Sierra Sounds

[bipedalist]

@Mizzy DI think that www.sasquatchbioacoustic.blogspot.com   is monongahela 's website a member of the Olympic Project and sasquatch sound specialist and recordist who has been at it for prolly 20 years or so, based in Virginia I think.  http://www.olympicproject.com/member/monongahela/  David Ellis in that group does a lot of recording too. 

Sorry for duplicate reply I had been trying to post a response all morning and the website would not allow me to for some reason. 

Edited November 5, 2021 by bipedalist

[BobbyO]

That's the cowboy, B ! 

[Madison5716]

While we're discussing sounds and possible language, I heard the sound that the presumed bigfoot yelled at me in someone else's video.. In one of Reo's videos - the famous one where he's come upon the family of them on the mountaintop - one of them yells exactly the same thing that I heard. It was a warning type call in both instances. If one in Oregon says the same thing in warning, I find it interesting that the one wherever Reo is (Utah?) said something similar. 

 

Monongahela has my utmost respect. 

Edited November 6, 2021 by Madison5716

[MIB]

On 11/2/2021 at 12:06 PM, wiiawiwb said:

It would be quite interesting if one could muster the nerve to just calmly stay there and watch their reaction. In essence, to call their bluff.

 

That is more or less my plan for the next go-around .. if I remember to do it.    The strategy is to just sit down.    It is both refusing to flee and giving up the option of attack.   It is willingness to accept the situation, manage the fear (if any), and put the choice of outcome in their hands.    There is a component of "put up or shut up" to it.   It could backfire badly or it could be absolutely perfect.    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.    I have the crackpot idea that scared humans are dangerous.  

 

MIB

[bipedalist]

14 hours ago, Madison5716 said:

While we're discussing sounds and possible language, I heard the sound that the presumed bigfoot yelled at me in someone else's video.. In one of Reo's videos - the famous one where he's come upon the family of them on the mountaintop - one of them yells exactly the same thing that I heard. It was a warning type call in both instances. If one in Oregon says the same thing in warning, I find it interesting that the one wherever Reo is (Utah?) said something similar. 

 

Monongahela has my utmost respect. 

 

Do you have a link to that Reo video?  

9 hours ago, MIB said:

 

That is more or less my plan for the next go-around .. if I remember to do it.    The strategy is to just sit down.    It is both refusing to flee and giving up the option of attack.   It is willingness to accept the situation, manage the fear (if any), and put the choice of outcome in their hands.    There is a component of "put up or shut up" to it.   It could backfire badly or it could be absolutely perfect.    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.    I have the crackpot idea that scared humans are dangerous.  

 

MIB

The object is to use that approach as often as you can stand the heat-agreed, having been in that fire several times, it does wear down your resilience but is quite addictive.  It probably leads to increased opportunities with a set of Locals up to a point to where somebody blinks, usually not the Locals.  Using the Bigfoot Observers Field Manual techniques via Robert W Morgan styling does work. 

Edited November 6, 2021 by bipedalist

[Patterson-Gimlin]

On 11/6/2021 at 1:25 AM, MIB said:

 

That is more or less my plan for the next go-around .. if I remember to do it.    The strategy is to just sit down.    It is both refusing to flee and giving up the option of attack.   It is willingness to accept the situation, manage the fear (if any), and put the choice of outcome in their hands.    There is a component of "put up or shut up" to it.   It could backfire badly or it could be absolutely perfect.    Nothing ventured, nothing gained.    I have the crackpot idea that scared humans are dangerous.  

 

MIB

Sounds like a good plan. 

I personally could not do it. 

Bluff or not, I am taking the shot. 

[TheTreeman]

On 11/3/2021 at 7:46 AM, BobbyO said:

 

Don't be so sure.

 

This is a recording that my brother from another mother Chris Spencer got. IMO this is at the very minimum 'comparable' to what was recorded in the Sierra's.

 

Washington, Southern Cascades.

 

*Use of headphones is suggested* On January 3rd of 2016 I recorded an odd vocal in an area I call T1 that I believe the target subjects winter in. I placed audio out at about 5 p.m., dusk, and this recording occurs at 7:37 p.m. It was snowing like crazy that night and the recorder was in a marshy area with lots of old growth cedar bordering it. My good friend David Hallet cleaned the clip up for me. He's a bit of a sound wizard and was able to remove a lot of the ambient noise to bring the vocal out. Unfortunately, there was an airplane flying over when the vocal occurred.

 

 at least 

 

This is incredible! I have heard this numerous times, especially that gibbon-like "chirping" before the grumbling. One thing that I notices from what I have heard around the US in person and from audio like this is that there seems to be a common "voice" to all of it. I would call it like a giant angry goblin voice even when they are speaking clearly, if that makes sense.

 

But as far as my answer to the thread goes, I have heard similar talking to the Sierra sounds multiple times, one time it was probably not further than 50 feet from me, there was thick brush separating us but it was still extremely powerful and easy to hear. It was two of them talking back and forth, one a very large male voice and another almost kiddish, clearly much smaller. The voices didn't have as strong of a "oriental twang" to them that I heard though that there was with the ones in the Sierra Sounds. It was very clear non garbled speech and went on for a few minutes. I have heard it in small bursts, including whispers at night, in several places since then but in my experience hearing speech is very rare, I think they only do it when people aren't around that they know of. 

[BobbyO]

Where are you based Mr Treeman ? Just State/County i mean, not your actual address.  

[TheTreeman]

7 hours ago, BobbyO said:

Where are you based Mr Treeman ? Just State/County i mean, not your actual address.  

 

Primarily in the Southwestern tip of Virginia but I spent several years researching in the Croatan National Forest when I was in the Marines. I will be spending this week in the Kiamichi mountains and next week likely will be in northern Virginia. I am going to put those laminated pictures and some other things in the woods and periodically check on them! I travel alot, I had been very private about my research for years but now want to go public and start actively networking with other researchers and exploring new areas, it's more fun that way!

[wiiawiwb]

One of the best Bigfoot documentaries I've watched was located in the Kiamichi mountains. It's a tad old. Oldies but goodies!

 

 

[TheTreeman]

7 hours ago, wiiawiwb said:

One of the best Bigfoot documentaries I've watched was located in the Kiamichi mountains. It's a tad old. Oldies but goodies!

 

 

Ill definitely have to check that out! One thing I can say about the Kiamichi Mountain range is that the foots there seem to act much different than in other places around the country. Within the first few hours of my first day there I had a sighting already and the following night after being bluff charged by something ~200-300lbs and on all 4s as I slept in my hammock I was awokened later by the best woodknocks  I have ever heard(Like explosions going off). I recorded all of the audio. I am extremely excited to be going back there in a few days!

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1V3jsL6pmOWy62apBdmezSYNeGoQQGW93/view?usp=sharing

 

Those knocks happened around 1-3 AM as I recall and were about a mile away near a creek from what I could tell. I could FEEL them even that far away. Whatever did that must have been absolutely enormous.

[Madison5716]

@bipedalist, here's the two links to the Reo vids.

 

 

 

And

 

 

I'll tt

I'll try to find the timestamp where I heard the same sound. But I'll have to watch them both first, because I don't remember when it was.

[Tylo]

I did hear something similar to the Sierra Sounds when I lived in Wisconsin.  It was a strange nighttime experience, things happened and after that I would not go out during the nighttime hours.  There is a certain part of the Sierra Sounds with high pitched almost dog-like sounds, so similar to what I heard in WI that I almost cried.  It really unsettled me and took a few weeks for my brain to process.  I can also say that in addition to hearing breathing made with astoundingly large lungs that the breathing sounded wet, slightly congested in a weird way.

[Hoekler73]

On 11/2/2021 at 3:21 AM, Patterson-Gimlin said:

For those of you that have observed these creatures, have you ever heard them make sounds similar to the infamous Sierra Sounds?

Although I have heard vocalizations, they were nothing like the Sierra Sounds. I have never heard anything like the Ohio howl either... it certainly doesn't mean that these aren't authentic. Many species have a diverse set of vocalizations.

[MIB]

I have not heard anything quite like the sierra sounds.

 

Never heard what I'd truly call a howl either.   I've heard a very loud "roar" but it is low pitched, no scream or howl component to it.   

 

A couple times I've heard sort of mumbly voices.    Never with that kind of deranged chatter component the Sierra Sounds have.

 

Once I heard 3 entities of some sort hollering back and forth.    They were simultaneously getting closer together and moving towards me.    Though they met up and seemed to be just a few yards apart for a couple hundred yards, they continued hollering.   The language was tonal, nothing I recognized, and fairly high pitched .. like pre-teen / pre-puberty boys.    Though they passed within 75 - 100 yards of me in the forest I could not see them.   They paused uphill for me for 15-20 minutes hollering occasionally before eventually splitting up.   One stayed above me about 150 yards while the other two went uphill and away in opposite directions .. sort of reforming the triangle their voices originally seemed to come from.    Other people heard them .. couple of hikers I ran into.  

 

Strange when it happens.   I would say nothing I've heard .. other than the first roar which came from only 3/4ths of a mile from me .. seemed particularly threatening.

 

The Sierra Sounds rattle my nerves.