Guest slimwitless Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Very astute observations. Regarding the lack of scuttlebutt on other sites my only plausible answer would be "Yeah we've heard that one before" Many are desensitized and callused. I have no clue on the Taxidermy question. Unless his comfort level was just higher. Believe it or not they may not be as jaded as we are. Did an inquisition take place on the taxidermy site I wonder? The shooter was a regular of that site. He was friendly with a lot of the other posters. Most of those guys were also experienced hunters. It makes perfect sense that he would post there first. Apparently the shooter appealed to a guy named George Roof, a long-time poster on that forum, to get the administrators to delete the thread after it spun out of control. George Roof also happens to be a bigfoot proponent and, if I'm not mistaken, a witness as well. His posts defending the topic in the face of intense mockery are really something not seen in these parts. The reason the Sierra shootings are discussed so much on this site should be obvious. Randles is a member. So is the shooter. So is the original source for Lindsay's story. So is Stubstad. So is Ketchum for that matter. As a result, this is where everyone gravitated. That's my read on it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crowlogic Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Said farm has all that kind of farm stuff except there are no bigfoot on it, around it or near it. Never were and never will be except by the distant possibility that one day some enterprising gene splicer will cross homo sapiens with a gorilla. And that's about as long of a shot (no pun intended) that the Serria Shooting has of having any real legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jodie Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 So dolphins have totally avoided humans and their cameras and have no society? And you ignore the post to which I was referring: "Well they could be intelligent and not anywhere near human." So you have tried to derail, to divert attention, to not face the facts. duly noted. Well since it was my comment and I answered you, I'm not sure I understand why you are focusing on the short answer..... No dolphins haven't avoided us, do live in pods, and research is ongoing in how they communicate. However, no one knows for certain what bigfoot actually is at this point. If you go with the supposition that bigfoot is a primate you would assume that they would have characteristics that other primates have, however, maybe that assumption is simply wrong as opposed to the forgone conclusion that they might not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FuriousGeorge Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Well since it was my comment and I answered you, I'm not sure I understand why you are focusing on the short answer..... lol yeah you got the +'s but I made the point first. lol I didn't elaborate because I figured it was self explanatory. Actually, I just wanted people think about it a little more. Hopefully it was the catalyst for your great post. So dolphins have totally avoided humans and their cameras and have no society? And you ignore the post to which I was referring: "Well they could be intelligent and not anywhere near human." So you have tried to derail, to divert attention, to not face the facts. duly noted. Haha no, nothing so drastic from me here. If it seemed like a derail or distraction than the point was missed. These are the facts as I see them in direct response to your post. I'm pointing out the fact that it's apples and oranges. We can't solely judge intelligence per our needs. We developed our intelligence from our needs. We needed fire, cloths etc. and the smart ones figured it out and prospered. A dolphin developed it's intelligence per it's needs, as well did all other animals. The dolphin never needed to figure out how to build a shelter, yet through natural selection they still gained intelligence. Was it the same path we took to get to where we are? No. Same goes for every animal including bf, if there is such an animal. Listing those criteria that we deem as a sign of intelligence does not fit any other animal except humans. A bf does not need cloths to survive as a species. He does need to be able to detect danger to survive. Perhaps smelling our faintest scent left behind is not even a challenge. Perhaps not. I'm using evolution as a model for this theory. If there is a point I am missing, I'm all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted October 17, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) Crowlogic, where is this farm at? Is there good deer huntin, corn field's? Any food plots? I hope you go through with it & take the Farm with no sympathy felt whatsoever when doing so for the grovelling " Ex " Owner .. Edited October 17, 2011 by BobbyO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 General, I am a farmer and if you acquire said farm and it is in the Midwest and you want to rent it out, get ahold of me! Haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 We know General was the guy who pulled the trigger in the Sierra story. Who was driving? Before you say "merge the thread" hear me out. If the driver has half the chunk o' squatch that was recovered and has been in hiding and out of the public conversation, I assume he or she has not come into these NDA agreements. Even if they have, cut half the chunk off and hand it off to a third party and get it as far away from this Ketchum/Erickson/Paulides/Biscardi disaster that we have been anxiously awaiting. Take it in to foxnews or another national stage and say "I have hard evidence of Sasquatch" and see what happens. Anyone know who has the other chunk and could convince them to do an end run around the project that seems to have no end in sight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest slimwitless Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 (edited) I'm not sure why you've lumped Biscardi into the mix. My understanding is that any involvement he had ended a long time ago. I think he was responsible for procuring the toe nail for the study (don't quote me on that) and that sample may not even be included. But I admit, I don't know for sure. I do know his involvement was extremely limited in the early days. Anyway, I get the impression the driver takes only a modest interest in this circus. Supposedly he doesn't even have an Internet connection...which, when you get right down to it, is probably why we don't know who he is. Edited October 17, 2011 by slimwitless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 If anything, Biscardi has been trying to discredit the study. I suppose a truly ambitious individual could get records of all bear tag applicants in California in 2010 and cross reference with known associates of General. But, that would require knowing the General and his associates. We would also need either Woodward or Bernstein or possibly both. BTW (Slightly off topic) - Has anyone checked to see if there was a returned bear tag to the DFG by General during the bear season in question? I know some people have claimed that he simply shot a bear. If that's the case, according to the following ordinance, that should be fairly easy to check: Any person who takes a bear shall present the skull (even if damaged) to a department office/officer within 10 days of taking the bear. The skull shall become property of the department. That portion of the skull not needed for scientific purposes shall be returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted October 17, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted October 17, 2011 I'm not sure why you've lumped Biscardi into the mix & i don't know why it's been described as a " disaster " either.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Crowlogic Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 I hope you go through with it & take the Farm with no sympathy felt whatsoever when doing so for the grovelling " Ex " Owner .. Bobby you can't be serious. Are we to believe that the Sierra Shooting is different from ALL the other so called "proof is on the way stories we've had over the years?" And just how long does it take to test for a DNA match? This story broke months ago and we're no further along than we were in the beginning. If it was going to happen it would have happened a long time ago. There's nothing to this thing it's just the Buggs story with a different gloss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Bobby you can't be serious. Are we to believe that the Sierra Shooting is different from ALL the other so called "proof is on the way stories we've had over the years?" And just how long does it take to test for a DNA match? This story broke months ago and we're no further along than we were in the beginning. If it was going to happen it would have happened a long time ago. There's nothing to this thing it's just the Buggs story with a different gloss. We had some BF dna tested and it took a month but turned out contaminated or degraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 17, 2011 Share Posted October 17, 2011 Do you believe it has been a well run project? Been on time with the schedule they have laid out? No infighting between the parties involved? All the submitters know the status of the project? It is as chaotic of a project as possible! I am also sure I read somewhere that Biscardi had taken samples to Ketchum. Of course, I still believe the chunk was sawed off a body in possession. I could be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted October 17, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted October 17, 2011 Do you believe it has been a well run project? Been on time with the schedule they have laid out? No infighting between the parties involved? All the submitters know the status of the project? It is as chaotic of a project as possible! I am also sure I read somewhere that Biscardi had taken samples to Ketchum. Of course, I still believe the chunk was sawed off a body in possession. I could be wrong? I haven't a clue, all i know is there is so much " He said, she said " that it's bordering on ridiculous. But that's no reflection on the Projects, it's a reflection on Members of this Forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyO Posted October 17, 2011 SSR Team Share Posted October 17, 2011 Bobby you can't be serious. Are we to believe that the Sierra Shooting is different from ALL the other so called "proof is on the way stories we've had over the years?" And just how long does it take to test for a DNA match? This story broke months ago and we're no further along than we were in the beginning. If it was going to happen it would have happened a long time ago. There's nothing to this thing it's just the Buggs story with a different gloss. Post #1162 from the " Sierra Shooting from A-Z " thread added to the growing List.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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