NatFoot Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, Caenus said: Here they log near campgrounds as a measure of wildfire control. Not much of an impact on squatching, but the wildfires are. Supposedly a recent fire displaced a few groups (according to the local BFRO) and there was quite a bit of activity as the multiple groups started to encroach and carve out their own territory. I started researching in the wrong area for that, but I’ve recently moved my area into the “disputed zone”. I can tell you there seems to be a lot of activity....like first day in the woods activity. After day 1 they are on to you and give you a wide berth. Can you be more specific? What kind of activity are you having and how far back are you going into these areas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, BigTreeWalker said: I know from what I have found there are probably at least seven individuals around Mt St Helens. That's not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caenus Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 54 minutes ago, NatFoot said: Can you be more specific? What kind of activity are you having and how far back are you going into these areas? Ok... Knocks, screams, tree structures, tracks and night harassment. I just recently acquired night vision and thermal gear and have been familiarizing myself with them before I roll out new tactics. How far back back do I go? Well, the Apache Sitgreaves, Tonto and Coconino Forests stretch from the NE edge of Phoenix to North of Flagstaff east into New Mexico and is the worlds largest pinyon tree forest. That in itself is a huge food source btw. There are numerous “wilderness” areas that are off limits to motorized vehicles of any kind. There are also massive 1st people reservations. There are few areas that no one has been to, but many, many areas that people do not go because accessibility is outside of the UTV joyriders comfort zone and most people with 4WD, REAL 4WD, do not go because there is nothing interesting there. That is where I go. Often they are only an hour off-road from a heavily used recreation area. The BF don’t seem to care, in fact they seem to investigate the fringes of these massive dispersed camping areas. There are so many elk and deer in these areas that it is like camping in a zoo enclosure. The Apaches do not deny BF and the Res police investigate those reports as they would any other report. Don’t even ask why the Apache do not publicize their official acceptance...as long as the casinos keep the bank accounts full they don’t need the hassle of ecotourism (total conjecture on my part based on only a handful of familiar Apache and Navajo). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatFoot Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 Appreciate it Caenus! I know a lot of folks aren't all that out there when doing their squatching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTreeWalker Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, hiflier said: That's not enough. No it's not. But look at it this way, those are only the ones I've seen evidence of. As I mentioned I have no idea of the numbers, but I would think as illusive as they are that is just the tip of the iceberg. Some interesting observations there in AZ Caenus! Edited October 25, 2018 by BigTreeWalker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 25, 2018 Admin Share Posted October 25, 2018 Flagstaff Az. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 13 hours ago, hiflier said: One can only hope that Sasquatch can appreciate Bo Diddley, LOL. I have another friend in Lake Tahoe who has a 4 string cigar box guitar that was made as a slide instrument only so high strings and painted on frets. It was built by a guy in Canada who has since passed away. I saw it hanging on the wall and asked if I could try it out. He said yes so I tuned it up, got out my glass slide and played it for about a half hour. My friend said I was the first and only one so far that had played it. Cool instrument I've been known to run a slide up and down my 3 string cigar box and make my didley bo wail a time or two each night. Soothes the soul and prepares me for slumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caenus Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) Mogollon Rim (Only the first photo is mine) Yup...central Arizona. My research area is in the upper right quadrant of the above photo. Most people think this: Which is why I get a lot of eye rolls in the BF community when I talk about the Mogollon Monster. Lol Edited October 25, 2018 by Caenus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caenus Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) lots of rain along the rim. Edited October 25, 2018 by Caenus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatFoot Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, Caenus said: lots of rain along the rim. Definitely. Put me with the group that pictured the desert. But some of those pics look like south/central CO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TritonTr196 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Caenus said: Mogollon Rim (Only the first photo is mine) Yup...central Arizona. My research area is in the upper right quadrant of the above photo. Most people think this: Which is why I get a lot of eye rolls in the BF community when I talk about the Mogollon Monster. Lol I've read about that place many times over the years. These pictures puts the place in a whole new perspective for me. Lot more greenery than I thought would be there. Really nice looking place. I can see why it's got activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 10 hours ago, Doug said: I've been known to run a slide up and down my 3 string cigar box and make my didley bo wail a time or two each night. Soothes the soul and prepares me for slumber. Got that right, Doug. Something about that twangin' slide work that just talks to ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 21 hours ago, starchunk said: More likely as a threat to the timber industry, the weaponizing theory seems far fetched to me. Stalin spent millions on an attempt to weaponize apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 25, 2018 Admin Share Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Cotter said: Stalin spent millions on an attempt to weaponize apes. And it failed right? And I never understood the premise anyhow. Your crossing a human with a chimp....to gain what exactly? The invention of the rifle negates the need for super strength. And humans are hard enough to control in lawless combat conditions, let alone a giant mob of ape men, who would indulge every conceivable primitive impulse that entered their brain. The enemy could just airdrop pallets of bananas into your combat formations and watch as they destroyed themselves competing for the right to be first up to bat. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowBorn Posted October 26, 2018 Moderator Share Posted October 26, 2018 Norseman But what makes you so sure that they are apes . We have no idea what they might be and that is the problem. They exist and this I do know and we are out there hunting them. But where is the proof of a body that proves what they are. We can hunt everything else that is out there except these creatures so what makes them different ? Why are they still undiscovered but still being seen by witnesses and yes the military does show interest in these creatures. It be stupid not to since they have been able to be undiscovered for so long and yet they are able to recon us so well. No there is way more to them then we all think to know and they are not monkeys or apes like some would want us to believe. There is vested interest in them and it has nothing to do with the timber industry. If we can get to there DNA then we would have a key to things un imaginable of what they might be. The uses that can be had of their secrets with in there DNA would be life changing. We have no idea of their life span. So yes the Military would have great interest in them and invest what they could in retrieving one or even two or more for study. If they can get on our guarded bases un seen and out with out being captured or shot and this is just a game to them then yes our military would want this ability. I know that I am not no top brass but from what I have encountered , something did take place that involve the military. It has been bothering me for awhile now in the past two years since they did this woods clearing. This clearing is not normal clearing and look like kill zones. If I could take pictures from the air you would understand. Having black copters come over your house is not cool. Luckly they have stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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