NathanFooter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Squatchy McSquatch said: How were you able to determine (from 120 feet away) that what you allegedly saw was a male [sasquatch]? I did not go back with a long tape, I did go back and walk toe to heel and came out at like 115 to 118 steps ( I don't remember what size shoes I had that day ). The 120 feet is my closest estimation. I was able to see that the creature had male equipment ( general shape and bulge was visible at times both in profile and turning ) besides his physical frame. I could not see details ( there was thicker hair around the area ) but I could see some color and texture difference with the lighting I had at the time. I guess I will be frank, there was something there that contrasted with the hair color and pattern that indicated a protrusion of soft tissue that was dark gray/brownish ( not as dark as the hair ). I honestly can't say much more than this as I was more concerned with where it was looking and moving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980squatch Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, NatFoot said: Great! Thanks. What's strange is that those drawings don't look much like the syskesville monster which looks very human, with short hair, to me. Sure, but add an inch of hair to the middle of the face, and 4 inch hair all over the place on the top and sides, and it would get mighty close. I suspect hair length and color can vary quite a bit with age, region, and even individually- but they would all have hooded noses for instance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanFooter Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, NatFoot said: Is this the Sykesville Monster piece you're referring to @NathanFooter? Yes, the hair was a little longer on top a fair amount so on the sides and back of the head. Hair also crowded up from under the bottom of the cheekbones toward the nose. I am not a great artist but this is a drawing I did a while back from a profile view. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NatFoot Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 Thanks for the replies all. And your drawing is quite good! Them being hunched over when walking doesn't make too much sense to me unless it's a precursor to getting down on all fours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 @ NathanFooter, curious that your drawing shows a mid-tarsal break in the left foot. Is that something you observed? About 5 years ago after I was on the Forum for a few months I did some data mining into John Green's database. The nose issue was what I was trying to nail down to see shape was at all gender related. From what was in the database it seemed that the more Human-like noses were males and the more ape like noses were females. It was a generality that didn't really hold true though. Because after collecting the reports together and seeing what looked like nose/gender distinctions I researched where witnesses reported seeing the creatures in groups. Some of the groups has small creatures mixed in t=with the large and medium sized individuals. I cross referenced nose shape with the reported groups and each group did NOT have a mixture of nose shapes. It was either a group reported with Human like noses or a group with ape-like noses. I came away thinking that possible different nose-shaped creatures didn't mix. It is also probably a wrong conclusion as well but that's what came out of the small sampling that was in the database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbone Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Well since the John Green database was brought up, here are some numbers. Of the reports that mention Nose: 54 Large Flat Nose 23 Small Nose 16 Human Like Nose 1 Prominent nose For reports that mention Face Appearance: 102 Apelike 73 Humanlike 22 Monkeylike 4 Catlike 1 Bearlike 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twist Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 This may be a bit silly but if they had larger nostrils proportionally than we are used to seeing on humans, could the angle of viewing or distance effect that description of hooded or not? Could posture, shoulder position or holding their heads upward may also factor in. Could both descriptions be "right" based on perspective? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted January 30, 2019 Share Posted January 30, 2019 Good point and in some cases that may have been true. But for an ape-like nose I don't think the face could be positioned in a way that would make it look hooded unless it's at a distance looking almost straight down? Side profiles probably come into play as well. IMHO, looking straight on face to face would have the potential for errors in nose descriptions. That and short visual durations, time of day etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted January 31, 2019 SSR Team Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/30/2019 at 7:29 AM, Twist said: This may be a bit silly but if they had larger nostrils proportionally than we are used to seeing on humans, could the angle of viewing or distance effect that description of hooded or not? Could posture, shoulder position or holding their heads upward may also factor in. Could both descriptions be "right" based on perspective? Yeah im with you but I’m just of the opinion that these things could look different to each other and even something as extreme as having completely different noses ? Maybe, humans have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Time Lifter Posted January 31, 2019 Share Posted January 31, 2019 On 1/29/2019 at 6:29 PM, Twist said: This may be a bit silly but if they had larger nostrils proportionally than we are used to seeing on humans, could the angle of viewing or distance effect that description of hooded or not? Could posture, shoulder position or holding their heads upward may also factor in. Could both descriptions be "right" based on perspective? Well, if you're looking up at something considerably taller than you it's going to reduce the appearance of a hooded nose and make it look like it's just nostrils. But, that would only apply if you're very close or it's very tall. Though the creature being on a hill or tree located above your position would again heighten that perception. Good observation imho and not silly at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madison5716 Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) I like this artist. Haven't seen one yet. The blobsquatch in my photo looks similar to this dude, as far as I can tell based on facial structure. Very generally speaking.Very, very generally. More amazing faces here - https://satanfudge.com/sasquatch/ Maybe you guys can take a look and see if anything looks like what you saw? Edited February 1, 2019 by Madison5716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBFr Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 4:52 PM, NatFoot said: Thanks for the replies all. And your drawing is quite good! Them being hunched over when walking doesn't make too much sense to me unless it's a precursor to getting down on all fours. I have a theory on the walking hunched over. A few years ago I was hiking in Rocky Mountain National Park with my wife and two daughters. I was carrying a full backpack stuffed with water bottles that at the beginning of the hike must have weighed 40-50 pounds. We took a break at a waterfall and when I took off the pack I almost fell on my face. I did not realize how far forward I was leaning to adjust for the pack. BFs have huge back and shoulder muscles. My theory is all of this weight has his center of gravity towards his back which forces him to walk hunched forward to balance his center of gravity. Just a thought... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigantor Posted February 1, 2019 Admin Share Posted February 1, 2019 On 1/28/2019 at 4:52 PM, NatFoot said: Them being hunched over when walking doesn't make too much sense to me It makes perfect sense. Wouldn't you be looking where you step if you were barefoot? You can easily test this. Take your shoes off And go for a walk outside. Then let me know if you were watching your every step. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted February 1, 2019 Admin Share Posted February 1, 2019 I used to run on gravel as a kid barefoot. I also built match box car tracks on the county road on my knees for days on end. Scrambling to throw all my cars off the road when a real rig came barreling along. My point being is that your body gets used to being asked to do jncredible things. Calloused pads form and give you protection. I remember reading about a barefoot slave in the 1800's, that he had stepped on a ember by the campfire and didnt know it. He kept smelling something until he realized his own foot was smoldering. Now thats a callous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntster Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 A hunched yet high stepping gait (not to mention occasional four legged crawling) is also quite expected in a thickly forested environment where one is constantly moving both over and under branches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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