Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 But arent we as a species guilty of exactly the same things as the snow goose There is no greater scourge on this planet than the industry of men. (We're even the reason for the population increase in Snow Geese.) would you condone in someone lowering our numbers. Absolutely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) There is no greater scourge on this planet than the industry of men. (We're even the reason for the population increase in Snow Geese.) would you condone in someone lowering our numbers. Absolutely! Really??? Even if your family was first on the "Lowering List"? (For the good of the planet of course!) Or is your stance more of an abstract approval of environmental eugenics? edited due to quote not displaying correctly . Edited June 29, 2011 by John T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RioBravo Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Really??? Even if your family was first on the "Lowering List"? (For the good of the planet of course!) Or is your stance more of an abstract approval of environmental eugenics? edited due to quote not displaying correctly . Whoa, slow down! I think he's talking about contraceptives, not ethnic cleansing. Edited June 29, 2011 by RioBravo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 And this has something to do with the topic of this thread in what way? My head is going to explode, and at this point, I may welcome the relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Reading links must be a lost art. I have applied the principle of ZPG to my own family: Mrs. Saskpetic and I consciously stopped at 2 little Saskepticlings. By merely replacing ourselves in the breeding population, we have not contributed to population growth. The Zero Population Growth movement concerns itself simply with issues of contraception and family planning; we neither celebrate nor condone natural disasters, epidemics, or genocide. Now back to your regularly scheduled on-topic posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Reading links must be a lost art. I have applied the principle of ZPG to my own family: Mrs. Saskpetic and I consciously stopped at 2 little Saskepticlings. By merely replacing ourselves in the breeding population, we have not contributed to population growth. The Zero Population Growth movement concerns itself simply with issues of contraception and family planning; we neither celebrate nor condone natural disasters, epidemics, or genocide. Now back to your regularly scheduled on-topic posts. Agreed and back to the topic. Can someone answer some questions that I didn't see answers for in the interview and our discussion. What did the "hunter" say happened to the young one? Did he recover the body? How hard did they look for the big one? Could the decomposed body of the large BF still be found? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Fox Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Agreed and back to the topic. Can someone answer some questions that I didn't see answers for in the interview and our discussion. What did the "hunter" say happened to the young one? Did he recover the body? How hard did they look for the big one? Could the decomposed body of the large BF still be found? The word is that the other juvenile survived the shooting incident. Whether it survived the winter is not known. Hunter claims he did not recover either body. Left them in the field. Can't answer the other two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 The word is that the other juvenile survived the shooting incident. Whether it survived the winter is not known. Hunter claims he did not recover either body. Left them in the field. Can't answer the other two. ........thanks for the replies. Maybe the someone can post a google earth map showing where the incident occured. From there, local Bigfooters can then go search the area well. There is a chance that within a mile of the incident, a body may exist with a complete skeleton. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Fox Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 ........thanks for the replies. Maybe the someone can post a google earth map showing where the incident occured. From there, local Bigfooters can then go search the area well. There is a chance that within a mile of the incident, a body may exist with a complete skeleton. What do you think? It's possible, but it's a fairly large area, and it would be hard to pin down exactly where it occurred. Whether a skeleton could be found or not would depend on whether or not the bodies were left in the field or not. I'm not so sure of that right now. Also, the dead BF's, if they were left out there, may well have been buried by other BF's. I can map the location for you though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RioBravo Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 The word is that the other juvenile survived the shooting incident. Whether it survived the winter is not known. Hunter claims he did not recover either body. Left them in the field. Can't answer the other two. Derekfoot said the hunter didn't kill either of the bigfoot he shot at, only that he shot them, and later recovered a piece of flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Killed over a 1000 bear in his lifetime? Wow if the guy is 100 that's 10 bear a year from birth very impressive! What in God's Name does anyone do with 1000 dead bears? Did he harvest the meat, or just why did he do this killing? That's a lot of dead bears. Did the bear population need to be thinned out? I'm not a hunter so I don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Fox Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Derekfoot said the hunter didn't kill either of the bigfoot he shot at, only that he shot them, and later recovered a piece of flesh. I know, but I don't believe the hunter. I think he killed both BF's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 What in God's Name does anyone do with 1000 dead bears? Did he harvest the meat, or just why did he do this killing? That's a lot of dead bears. Did the bear population need to be thinned out? I'm not a hunter so I don't understand. Post #190 should explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BartloJays Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 What in God's Name does anyone do with 1000 dead bears? Did he harvest the meat, or just why did he do this killing? That's a lot of dead bears. Did the bear population need to be thinned out? What are you living under a rock SweetSusiq, make ravioli's out of them All joking aside, the CA black bear population has quadrupled the last 25 yrs thanks to limited take limits, State Mgt etc... & stands at between 37-40,000 with majority in the NW portion of state followed by the Sierras (which encompass much of the state north to south).The current annual take is about 1700, but there's been a recent push to increase that amount as there's supposedly been a expected steady increase in private property damage with the population escalation. There's so many bears in NorCal that sometimes when I'm out in the field, I can't walk 5 ft without seeing obvious bear sign; Hence, the "lack of food argument" is laughable in our state when you consider 40k bears are thriving (many coastal don't even go into dormancy because of resource abundance) and they don't even predate on the abundant ungulate population (adult deer too fast)...sticking with a predominant herbivorous & insect diet mixed in with a little opportunistic scavenging. Bottom line is the "1000 bears" is ridiculously overestimated no matter what states we're talking about and it's pretty irrelevant.....especially when you consider what was claimed in part two of Silverfox's interview imo. On the other end, Randles' is a good friend of mine and someone who I have a lot of respect for in this field. I'm pretty confident in what he's been willing to share but of course will fully believe it when I see it. The no BS person I know him to be, would logically say the same thing if the situation was reversed. Wishing the OP, who's loaded with great people and friends, nothing but the best to drive it home & kick the door open!!!....of course when proper diligence is completed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 (edited) Derek - When I asked you this: "Do you know of someone who has one or more Sasquatch bodies?" You answered: "we do not know anybody that possesses or has ever possessed a Bigfoot body, or body's. God as my witness, that's the truth. Take it or leave it. I'd take a lie detector test today!" Fair enough - what you said was true. I guess it was my error that I took that to mean the shooting story was not true. I really hate to have to be so specific in my questions or maybe so general, that the truth comes out the first time, instead of a technically true answer, but still not the whole story. I realize that the people involved in the Erickson Project are not giving the research community any updates on the project because they don't care about the research community. This includes Melba Ketchum. Maybe they even don't like the researchers, I don't know. But they have no interest in keeping us informed of the progress or expected date of release, even though they certainly could. I have finally come to the realization that this is because they do not want to. That they do not want to because they do not respect us enough to care what we know - or don't know for that matter. But I know that you are not part of them (NDA notwithstanding). I am just asking some questions because I care so much about this topic and this incident, and I know that you do, too. I hope you choose to answer, because my anticipation regarding the Erickson Project and the DNA analysis is beginning to turn into aggravation, and I really don't want that to happen. So here goes: 1. To the best of your knowledge, were the two Sasquatch that were shot actually killed? Was there a verification of them dying, or did they run away and were not recovered or confirmed dead? 2. Did the tissue sample or samples come from a found piece of material, or did it come from a larger part of a body, or complete body? Was the sample or samples cut from a larger section of a Sasquatch or Sasquatches? 3. Did you or anyone associated with you see either of the bodies (or large body part), and if so, was the body or bodies (or large body part) documented with either photos or video? Thanks Derek, I hope you answer. Edited June 29, 2011 by Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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