Interview With Hunter Who Mistakenly Killed A Sasquatch

[Catmandoo]

Tossing in Giganto was a stretch. We agree to disagree.

[norseman]

12 hours ago, Catmandoo said:

Tossing in Giganto was a stretch. We agree to disagree.

If science can exhume a skull and look at the skull and decide where all the muscle attachment points are? And then recreate the face, the lips, the eyes, the nose and the mouth with precision?

 

Then they can look at a living creature and reverse engineer its skeleton. Muscle and bone and how they interact is a two way street.

 

There is nothing “Giganto” about it. It’s Patty.

 

So be it.

[Catmandoo]

No one knows what Gigantopithecus blacki looked like. G.H.R. von Koenigswald found several large teeth in a Hong Kong apothecary being sold as 'dragon bones'. Not exactly boots on dirt field work. Koenigswald did not do much with the dragon teeth. Currently the score is 2,000 fossilized teeth and 4 jawbones. No skulls, no fragments of skulls. Modern forensic sculptors do impressive work because they work off of skulls, partial skulls. No cranial fossils for Giganto means no visual image.

Serious study has been done on teeth to determine food availability over time for the knuckle draggers. Serious fruit eater and then adapting to fibrous foods like bark and twigs. Odd that there is no fossil record for a large animal that roamed around China / SE Asia for 2 million years. Pesky porcupines  really ate up those bones before the soil  decomposed what remained.

Modern researchers have put in about a decade of research on the teeth and jaw bones.  It is believed that the closest living relative is the Bornean orangutan. Orangutan <--> Sasquatch is a no go. Combining bones from different animals is a bad idea.

 

Anyone remember the giant cyclops heads?  They were elephant skulls.

 

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[Huntster]

10 hours ago, Catmandoo said:

No one knows what Gigantopithecus blacki looked like. G.H.R. von Koenigswald found several large teeth in a Hong Kong apothecary being sold as 'dragon bones'. Not exactly boots on dirt field work. Koenigswald did not do much with the dragon teeth. Currently the score is 2,000 fossilized teeth and 4 jawbones. No skulls, no fragments of skulls. Modern forensic sculptors do impressive work because they work off of skulls, partial skulls. No cranial fossils for Giganto means no visual image..........

 

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Sorta' like finding a 40,000 year old splinter of finger bone in a cave and building a new human species. They do it all the time.

 

Then they ignore the 800 lb two-legged critter running around in their back yards.

[norseman]

9 hours ago, Catmandoo said:

No one knows what Gigantopithecus blacki looked like. G.H.R. von Koenigswald found several large teeth in a Hong Kong apothecary being sold as 'dragon bones'. Not exactly boots on dirt field work. Koenigswald did not do much with the dragon teeth. Currently the score is 2,000 fossilized teeth and 4 jawbones. No skulls, no fragments of skulls. Modern forensic sculptors do impressive work because they work off of skulls, partial skulls. No cranial fossils for Giganto means no visual image.

Serious study has been done on teeth to determine food availability over time for the knuckle draggers. Serious fruit eater and then adapting to fibrous foods like bark and twigs. Odd that there is no fossil record for a large animal that roamed around China / SE Asia for 2 million years. Pesky porcupines  really ate up those bones before the soil  decomposed what remained.

Modern researchers have put in about a decade of research on the teeth and jaw bones.  It is believed that the closest living relative is the Bornean orangutan. Orangutan <--> Sasquatch is a no go. Combining bones from different animals is a bad idea.

 

Anyone remember the giant cyclops heads?  They were elephant skulls.

 

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Thank you for a very detailed history of Gigantopithicus. If no one knows what G. Blacki looked like? How are you so convinced that it’s skull ended up on the Patty skeleton 3d print?

 

And you’re telling me that if modern forensic sculptors had a good video of a G. Blacki they could not recreate the skeleton? I know they could. That would be way easier and more accurate than recreating a whole animal based on a molar and jaw bone fragments.

 

Cyclops? Are you suggesting modern forensic sculptors would make a cyclops out of an elephant skull? To my knowledge the cyclops myth comes from ancient peoples. Just as G. Blacki teeth were sold associated with dragons. Instead of a very large primate. 
 

I am not sure where you are going with any of this. It’s very obvious that Patty’s morphology is very different from a Homo Sapien. Dr. Jeff Meldrum’s project I think is an interesting one and something science does all the time. Calling it a “fake” does a disservice to him and to science. Science makes educated guesses based on available data. Velociraptors were the size of turkeys and feathered. No one knew this when Jurassic park came out.
 

It’s ever evolving.
 

But I am mystified by the fact that someone could look at Patty and say “that’s a human woman”! She looks nothing like a human woman. And morphology matters! It’s an expression of DNA after all. And if you diss on Dr. Jeff Meldrum because he created something that looks too “ape like” in your mind? Where are you getting the data it’s not? What are your credentials to say it’s wrong? Is this simply because of preconceived notions? Melba Ketchums DNA study? What the root cause here for such consternation?

 

Thou protest too much.

[norseman]

Here is Bill Munns explaining WHY Patty isn't a human in a suit. Including head dimensions.

 

Morphology matters.