Guest MidnightWalkerSE Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Well, whoever shot this female (mother) and her son/daughter, may not answer to this sick society's law but they'll answer to something much more permanent after this life. These are men, women and children with hair. I know that for a fact without all the DNA BS. And they will pay. Oh, it's in the interest of saving them? ********. It's all for money and they'll get what the deserve. I'd hate to be them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MidnightWalkerSE Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 OK, it's time to put a few things to rest. I just spoke to the "bear hunter", who is also my friend. He is beside himself because of all the BS being spread. He's asked me to clarify a few things here on this forum. First of all, he is not a poacher. I repeat, not a poacher. Second, it was bear season and he was hunting in a legal area with a bear tag. Please don't ask me these things again. That's the truth. Third, he has not killed 1000 bears. He's killed 3 in his lifetime. Yes 3, not 1000. It's also very important to note, he never gave Sasquatch a second thought. He was a complete skeptic. Because of his unfamiliarity with the Bigfoot subject he had no idea of what he was looking at through his riffle site. He assumed that it was a very strange looking bear that was standing on it's hind legs. In his mind that's all it could have been, a bear. When the bullet hit its mark, it started to become apparent that it wasn't a bear. It did not drop right there, it ran off. They thought they heard it crash in the brush but did not see it go down. Things started getting very weird at this point. Two smaller creatures appeared from the brush, sometimes on two feet, and sometimes on all fours. In his description they looked like a cross between an ape and a bear. They got very close to him and at one point one positioned itself above him on a outcrop. He shot it out of fear of being attacked. Probably the same thing I would have done in the given circumstance. When I'm in the wilderness I always pack a gun to protect my self from wild, sometimes unpredictable animals. There are a few times I thanked God I had it. This was starting to feel like a nightmare to him and he quickly left trying to wrap his mind around what had just happened. It's very important to note that he doesn't feel good about this incident. As a matter of fact he felt terrible. This was a case of miss-identification plane and simple. At a later date a search was carried out at the site and a piece of flesh was recovered. NOT A BODY, only a small piece of flesh witch was later cut in two pieces, hence the cut line. I'll say it one more time, no body's were found or recovered. It's very unfortunate that this happened, but hopefully some good will come out of it. I'm probably going to have a whole bunch of people mad at me for talking about this, but my first obligation is to the bear hunter. He's my friend and I gave him my word that I'm there for him. He wanted me to convey this message, so take it or leave it, it's the truth. DR Well this may well be true and the guy is probably understandably torn up just like the fine fellow that shot the one in Monster Central. I've heard that he is tormented and rightfully so because his was admittedly pre-meditated. However, I have heard that certain individuals that run certain research organizations had informal contracts out with folks for bodies. In fact, I have a pic of someone very famous (for his footage) sporting a snipers rifle at a certain research expedition outing in mid 2000's (not long ago). It would be ashamed if your buddy had that gentlemans agreement with anyone. If not, I guess he needs to seek forgiveness (not having done anything wrong with premeditated intentions) and turn around and speak out against the killing of them. That would be a nice gesture if he's genuine about the mistaken identity. I won't judge the guy either way. Not my place. There's someone else that will do that later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 You know everybody on this forum wants clarity. I just spilled my guts about this. I'm not trying to stir things up, I was acting for my friend who was tired of all the lies being spread. He made an awful mistake and he's sorry it happened. That's the truth. Can't fix it but we can learn from it. Everything I've stated is indeed the truth. Silver fox, please leave his name out of it. Hounding him won't change anything. And for the record, we have never submitted anything to the Erickson Project. Our samples are submitted to Melba and Melba alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MidnightWalkerSE Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 You know everybody on this forum wants clarity. I just spilled my guts about this. I'm not trying to stir things up, I was acting for my friend who was tired of all the lies being spread. He made an awful mistake and he's sorry it happened. That's the truth. Can't fix it but we can learn from it. Everything I've stated is indeed the truth. Silver fox, please leave his name out of it. Hounding him won't change anything. And for the record, we have never submitted anything to the Erickson Project. Our samples are submitted to Melba and Melba alone. I'd agree that we leave Derek and his buddy alone. However, Derek it would be good for the peace within him to speak out against it. He may have made a mistake but he can keep others from making that same mistake and taking the life of one of these innocent beings. How would any of us like people with sniper rifles aiming at our parents or siblings where we can't even walk around our home? Derek's always been straight up person and I believe him. I'd just recommend that when the guy is ready to talk that he speak out against this stuff. If he did it by accident, he can seek one source for peace and then do the right thing. I have no more comments for Derek and I think that we should leave him and his friend alone. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Bass Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Does anybody really expect this guy to come out and say "I'm sorry, I shot Bigfoot" when no ones believes they exist to begin with? He might as well just admit he was abducted by space aliens from Mars, he probably get the same reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Elisi Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Does anybody really expect this guy to come out and say "I'm sorry, I shot Bigfoot" when no ones believes they exist to begin with? He might as well just admit he was abducted by space aliens from Mars, he probably get the same reaction. Actually Ronnie many people believe in Bigfoot. 1000s of sightngs and many many people seeing them regularly speaks to that. Yes many still don't believe they exist and I understand that also. Once the proof comes to light the repercussions of this story will be more than a lot can realize at this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Thanks Alex. It's been our position at the Olympic Project to push for species verification and then push to get laws put in place for protection. I never want to see anything like this happen again. If species verification happens that's the first thing we're going to do. I have the utmost respect for these beings and in my opinion laws need to be put in place. That's been our position from the beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopelyrics Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Very interesting topic. Derek - I fully understand you want to protect your friend. That's the right thing to do. But do you believe him when he says he shot a Bigfoot (two Bigfoot)? Or do you think he could be pulling your - and everyone else's - leg? Best regards, Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Bass Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Actually Ronnie many people believe in Bigfoot. 1000s of sightngs and many many people seeing them regularly speaks to that. Yes many still don't believe they exist and I understand that also. Once the proof comes to light the repercussions of this story will be more than a lot can realize at this time. You are missing my point and with all due respect I can't believe I have to explain this, but until Bigfoot is a recognized species no one is going to come out and admit something that will make them look like ***** to the general public and tarnish their reputation. Until Bigfoot is universally accepted as a fact of science I don't expect him to say a **** thing in public such as I shot Bigfoot, nor would I blame him for not wanting too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thepattywagon Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 "The guy stopped his truck, jumped out, and shot the Bigfoot with a 25.06. He shot her again through the side of her chest, piercing her lungs. The Bigfoot fell down dead. (RL: The hunter says the Bigfoot took off into the brush, but he heard her crash down soon afterward. The hunter shot her because he thought she was a bear standing upright)." Question; If the 'hunter' was so afraid of the creature, why didn't he stay in the truck? If I was afraid of being attacked by something big and hairy waving its arms at me, the last thing I'd do is exit my vehicle. But that's just me. The alleged scenario reminds me of a bad horror movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Lee, I know he's telling the truth. Why would he or I bring this down on ourselves. Why would he set himself up for all the bashing. None of us here are seeking attention, fame or fortune, just the truth. I've been 100% truthful on this forum. If you knew me you'd understand I'm a man of integrity. The Bigfoot world has a lot of BS in it, but you wont be getting any BS from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Pattywagon, I stated before that there were inaccuracy's in the blog post. that's why I came forward and told the story accurately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dopelyrics Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Hey Derek, please don't think I'm insinuating that you or your friend may be lying. That's not what I meant at all. It's a fascinating and some might say fantastical story. Sometimes people do tell fibs for many reasons, and sometimes those fibs can get out of hand. I once knew someone who told everyone he had cancer. He didn't and needless to say people were furious with him. It was a cry for help, attention seeking - call it what you will. I am not saying for one moment that your friend is doing this, but people can lie. I was interested to get your opinion on whether you thought he could be lying, whether you saw or felt something that indicated this. But if you say not, that's good enough for me. Thanks for the reply. Best. Lee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 You do not want to overlook this: http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/6520-update-erickson-project-news-bigfoot-dna-project-using-two-dead-bigfoot-bodies-for-samples/ Admin- can we merge these two? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 There is one more thing I'd like to clear up on this forum. We are not part of the Erickson Project. We seem to get blended with them on a regular basis. He's submitted stuff to the DNA study, and we've submitted samples to the study. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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