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[Guest]

I read this article already on Cryptomundo.

Except they cut some of it out??

Crazy stuff like this makes us look like our own worst enemy.

[MagniAesir]

Wow this is amazing. Seems like the US govenment probably have known about BF for a long time. There is jus too much money to be lost if it goes public. Why shoot the chilid aswell? he coulda fired some warning shots. What a horrible guy. I mean the one that survived if he ever sees a human again he jus prolly gonna derstroy them. I hate hunters, I have zero respect for them. The only ones i can tolerate are the tribesmen who hunt with bow and arrows. But these guys with their big guns are soooo lame.

As a hunter I am glad to say I don't give a rat's behind about your opinion of us.

Seeing as you are from London I bet you don't know the first thing about hunting or hunters

[Guest]

Polypodium, I'm dancing near the NDA now but I will answer what I can without violating it. I can assure you that I'm not simply taking someone at their word. I take my research very seriously, and verification was top priority in this case. The Olympic Project is a extremely committed group of individuals. We take nothing at face value. I've exhausted myself doing my level best to verify this story, and in process I've become good friends with the bear hunter. Everyone on this forum has made mistakes in their life. No one's clean. The bear hunter has come face to face with what went down and believe me he's done some hard time over it. I've made more mistakes in my life than I can count and I freely admit that. Look into your soul and ask if there's anything you'd undo. We all have a list. I don't mean to get philosophical but this is a deep subject, and trust me, we've looked at all angles. So to answer your question, yes.

As far as the press conference goes, yes we will be there. Please understand, the lions share of our submitted samples have nothing to do with this occurrence.

I'd love to say when I think the press conference will be but I'm sure I'd be wrong. The last thing anybody in the Olympic Project wants to do is to put-forth miss-information. I will say that it should be soon, at least I hope it's soon. I'm as tired of waiting as everybody else, but I do understand why it's taking so long.

[Guest Chewie]

So there's someone with a BF body in the fridge and everybody is asking for a sample of it to a DNA study because why?

Sorry, but I don't see the logic behind, "Hmm, how can I prove to the world bigfoot really exists? I know this guy who has 2 bigfoot corpses laying in his fridge but no one is gonna believe that... I GOT IT! Let's do a DNA study." Why not show the world the bodies? Unless, they are using that $3 mil they've already poured in to the study to clone an army of BFs to take over the world.

[gigantor]

So to answer your question, yes.

As far as the press conference goes, yes we will be there. Please understand, the lions share of our submitted samples have nothing to do with this occurrence.

I recommend you guys don't have a press conference. You'll just become a target and bear the brunt of the attacks that will surely come...

[georgerm]

The bear hunter has come face to face with what went down and believe me he's done some hard time over it.

Important parts to the story have been left out.

What did the hunter say happened to the young one?

Did he recover the body?

How hard did they look for the big one?

Could the decomposed body of the large BF still be found?

[BobZenor]

So there's someone with a BF body in the fridge and everybody is asking for a sample of it to a DNA study because why?

Sorry, but I don't see the logic behind, "Hmm, how can I prove to the world bigfoot really exists? I know this guy who has 2 bigfoot corpses laying in his fridge but no one is gonna believe that... I GOT IT! Let's do a DNA study." Why not show the world the bodies? Unless, they are using that $3 mil they've already poured in to the study to clone an army of BFs to take over the world.

It sounds like you missed a few relevant posts. I did the same thing until someone said something that made no sense. The OP is pretty much irrelevant since someone apparently much closer to the story corrected it.

Edited June 29, 2011 by BobZenor

[Guest Chewie]

It sounds like you missed a few relevant posts. I did the same thing until someone said something that made no sense. The OP is pretty much irrelevant since someone apparently much closer to the story corrected it.

Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like there's a lot of he said, she said going on. So if there is no BF bodies where's all the DNA coming from? I don't see small pieces of flesh lasting more than a day out in the woods. Animals and even insects would eat it right up.

[Guest BFSleuth]

Thanks for the clarification. It sounds like there's a lot of he said, she said going on. So if there is no BF bodies where's all the DNA coming from? I don't see small pieces of flesh lasting more than a day out in the woods. Animals and even insects would eat it right up.

I believe this was in November, in the mountains and the temperature was pretty cold. I'd imagine that bodies or body parts would freeze up pretty well at that time of year. If it was in the heat of summer then you are right, the body would decompose and be consumed by maggots et al quickly.

[Guest Chewie]

I believe this was in November, in the mountains and the temperature was pretty cold. I'd imagine that bodies or body parts would freeze up pretty well at that time of year. If it was in the heat of summer then you are right, the body would decompose and be consumed by maggots et al quickly.

The Olympic Project says they went back to the site over two weeks later and found a bit of flesh on the ground, left over from the shooting. They used this bit of flesh to slice up and submit to the DNA project.

If it was attached to a bigger piece of bone left over by scavengers or if it was covered by snow, then maybe... If it was a small piece that flesh ripped off cause of the shot blast, I'm still not so sure.

[dopelyrics]

Hi there,

Honestly, if these creatures/people really do exist - I don't know but I hope they do - should they not just be left in peace? People are arguing already about what is best for them, should they/should they not be killed, should we capture one alive etc'. I think it's a real shame. It seems they have been doing very well for hundreds/thousands of years on their own, avoiding us as much as possible. And do we have a divine right to go and mess things up for them? They don't need species verification. They don't need to be captured alive to be studied. They don't need to have their DNA taken. It seems we need them more than they need us.

Why do people want to prove they exist? I don't know. The money? The fame? A Nobel prize? Or simply to say, "I told you so"?

The interesting thing about this subject is the whole mystery of it all.

Still, I can't wait to see the videos from the Erickson Project

Best,

Lee

[Incorrigible1]

Interview was done over the phone with no tape recorder. Then the gist of it was transcribed into copy, so it's not his exact words, right.

In addition, the interviewee is given a copy of the interview and is allowed to change any words or phrases that they do not like.

Don't have a tape recorder for my phone, is the main thing. Another thing is it ends up being so time consuming. This interview stretched for 2 1/2 hours! I would have to listen through 2.5 hours of tape, and then go back over it again and again to get the words just right. And it's usually just phrasing anyway. Further, you have to do a major edit on the subject's words for space and readability limitations, because people tend to beat around the bush a lot and say umm, uhhh, etc. So the subject gets a huge rewrite anyway. Why waste all my time on that? I'm not even getting paid to do this.

Problem with my way is yeah, subject ends up sounding like me.

Not really. Subject gets a copy of the interview and gets to rewrite anything they want to in there for whatever reason. They don't think they were quoted right, they don't like they way it sounds, I'm putting words into their mouth, or they just flat out want certain stuff removed.

And I do along with all of those requests. Sometimes the interviews get a couple of rewrites with all of the subject's changes.

As long as it goes back to the subject and comes back one way or the other, make changes and changes are made, or don't, either way, the finished product is one in which the subject is satisfied that they are not being misquoted in any way whatsoever, which is what the credibility is all about anyway.

Most journalists don't do that, but I make a special effort to do that.

Oh and Bear Hunter didn't shoot 1000 bears. I screwed up the interview on that one. I didn't tape record the interview. It was on the phone and I just wrote it up from memory. In a conversation about bear hunting, he told me, "I've [past tense verb] 1000 bears." Speaking quickly, in a casual conversation. I misheard it as "I've shot 1000 bears." He actually used a different past tense verb. Trust me, he has interacted very up close and personal with 1000 bears, but he didn't kill them all.

He may well have killed 100's of bears though. He is an avid bear hunter, and he used to be an outfitter and guide.

Your subject was evidently perfectly aware of the "killed 1000 bears" phrase. Or was he? You state "the interviewee is given a copy of the interview and is allowed to change any words or phrases that they do not like."

Frankly, I don't know how much has been incorrectly reported, sensationalized, or irresponsibly made up. A transcript would have been golden.

[Guest Silver Fox]

Your subject was evidently perfectly aware of the "killed 1000 bears" phrase. Or was he? You state "the interviewee is given a copy of the interview and is allowed to change any words or phrases that they do not like."

Frankly, I don't know how much has been incorrectly reported, sensationalized, or irresponsibly made up. A transcript would have been golden.

Subject gets a copy and gets to fix anything wrong, so there can be no making up anything or misquoting.

He fixed the bad quote 31 hours after publication. I sent a copy quickly, but he delayed in getting back to me.

Sometimes I publish first before the interviewee gets back to me with corrections. I get tired of waiting around for them, as they tend to delay, and I'm impatient. So it ends up getting edits after publication.

In the final version, nobody gets misquoted or anything like that because they get edit control.

The fact is pretty meaningless as far as the meat of the story goes anyway. Who cares how many bears the guy says he shot? 1000? 200? What difference does it make? It's a tangential issue, and it's ancillary to the main theme of the interview, which is the story about the 2 dead BF's.

Edited June 29, 2011 by Silver Fox

[JDL]

The Sasquatch is said to have eye shine like so many other nocturnal animals. Krantz and Meldrum independently told me that there is no evidence that humans ever had nocturnal vision.

I'm not an expert on this, but I do know that mutations occur, and that beneficial mutations tend to propagate into the species. I think we can also all agree that even though Sasquatch may be nearly human, they are still a different species. Lack of evidence that we have ever had nocturnal vision does not preclude the possibility that a closely related species does have nocturnal vision.

An example of a mutation from my personal life. My oldest son has always had palms that perspire. Until recently I had looked at this as simply an unfortunate medical condition (hyperhidrosis) that might require some form of treatment in the future. Now, at the age of fifteen, he has revealed to me that he has some conscious control over this. The perspiration autonomically occurs when he touches surfaces with certain textures. But beyond that, he demonstrated to me that he can cause his palms to perspire by simply thinking about touching certain surfaces. By thinking of touching another surface he can cause them to stop perspiring. The surfaces that cause his palms to perspire are generally those that are easier to grip when his palms are slightly moist. He equated the conscious control of the palm perspiration to the process of causing oneself to salivate by thinking about a particular type of food - such as a lemon. Obviously, this freaked me out at first, but he seems to view it as beneficial and it does not bother him, so I've accepted it for what it is.

And no, he can't climb walls. It does help his golf grip, though, and I imagine that it would help to grasp bark if he chose to climb a tree, so maybe it is some sort of throwback characteristic.

Anyway, with regard to squatch, we aren't going to have a full understanding of their abilities until we can study live individuals under favorable conditions.

Edited June 29, 2011 by JDL

[JDL]

How intelligent do the eyes appear next to the other great apes?

As intelligent as any human's. As I was looking into his eyes searching for a sign about what he was going to do next, I could tell he was doing exactly the same thing in return.