Guest tracker Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 No one is going to believe anything they see on tv maybe not even in a tv doc.? jmo tracker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 If I had small children watching this show with me, I would make sure they knew it was just "pretend" and not real. Man oh man that struck me funny...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest billgreen2010 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 hey everyone tonight finding bigfoot nc bigfoot segment was intence heated exciting im watching it again at 11pm eastern i give this new segment A+++ 1/2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wudewasa Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Ok, This episode had a quite a few laughs, and props to Bobo, Cliff and Renae for presenting themselves in a professional demeanor and schooling their "leader" on how to work as a team. Renae, good job with observation skills on the videos and for explaining the deer carcass as something besides a bigfoot kill. Anyone else notice how neurotic MM gets when he is questioned and/or disagreed with? Pressure brings out what's there! I'll wait to comment more after MM defends himself and blames his behavior on the Discovery Network's editing skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yeti1974 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 MM comes off once again as the iron-fisted, cult of personality, "whether you like it or not" leader tonight. He'd make a great Democrat (har har). But I'll jump off the "Bash Moneymaker" train to say that I actually agreed with what he did in trying to run after the potential Bigfoot. After all, another video of something off in the distance and then disappearing might not have helped the cause in the way that the rest of the gang seemed to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 MM is actually trying to convince his members that bigfoot do have black noses like dogs, even saying that if we lived in the cold after ridding ourselves of clothing for a hundred thousand years, that we would eventually evolve black noses too. Okay, neither two of the four Sasquatch that I got a look at their noses, were they at all black. Make sense? Nor was their skin black as he claims. I could see the skin through the hair, on the nose, ears, palms, upper cheeks, and feet bottoms. No black skin. And as was pointed out over there, where does Patty fit in re the black nose? What a bunch of BS it is to infer that all bigfoot have black noses. Obviously Patty contradicts that. That's not to say that there may be a subspecies/races with black skin and thus explaining the nose being that color. But its definitely not the rule. Cliff B., I hope you know what you are doing. You're taking the wrong path if you ask me. There's no understanding of Sasquatch coming from that crowd. Sadly many who don't know any better can only follow... Finding Bigfoot or what bfro claims, is not what I know to be legit. There is no expertise demonstrated from those kind of claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest radiodiggle Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Surely any credibility MM may have had, disappeared immediately this third episode aired. To see his pudgy, sweating form wobbling up that hill after a thermal signature was all the evidence I need that he is a complete clown. His abusive shouting down and bullying of his colleagues only reinforces that he cannot be taken seriously as a leader or researcher. The word 'scientific' should not be allowed within 100 yards of this bozo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VaBigfoot Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 (edited) It's my opinion that Animal Planet's Finding Bigfoot North Carolina show was very informative last night. The Greene footage reconstruction the BFRO completed does demonstrate that Mr. Greene was completely wrong concerning past statements he had made about his film. Mr. Greene also offered new conflicting information concerning the candy bar that the "subject" had supposedly taken while it was being filmed. It has been my opinion that the Greene footage is a hoax. The Animal Planet Finding Bigfoot team was able to recreate the Greene footage exactly! Even Ranae, the BFRO Field Biologist commented that the original Greene thermal footage and the recreation footage the BFRO filmed were identical, there was no way to tell them apart even though Bobo was wearing cloths and a jacket! In the past, Mr. Greene focused on the fact that it couldn't be a man in his film because the thing in the film wasn't wearing clothes as indicated by the bright even heat signature recorded by the thermal camera, as you probably heard Mr. Greene say many times and as his website states “You Can’t Fool a Thermal Imagerâ€. It seems the BFRO members were very surprised that the recreation exactly matched Mr. Greene’s footage to the point where they seemed to defend him. They could only respond by saying that the air temperature was a few degrees warmer and that was the reason for the exact recreation. Unfortunately for them, that is not the case. Another interesting artifact surfaced last night about what Mr. Greene said concerning the candy bar after he returned to pack up his equipment and leave the campsite after the filming that night. During a 2010 Blog-Talk Radio show, I typed in a question that was read aloud by the host to Mr. Greene and the listeners. The question I asked was, "Did you go back to where you left the candy bar and look for possible evidence such as the candy bar or wrapper"? He stumbled a few seconds before attempting to answer the question. He did finally respond by saying, no, I didn't go back to look because I didn't know what I had on the video until the next day. He further elaborated and said, I didn't go back and I don't think anyone else did either. Yet during the Animal Planet show last night Mr. Greene said when he got back to the site, the candy bar was gone and the camera battery was dead. To me, Mr. Greene’s lack of knowledge concerning thermal imaging and his contradictory statements are a cause for concern. I'm glad the BFRO was able to recreate the Greene footage and prove that even a person wearing clothes can still emit a bright heat signature. As for Mr. Greene’s candy bar (evidence) statements, why the conflicting versions? My goal is to separate fact from fiction in some of this research. In my opinion, Mr. Greene’s thermal Bigfoot footage is unfortunately not the real deal. William Dranginis Manassas, VA. Edited June 13, 2011 by VaBigfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Ok, This episode had a quite a few laughs, and props to Bobo, Cliff and Renae for presenting themselves in a professional demeanor and schooling their "leader" on how to work as a team. Renae, good job with observation skills on the videos and for explaining the deer carcass as something besides a bigfoot kill. Anyone else notice how neurotic MM gets when he is questioned and/or disagreed with? Pressure brings out what's there! I'll wait to comment more after MM defends himself and blames his behavior on the Discovery Network's editing skills. Wudewasa, I must say I agree. I pretty much have an open mind about the BFRO and it seems you have a history with them and/or their leader. This was almost like the cult leader had been questioned and there was no questioning his authority. Why wouldn't you listen to a new team member and listen to her point of view as a skeptic? When it comes down to it Bobo was very similar in size to the "creature". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Mr. Dranginis, you have always stayed true to your story involving this video and it seems you thoughts were correct when you first ascertained them a few years ago. In other words thanks for sticking to your story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wudewasa Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Wudewasa, I must say I agree. I pretty much have an open mind about the BFRO and it seems you have a history with them and/or their leader. This was almost like the cult leader had been questioned and there was no questioning his authority. Why wouldn't you listen to a new team member and listen to her point of view as a skeptic? When it comes down to it Bobo was very similar in size to the "creature". No quarrel with the BFRO, just MM's attitude, but I have to wonder why so many creative, intelligent people involve themselves in a group with a guy like him in charge? Ultimately, that's their choice but I think Cliff, Bobo and Renae could do better without him. Again, trying to withold further commentary until we get to read MM's new comments about this week's episode! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CaptainMorgan Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 As for Matt heading off and chasing what he saw, there was no team effort there, no communication, no plan, just him surging in to the brush and leaving them standing their holding their collective privates. This isnt team work, and as they pointed out, if one of them had been such a cowboy, he would have sorely reprimanded them on camera. So it really is a case of "Do as I say, not as I do". You know, they were lead in to that area by some folks, and as soon as they heard something nearby, dismissed them and told them to leave "We'll take it from here". For all we know it was one of the other people messing with them. IMHO, Matt didn't have to dismiss those folks, he could have had them stay there and talk and build a small fire and sing Kumbaya, and then eased off with the thermals to scout the area and see if Bf would get closer. Instead of thinking about how to properly utilize the folks that were doing him a favor, he sent them packing, I'm sure he will win new friends that way. And the deer thing . . woe . . just too much. No one can say anything about BF with such conviction and authority. Of course it isn't possible that the deer was hit by a car and managed to limp the 1\4 mile from the road to that spot where it expired, that would just be CRAZY talk! . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yeti1974 Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I understand that sending the "non-professionals" off once again is annoying, but I understand the logic of it in the sense that the show is about the four investigators. Again, not trying to defend MM overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 “You Can’t Fool a Thermal Imager†I bought into this line, based on example screen captures posted on the web -- until last night. I couldn't differentiate between Bobo and Greene's purported bigfoot based on what was televised. Another interesting artifact surfaced last night about what Mr. Greene said concerning the candy bar after he returned to pack up his equipment and leave the campsite after the filming that night. During a 2010 Blog-Talk Radio show, I typed in a question that was read aloud by the host to Mr. Greene and the listeners. The question I asked was, "Did you go back to where you left the candy bar and look for possible evidence such as the candy bar or wrapper"? He stumbled a few seconds before attempting to answer the question. He did finally respond by saying, no, I didn't go back to look because I didn't know what I had on the video until the next day. He further elaborated and said, I didn't go back and I don't think anyone else did either. Yet during the Animal Planet show last night Mr. Greene said when he got back to the site, the candy bar was gone and the camera battery was dead. Bill, are you saying that Greene never bothered to look at the stump after returning to see if his bait had been taken? I would consider that odd. Why put out bait unless you plan to see if it worked? As to the camera battery, I believe he returned after a two-hour absence, because he knew the battery would last only two hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 Can anyone tell me what the second 'beast' walking right to left above MATT MONEYMAKER'S head is? Why no mention of it in the episode? Could it have been BOBO and RENE? perhaps that is why they were so worried about Matt charging off like that. were they the ones Matt had on NV? http://animal.discovery.com/videos/finding-bigfoot-chasing-bigfoot-at-night.html Go to the 27 second mark, and check out the second beast over the head of Matt Moneymaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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