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[Rod]

Hey guys- Please see the link below (posted by the Admin) with an update/clarification on this story.

I believe a lot of folks might be missing it because I'm the only one who commented on it.

You do not want to overlook this:

http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/6520-update-erickson-project-news-bigfoot-dna-project-using-two-dead-bigfoot-bodies-for-samples/

Admin- can we merge these two? Thank you.

[Guest]

First of all, I didn't spread the story all over the internet, silverfox did, very inaccurately I might add. That's the only reason we spoke up, to try and cut through the BS. And he's not a famous hunter, that's ken the guy who's word is crap and can't keep his mouth shut. Everyone always has a better idea how things should be handled. It's a rotten situation but some good can come out of it.

Thats not fair. SilverFox has a Blog an seemingly quiet good interview partners. If someone gives an interview for a public site, radio, or what ever, he is responsible for what he says!

The guy who contact the media is the problem not the media itself!

[Guest]

Edited June 28, 2011 by Data

[Guest]

Yeh i didnt think of it like that Saskeptic and probably never would have. I never thought the idea of population coontrol would be a good one but you bring up good points. But arent we as a species guilty of exactly the same things as the snow goose would you condone in someone lowering our numbers.

And to Cervelo I will be hugging a tree 2morow to see if it is a great as you say

This is waaaaay off topic & another thread should be created to discuss it, most likely on another forum as well, but here goes: Unlike the snowgoose and all other animals, we can "make" our own food by planting crops, raising livestock, and building Walmarts. Also, across much of the globe, we are the only predators left in sufficient numbers to keep animal populations in check. Sure some of that reason is because of predator eradication by humans, but most of that was for survival and protection of livestock, except for some overtrapping due to the fur trade prior to regulation. You can thank hunters for hunting and conservation laws, agencies, and revenue. No other group donates more time and money to wildlife conservation, and no other group reports more violators than the hunters, trappers, and fishermen themselves.

Now, back to the blockbuster news about the Erickson Project......

[Guest vilnoori]

Hear, hear, Surveyor. I think it is important to keep hunting skills--and the more challenging, the better--in our cultural knowledge in case supermarkets and the infrastructure that creates them someday are no more. That is why I took up hunting in the first place. It is because I have personally had a bear in my bow sights and passed it up because it looked too young that I can comment on the skill of this hunter. But then I was aiming from a tree stand, not from beside a truck on a road, I guess.

Though I agree if the story is true we will finally have what we have long awaited. And since I do lean to the theory of sasquatches, if they exist, being an archaic or hybrid form of human it really would be due to a tragic act, essentially manslaughter for the mother, and murder for the child--though I suppose there might be some kind of case made for self-defense in the case of the child, depending on its' strength and physique. Maybe an 80 pound sasquatch kid would have the capability to be lethally dangerous, depending on how strong they are. I know chimps are much smaller than humans and they definitely can do a lot of damage to someone and are dangerous creatures. It is possible that the human muscular twitch delay which makes us less strong than most animals of comparable physique and size might have been an adaptation for endurance running in the African savanna, something perhaps not developed in non-African hominins. Accounts certainly support the idea that sasquatches are extremely strong, and can power themselves up trees and cliffs, wrench down and twist fairly large saplings, etc.

[Guest]

Data, I see your point. Silverfox was at the mercy of the interviewee. Frustrating none the less. Thanks. DR

[Guest Silver Fox]

Data, I see your point. Silverfox was at the mercy of the interviewee. Frustrating none the less. Thanks. DR

Derek, references to poaching were removed. The subject had heard a few people who were accusing the bear hunter of poaching, but he could not verify it personally. I did some research and it appears that bear season was definitely open in California at that time. So there's no evidence for that charge.

[Doc Holliday]

Joey,

If I were you I'd go hug a tree! Its a great feeling and Bigfoot will see your a great person! I love animals to especially the tasty ones!

cervelo,. yep, that's why they're made out of such delicious ingredients ..........like meat.

IMO too many folks grow up thinking real life is like "bambi". it isn't.

now if these folks really have 2 Bf bodies and/or all this evidence time will tell.

either theyre getting it all in place, or its another build up to nothing..........again.

maybe this time it wont be a frozen suit like those dudes in GA.maybe not, idk.

[Guest Silver Fox]

Oh and Bear Hunter didn't shoot 1000 bears. I screwed up the interview on that one. I didn't tape record the interview. It was on the phone and I just wrote it up from memory. In a conversation about bear hunting, he told me, "I've [past tense verb] 1000 bears." Speaking quickly, in a casual conversation. I misheard it as "I've shot 1000 bears." He actually used a different past tense verb. Trust me, he has interacted very up close and personal with 1000 bears, but he didn't kill them all.

He may well have killed 100's of bears though. He is an avid bear hunter, and he used to be an outfitter and guide.

Edited June 29, 2011 by Silver Fox

[JDL]

I don't necessarily agree with that.

If the DNA we get out of this is human, or close enough we can't declare it an animal, then people will be comitting homicide, and they better hope there is no proof of that. If the DNA proves there is something else out there then it will be protected offiicially. No need for more specimens.

Let me clarify. I've stood 35 feet from one in broad daylight where the only thing between us was low sagebrush. For 45 seconds we stared directly at each other. To me, they are human. I don't see how anyone who recognizes what they're shooting at could do so for any reason other than self defense. That said, I think there will be a lag between people realizing that they actually exist and the passage of legislation that will protect them, no matter what the DNA says. Some will point to how closely the DNA matches our own and say they're legally human. Others will point to the variance, no matter how small, and use that to argue that they aren't. It will be relatively easy to give them protection as a species. It will be harder to broaden the definition of homicide from the killing of humans to the killing of hominids.

[southernyahoo]

Maybe we should visit the definition of homocide. For more clarity. Aside from that though, I think Sas will remain as elusive as before, and a poachers patience will wear thin pretty quick. I know some people who would take a Game Wardens job to make sure our freinds are safe, with unemployment being what it is right now.

[Guest Bigfoothunter]

Let me clarify. I've stood 35 feet from one in broad daylight where the only thing between us was low sagebrush. For 45 seconds we stared directly at each other. To me, they are human. I don't see how anyone who recognizes what they're shooting at could do so for any reason other than self defense. That said, I think there will be a lag between people realizing that they actually exist and the passage of legislation that will protect them, no matter what the DNA says. Some will point to how closely the DNA matches our own and say they're legally human. Others will point to the variance, no matter how small, and use that to argue that they aren't. It will be relatively easy to give them protection as a species. It will be harder to broaden the definition of homicide from the killing of humans to the killing of hominids.

The Sasquatch is said to have eye shine like so many other nocturnal animals. Krantz and Meldrum independently told me that there is no evidence that humans ever had nocturnal vision.

[Guest]

I have a few questions for Derek and Rich regarding all of the supposed Melba Ketchum DNA species verification -

Erickson is coming out with the documentary "Sasquatch the Quest" and the Original-6 has the documentary "Thermal Hit - The Oklahoma Primate Project" both supposedly waiting on the peer review results before releasing their evidence; What is the Olympic Project planning for getting the word out and sharing the story of their involvement in the discovery as well as the fascinating hunter, shooter, flesh recovery account?

I certainly hope you are bringing HD video cameras with you when you're out retrieving BF flesh and hair samples for what could be the most ground breaking news story in history only second to Extraterrestrials landing on the White House lawn or Red Square.

And one word of advice, I hope you guys checked the hunter out thoroughly before getting on board with the story. I have one word to say - "Enoch". What a train wreck that story turned out to be and I would hate to see a good team and project such as the OP get dragged through the mud over a fantastic account that was not verified properly.

Can either of you say if there will be a press conference anytime in the next 60-90 days?

Thank you in advance.

[Guest MidnightWalkerSE]

Let me clarify. I've stood 35 feet from one in broad daylight where the only thing between us was low sagebrush. For 45 seconds we stared directly at each other. To me, they are human. I don't see how anyone who recognizes what they're shooting at could do so for any reason other than self defense. That said, I think there will be a lag between people realizing that they actually exist and the passage of legislation that will protect them, no matter what the DNA says. Some will point to how closely the DNA matches our own and say they're legally human. Others will point to the variance, no matter how small, and use that to argue that they aren't. It will be relatively easy to give them protection as a species. It will be harder to broaden the definition of homicide from the killing of humans to the killing of hominids.

I've said it before and the native americans many years before us...they are our brothers. They just live an entirely different life but act entire human and one hell of a lot more humane than many of us. JDL, fortunately you stared in their eyes and soul and not at their skins or appearance. Here's another example of a pro-kill person seeing some sas act like humans yet he let those pro-kill people talk him into these being nothing but mindless monkeys. People need to watch Remember the Titans for a little parallel on this situation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24Q1iPR6je4&feature=player_embedded

[Guest RioBravo]

Let me clarify. I've stood 35 feet from one in broad daylight where the only thing between us was low sagebrush. For 45 seconds we stared directly at each other. To me, they are human. I don't see how anyone who recognizes what they're shooting at could do so for any reason other than self defense. That said, I think there will be a lag between people realizing that they actually exist and the passage of legislation that will protect them, no matter what the DNA says. Some will point to how closely the DNA matches our own and say they're legally human. Others will point to the variance, no matter how small, and use that to argue that they aren't. It will be relatively easy to give them protection as a species. It will be harder to broaden the definition of homicide from the killing of humans to the killing of hominids.

How intelligent do the eyes appear next to the other great apes?