Wish Me Luck, Boys (And Girls)

[JDL]

Great fun, See.

 

I'd take some fish next time and lightly fry it in butter.  Cook it slowly to maximize time, drift, and area of the aroma.

 

Fish are harder for them to catch and contain nutrients that are probably in short supply in their diet. 

 

Leverage their cravings.

[kbhunter]

I am not sure if anyone has noticed, but See actually posted this in September of 2011. It appears several think it could have just been posted. It would be cool to know if See-Te-Cah NC has had anymore luck or interaction since this trip.

KB

[JDL]

whilst were waiting for See-te to come down for breakfast, how would one go about filing a patent for a bf related piece of kit?

 

Start with a provisional patent application.  The provisional patent application is just a summary of your idea and acts as a place holder for your precedence date until you file the actual patent application.  You have one year to file the full application or the provisional expires along with your rights.

 

A provisional can be filed for around a hundred bucks on line, but I recommend sitting down with a patent attorney for a free consultation first.  I actually think it's worth it to have an attorney file for you.  If you do this, the provisional will run about $600 with a reasonably priced professional.

 

The attorney will recommend that you conduct a patent search for similar patents that may already exist.  You can do this on your own, but are likely to miss something.  There is also a Freedom to Operate analysis that you may need at some point which makes sure that you don't infringe on something that has a different purpose but has a somewhat similar element.  Let's say you come up with a new mouthpiece for an animal call, which is novel and patentable, but the rest of you animal call is pretty much the same as someone else's patent.  You'd have new patent, but would be infringing if you started making the new product.

 

In the end it comes down to how your claims are worded.  Often you can work with the patent examiner to develop wording that steps around or between any existing prior art claims.

 

it's inexpensive to get started, but the costs mount as you proceed, so you have to constantly evaluate the next step.  Most people lock in the idea with a provisional, then seek investors, or simply sell the patent application to someone else. 

[Guest]

You kbhunter are saluted , I gave my plus away already. I did read the initial posts, but not the date....nice catch!

Edited September 3, 2013 by apehuman

[Guest Darrell]

Good luck. Your Smith .50 revolver is a large, powerful handgun, but it pales in comparison to most rifles.

While it may pale comparred to "some" rifles, having shot several of them over the last few years (last time was yesterday in fact), that cartridge displays balistics that match or surpass many of the heavy lower velocity rifle rounds such as the 45-70, 35 Rem, or 50 Beowolf. Although a 458 Win Mag or 375 H&H Mag might be a better choice, at sleeping bag distances I would say its about as perfect a bigfoot gun as you can get.

[Guest Rex]

While it may pale comparred to "some" rifles, having shot several of them over the last few years (last time was yesterday in fact), that cartridge displays balistics that match or surpass many of the heavy lower velocity rifle rounds such as the 45-70, 35 Rem, or 50 Beowolf. Although a 458 Win Mag or 375 H&H Mag might be a better choice, at sleeping bag distances I would say its about as perfect a bigfoot gun as you can get.

.500 S&W  500gr.

Muzzle Velocity = 1325 fps

Muzzle Energy = 1950 ft. lbs.

45-70  500gr

Muzzle Velocity = 1680 fps

Muzzle Energy = 2274ft. lbs.

.35 Rem 200gr

Muzzle Velocity = 2,225 fps

Muzzle Energy = 2,198 ft. lbs.

.50 Beowulf 400gr

Muzzle Velocity = 1,875 fps

Muzzle Energy = 3,123 ft. lbs.

 

[Guest Darrell]

So shoot those cartridges thru a 8" barrel and compare the balistics.

[norseman]

http://www.garrettcartridges.com/penetration.html

 

 

Despite all the impressive "science" deployed to reinforce the assertion that higher speed projectiles are more capable of inflicting the deep penetration and impact-effect required to reliably anchor heavy game, one finds that these assertions simply do not withstand common sense, repeatable penetration testing. In fact, if one conducts these tests, one finds that there is nothing that can be observed which supports the assertion that the faster one drives non-expanding solids the deeper they penetrate. 

 

Run solids in that .500 hand cannon and you'll be fine.

 

I cannot say the same for your wrists though............

[MIB]

^^ "What him said." 

 

I shot one ... once.  Weirdest sensations I ever felt shooting ... and I didn't care for it much.   With the porting, the muzzle rise was modest.   It didn't seem to have one iota of effect on how fast that scum-sucker came backwards.   When the hammer fell, the gun started back.  It was the first time I ever felt a handgun rotate in the opposite direction as the spin the rifling was imparting on the bullet.   The muzzle started to lift before the porting took over.   Basically what happened was the front sight made a crazy figure 8 during recoil.   The gun came back so fast and so hard rather than riding with the recoil as with a .44, it felt like my wrist and forearm bones were temporarily flexible and actually compressed. 

 

I thought about John Taffin's wrist problems after his load work 'n' such with the .475 and .500 Linebaugh and their "long" versions built on converted Ruger maxi frames as well as other things.

 

I handed it back to the owner, thanked him, and knew I'd just found something that was not for me.   Shootin' is for damaging what's in front of me, not for damaging myself.

 

MIB

[See-Te-Cah NC]

I sold the weapon soon after purchasing it. It was far too much gun for me. However, I do feel that it was more than adequate to protect me during an encounter with any animal within thirty feet. I have no doubt that anything on the receiving end would have felt the pain.

 

A .45 ACP is a much more reasonable choice, IMO. Right now, my Dad's S&W .44 DX Classic is an excellent stand in. I also have a .308 rifle that is effective at long range... very effective.

 

Unfortunately, I can no longer access the site. It was owned by my late girlfriend and is now owned by another party.

[norseman]

Ok...........I just sniffed out the necro poster.

 

*drumroll*

 

ncbfsearch

 

Honorable mention (2nd post)

 

Rex

 

Thanks to both of you, you have lead your compadres right off the necro cliff...........

Edited September 4, 2013 by norseman

[Guest Rex]

So shoot those cartridges thru a 8" barrel and compare the balistics.

 

 

Even my SBR doesn't have an 8" bbl.

 

The exact reason I said "rifle".

 

Ok...........I just sniffed out the necro poster.

 

*drumroll*

 

ncbfsearch

 

Honorable mention (2nd post)

 

Rex

 

Thanks to both of you, you have lead your compadres right off the necro cliff...........

 

 

I thought you enjoyed dead stuff..

[norseman]

[Guest]

Good Effort See! Even though you didn't hit the jackpot you still gave it a good try and put yourself in a position to hit it. Maybe next time will be more productive, and problably will be less stressfull as you become more comfortable and learn from your experiences. I commend you for a Great effort, and for the nerve and fortitude it takes to  spend time alone in nature itself. Many will not even consider doing that. Like they say, I think if research, or even just camping alone were easy everyone would be doing it. And they arent. So Good Job, and Much luck next time!    plussed

 

P.S. Buzzard, There places where you could stay connected with some of the wireless servers on the market now. I'm not an expert at any of it, but we had a service that was wireless and I could take the laptop into the woods a good ways, till the wireless signal failed, but there are probably satelitte servers available that will that connected anywhere. But it is cool chatting from the woods though... lol

[Incorrigible1]

So shoot those cartridges thru a 8" barrel and compare the balistics.

Darrell, your posting was proved incorrect. Thanks to Rex, for saving me the work, and providing the stats.

 

I'm not dismissing the .500 SW, but again, it pales in comparison to a serious rifle.

Edited September 5, 2013 by Incorrigible1