinformation that they have given you. This is not our fault, that it has left you with this hole of skeptism. You must learn to go past it Crow.

 

https://youtu.be/oqsxlLU_ebI

 

Now then you say mockery however if you stop and consider how head banging absurd bigfoot mind speak comes across to the outside world then you'll appreciate the tone of my post about it.  Did it ever occur to you and other bigfoot proponents that the fringe elements of bigfootism and their supernatural/metaphysical ramblings are themselves.a mocking of intelligence and rational thought?  

[Guest Cryptic Megafauna]

Most people that talk about mind speak either are speculating, fantasizing, or making it up.

 

I have experienced it though, I just am not sure "who" it was as I did not see anything at the time in my location.

 

Many strange things happen in this universe, mentally unsound people string those occurrences together to try and "prove" something that is not provable and then engage in endless sophistry to obscure the fact they know not of what they speak.

 

Skepticism is healthy, as is being open minded, just not empty headed or gullible.

 

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

 

There is also plenty of BS posing as those more things, as well.

[Redbone]

 

 

Oh no you wouldn't.  Bigfoot are omnipotent and can sense if you're trying to photograph or record them.  They and read our minds and they know if you're going to hurt them or take advantage of them.  And once they sense that they either rip you apart or leave the area and gee nobody  really wants their hairy smelly friends to run away.

Do you have any proof of these claims you seemingly just stated as fact or are you just mocking people?

 

Enjoy.

 

http://www.bfro.net/gdb/show_report.asp?id=3122

http://lisashiel.jacobsvillebooks.com/blog/the-uncomfortable-truth-about-telepathy-and-bigfoot/

http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.com/2012/05/getting-started-with-telepathic-bigfoot.html://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/deseret.htm

http://www.teamsquatchinusa.com/bigfoot-telepathy-mind-speak/

http://www.bigfootbuzz.net/woman-lives-with-sasquatch-in-cave/

 

If I had given you all these links would you call them proof? I don't think you would...

Oh wait... I'll bet you were just showing me the people you are mocking. Thanks for the answer and the interesting reading.

 

The bigfoot evidence link was very interesting!

 

I liked this quote from the Lisa Shiel page.

Quantum physics also seems to allow for precognition, and perhaps even telepathy (or thought transmission), as part of what Einstein called “spooky action at a distance.†Quantum entanglement links particles across vast distances, and has been demonstrated in scientific experiments.

I've heard Rupert Sheldrake speak of such things. He has conducted telepathy experiments with people and animals and had statistically significant positive results.

Here's a link with Sheldrake's answers to critics of his work. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2009/feb/09/psychology-science-morphic-sheldrake

and a quote from that link...

 

 

Science is our best method for exploring what we do not understand. But for some people science has become a religion. They need authority and certainty, and want to believe that the fundamental answers are already known.

 

Scientific fundamentalism serves deep emotional needs, but it is counter-productive for the progress of science itself. It inhibits scientific exploration, gives science a bad name and puts young people off. Science advances through questioning dogmas, by considering new possibilities, and through open-minded enquiry.           (Rupert Sheldrake)

 

[ShadowBorn]

.  Did it ever occur to you and other bigfoot proponents that the fringe elements of bigfootism and their supernatural/metaphysical ramblings are themselves.a mocking of intelligence and rational thought?

See Crow I do not see it this way, I do not see it as a mocking of intelligence like you are suggesting. Nor is it a mocking of rational thought since it takes rational thought to come out with this in the open in the first place.

 

Rational comes from the Latin word rationalis, meaning reasonable or logical. If you're rational, you do things based on logic, as opposed to impulse or whimsy. The original meaning in English was of something endowed with the ability to reason

log·ic

/ˈläjik/

noun

noun: logic

1.

reasoning conducted or assessed according to strict principles of validity.

"experience is a better guide to this than deductive logic"

synonyms: reasoning, line of reasoning, rationale, argument, argumentation

"the logic of their argument"

•a particular system or codification of the principles of proof and inference.

"Aristotelian logic"

•the systematic use of symbolic and mathematical techniques to determine the forms of valid deductive argument.

plural noun: logics

•the quality of being justifiable by reason.

"there's no logic in telling her not to hit people when that's what you're doing"

synonyms: reason, judgment, logical thought, rationality, wisdom, sense, good sense, common sense, sanity; informalhorse sense

"this case appears to defy all logic"

 

•the course of action or line of reasoning suggested or made necessary by.

"if the logic of capital is allowed to determine events"

 

2.

a system or set of principles underlying the arrangements of elements in a computer or electronic device so as to perform a specified task.

I feel that I have full filled this when I started what I started with these creatures. If they are capable of doing what I have said they are, then logic says what I did should be able to be done again. Is this being rational, to be able to experiment and know the truth. How is this this mocking intelligence when it has happened, and all you have to do is try it your self. So there is no mocking of our intelligence, maybe our ego's but surely not our intelligence. 

 

The difficult aspect is trying to explain this and how it works or happens. This is why I truly believe that a body is needed so that we can understand what they are. But to this day not one has been captured or killed, nor has a dead one been collected. If one has been collected it has been collected not by none of us but who knows what other entity. Crow, I know that you are searching for answers and that it is difficult to understand, but  your skeptic view will lead you to the truth. I had to deny everything till it led me to the truth. Then I had to come open with it which led to more ridicule, now I cannot give up. It has been a quest and now I have one task. To convince you. Might be impossible but I see it as a worthy cause, Crow.

[MIB]

Did it ever occur to you and other bigfoot proponents that the fringe elements of bigfootism and their supernatural/metaphysical ramblings are themselves.a mocking of intelligence and rational thought? 

 

Crow -

 

You don't have rational thought or intelligence, you have only your dogma with empty posturing to back it up.   Did it ever occur to you that filtering out inconvenient data merely to support your denialist agenda makes a mockery of **science**?   

 

MIB 

[Incorrigible1]

I was going to post something supporting Crow, but figure the true-believers can easily just read my thoughts on the subject and save lotsa folks time in not reading my reply.

[ShadowBorn]

I was going to post something supporting Crow, but figure the true-believers can easily just read my thoughts on the subject and save lotsa folks time in not reading my reply.

^^ Why not post your thought on the subject, I would like to read them. If it supports Crow then why not post it so that we can all debate it and understand. It seems reasonable right ! I have no problem with what Crow is saying and what he says is sound, since he has not experience what I and others have. This is what is needed a deep sided view of skeptism. It is deserving for such a subject that has lasted for so long.

[Incorrigible1]

 

I was going to post something supporting Crow, but figure the true-believers can easily just read my thoughts on the subject and save lotsa folks time in not reading my reply.

^^ Why not post your thought on the subject, I would like to read them. If it supports Crow then why not post it so that we can all debate it and understand. It seems reasonable right ! I have no problem with what Crow is saying and what he says is sound, since he has not experience what I and others have. This is what is needed a deep sided view of skeptism. It is deserving for such a subject that has lasted for so long.

 

Think real hard, instead.

[Redbone]

I was going to post something supporting Crow, but figure the true-believers can easily just read my thoughts on the subject and save lotsa folks time in not reading my reply.

I'm not real good at this mind reading thing so I could be wrong, but I think I've done it.

You think that badgering, mocking, and labeling people that don't fit your idea of normal will make them stop posting the stuff you don't want to see.

How's that going for you?

Edited May 23, 2016 by Redbone