Guest HairyGreek Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Sounds nice in theory but Sasquatch will likely be operating in the dark of night unlike your elephant. Prove it, since we aren't talking theory. Also, Sasquatch is nimble, feet footed, and highly elusive unlike your elephant. Once again, prove it. More nimble than an elephant, I should hope so. If not people would have to be idiots for missing them out in the wild for 40 years. But speaking like they really are nimble and fleet footed...talk is cheap and I am broke. How about you? Finally, your elephant provides a substantially-sized target which sasquatch does not. I'll tell you what. You take a to-scale picture of one and we can compare the two. Deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xspider1 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I am not saying not to carry a pistol while in the woods ,my concern is the word Brandishing.. Got ya. I said: "Hey, if they brandish big tree parts then, why not carry at least a nice size revolver (for defense). " In my scenario, BF is brandishing a big tree part (as has been described) and luckily, I'm carrying a good size revolver (yep! .357). I would certainly hope for a stand-off in that situation where neither BF nor myself gets hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Great story, well told. Two questions: 1. You took cell phone photos of a rock? Why? 2. You named a dog Satan? Seriously? Of the rock in relation to the building, where it ended up basically yes. My son named him actually, technically his dog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) From your account, it sounds like they tangled with a single animal. Any black bear in your area? I always have to weed out all of that stuff out from my head first. The story I hear about Sas and dogs...well, it doesn't usually end well for the dog. I don't know how your lab lived long enough for Satan to make it out to him if it was a BF. Maybe a wolf? I have never seen a coyote hang around long enough for a one-on-one...especially without making dog-like racket during the brawl as well. If your dogs are that messed up, it would need to be at the least a dog of equal size or larger or a larger animal. Although, depending on where you live, I have heard wolverine can be rather tenacious and balsy...especially when hungry. I've not a seen black bear in this area in my lifetime, although I am told they are here by fish and game. I'm not ruling anything out though. Wolverines are not found in East Tx. I still lean toward big cat a cougar or possibly even a jaguar since they are creeping back into the US from South America and Mexico, maybe even a large bobcat. Hopefully today I can find some tufts of hair or something at the spot to help identify it. Edited October 5, 2011 by Tautriadelta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted October 5, 2011 BFF Patron Share Posted October 5, 2011 Sounds nice in theory but Sasquatch will likely be operating in the dark of night unlike your elephant. Also, Sasquatch is nimble, feet footed, and highly elusive unlike your elephant. Finally, your elephant provides a substantially-sized target which sasquatch does not. Funny I've heard tracking team members describe how you should be able to tell if BF has been through your forest area because it should look like an elephant has been through....not my experience....but just the disagreement on opinion of stealthiness I suppose. So if you're looking for an elephant path it would seem to be very easy to find squatch and there should be a lot of pictures of squished hominids between the toes of them and stuff like that I suppose. Dark of night has been my experience but I guess it really depends on how desperate something is to strike while the iron is hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggie Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 In my case at least I would go down fighting, just prior to the horrible screams and sounds of limbs being torn from their sockets. Unless you saved the last bullet for yourself to spare the painful death. Fascinating account btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) From your account, it sounds like they tangled with a single animal. Any black bear in your area? I always have to weed out all of that stuff out from my head first. The story I hear about Sas and dogs...well, it doesn't usually end well for the dog. I don't know how your lab lived long enough for Satan to make it out to him if it was a BF. Maybe a wolf? I have never seen a coyote hang around long enough for a one-on-one...especially without making dog-like racket during the brawl as well. If your dogs are that messed up, it would need to be at the least a dog of equal size or larger or a larger animal. Although, depending on where you live, I have heard wolverine can be rather tenacious and balsy...especially when hungry. My musings about the dog being not dispatched quickly would indicate some patience on a passing BF's part. Just a passing thought. The vet will be by later to look them over and I'm sure he will have an opinion. His father has a large veterinary practice where they produce antibody, so they run hundreds of sheep, goats, donkeys and cows on a 1k acre ranch. I know they have had many predator problems in the past, mainly coyotes and feral dogs. Edited October 5, 2011 by Tautriadelta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 I respectfully disagree, but you are welcome to your own opinions. If this was true, we would be the ones living in the woods. No doubt! I had to +1 that Unless you saved the last bullet for yourself to spare the painful death. Your comment reminded me of the end of Stephen King's "The Mist" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 When you say your dogs were messed up, messed up how? What kind of scratches were on them? Puncture wounds, or just plain scratches and where were they? Were their ears torn, chewed, or intact? That takes a very sharp, pointed claw to snag and tear an ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wild eyed willy Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 such a good story, thanks for sharing the details with us. I was on the edge of my seat worring that the dogs would be hurt, I'm glad to hear they survived. Next time please tell us earlier in the story. The whole thing must have been something to witness. Please let us know what youm find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) When you say your dogs were messed up, messed up how? What kind of scratches were on them? Puncture wounds, or just plain scratches and where were they? Were their ears torn, chewed, or intact? That takes a very sharp, pointed claw to snag and tear an ear. After looking at Gypsy who was certainly the worse for wear of the two David and I concluded that she tangled with a feline, most likely a mature bobcat or young cougar. Her muzzle and neck bore the brunt of the scrap, after a day when things began to scab over it became very easy for him to feel scratches through her coat, and she does have some puncture wounds on her left thigh and just above the withers. Whichever it was didn't quite have the muscle to take her down fast, or was operating defensively and not trying to prey on her. Satan certainly turned the tables and he came away with a pretty nasty laceration on the jowels and a swollen eye that's oozing a bit today. But they will both be fine, just sore for a few days I'm sure. The rock is still bugging me, but I think I have a possible explanation. My nephew had some boys from down the road over that night to watch the game, he said they left late and walked home. They would have gone past my place walking out down the road with 50 yards or so. It's possible one of the boys may have thrown the rock. I can ask them but I doubt they would admit it. I left some BBQ chicken out tonight in a sealed container on my woodpile next to the fence and woods. A game trail runs from my woodpile back into the woods for over a mile before crossing an overgrown logging road. I placed a small log on top of the container at dusk and made a big show about doing it. The wind is out of the north tonight, blowing right into the forest. I smeared a small bit of the BBQ sauce on a tree next to it. I also took two of the white stones from the road and placed one of them on one fence post, and the other stone 20 feet away on another post. I am not going to hold my breath, but at least I will know if they have taken an interest in the house and property again after seemingly being gone from this proximity, and back deeper into the Bottom for the last few years. I am sorry for derailing the thread btw. Anything new I will post in a new thread. BBQ chicken, yum yum! Here's a dark shot of the head of the game trail, it runs right up to my woodpile, a great place to hang out and spy for a curious BF. Here's the building and the rock, just for ref. Silly I know, but I shoot everything I can think of when I am out in "Squatchin' mode" Edited October 7, 2011 by Tautriadelta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 May I ask how you were addressing my post? How will you defend yourself on something that may attack you from your blind spot.I am not saying that this is what they are doing because there are no incident of this kind happening.I can understand the fear and the protection that one must have.But these creatures are not agressive at all and they have never shown agression in my direction to the point that I would have to draw on them. The point I am trying to make is that if they wanted to they can do to us what they want when they want when ever they please.There is no really right way of stopping them since they own the forest and are way to stealthy for us to even have a chance.There is that one chance that one might have snuck up on one by accident and that happens.I believe that is what might have happened in Nothern Califonia.In away it is a matter of luck to see these creatures unless you are actively searching for them, then it becomes a question of when.There are others who have more knowledge of these creatures and i am sure they keep that knowledge to themselves which is a good thing for these creatures.But this knowledge should not be kept hidden maybe some knowledge but not all.This is just my opionion which really does not mean alot in this world since i do not have a PHD behind my last name. But if it did have that PHD it would be a diffirent story. Any personal information is good information to have and possibly recall in the heat of the moment. I have learned much from others who have encountered them and I am trying to put some of it into practice. Better and safer for the Sasquatch and us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Biggie Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Satan certainly turned the tables That he did. You're talking about your dog but the name just makes it so hard not to envision that. Funny stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HairyGreek Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 After looking at Gypsy who was certainly the worse for wear of the two David and I concluded that she tangled with a feline, most likely a mature bobcat or young cougar. I think more likely a a cougar or some such other animal. We have bobcat here in Virginia and my female Rotty readily handled it when it crossed through our backyard without a scratch on her. She is not the size a Warlock Dobbie would get either although she is pretty darned big for a female coming in right at 100 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted October 7, 2011 Admin Share Posted October 7, 2011 Read the scary report below. If you want an encounter, can you turn this hostile situation around so you can get some good pictures of the BF? How brave are you? Can you settle the BF down by leaving food and gifts. Should you stay and shoot BF? What about setting up game cameras and get super pictures since this is a chance of a life time. http://www.albertasasquatch.com/Reports_ForestryTR_2001.html A. In my mind a photo is not going to prove anything to anyone so do not risk your life over something so trivial. If some one has grandiose ideas that they are going to take the photo that breaks this thing wide open? Think again! B. I think the dogs were the gift...... C. If I see a Squatch and I'm able to? I'm shooting! Not because I'm scared but because it's the only way to prove it's existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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