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  1. This is why I seldom "go bigfooting." Instead, I go fishing, hiking, hunting, exploring, taking pictures, whatever. Make those my first priority. Do it where there seems to be an elevated (comparatively speaking) chance of bigfoot activity, but make bigfoot .. secondary. The odds of success at those other things seems higher, high enough to keep the interest going, and "bigfoot country" is a great place to do them.
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  2. Here are some photos from the post above: Chilliwack Lake looking North e
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  3. https://ronmorehead.com/dr-rodney-lynn-kirlin/?fbclid=IwAR0LkTGqRrxgIImOhI7E6bxheji-fFoQV3XP8O5d8CLZKNcHNZ9xABxjuBw
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  4. Getting started as an adult can be difficult. You need some friends, a mentor. Consider taking some .. I hesitate to call them "classes", maybe seminars is a better word .. from someone like REI to get you roughly familiarized with camping. Then when you are comfortable enough, try going out with a group like BFRO. It is not for everyone but .. y' gotta start somewhere. I know some people who go on such trips who "camp" inside their cars which reduces the amount of gear needed.
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  5. What MIB said. "Squatching" is one part of what I do when I head out in the local mountains. I'm out there hunting, prospecting, 4x4ing, and just plain exploring, as I was over 45 years ago when I first had an encounter and trackway find.
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  6. You can only get so much out of other people's accounts. The only cure for your current feelings is time in the deep woods. Experience it yourself rather than relying on people sharing their experiences for profit.
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  7. We've experienced 'similar' sounds under different circumstances. Here's a couple I could find that I knew where to find in my archives. I'll look thru and see what else I can find that's like that. clip-1-june-10-2012-224am.mp3 550068422_may-30-2012-200am-5302012DVRaudio.mp3 short-clip-of-paul-chased.mp3
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  8. Actually the snail darter is not a snail. It is a fish.
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  9. I am just getting warmed up. I wanted to make a post on St. Patricks' day but was blocked by the new firewall. The M18 Motorway in Ireland has one of the famous Hawthorn Trees. Score: Fairies 1, science 0. The delay cost extra tax payer dollars and about 10 years behind schedule. The tax payers approved the extra money to move the motorway project. That Hawthorn Tree is considered to be a portal for the Kerry / Munster Fairies and the Cannaught Fairies to do battle. That portal is their link to the 'Otherworld'. Portals. Why is it portals? This forum has a lot of members in Wales, England, Scotland and Ireland. Places of deep history and high strangeness. I want to know more about the 'Grey Man' and 'Selkies'.
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  10. Interesting thread full of good points. The wilderness is enjoyable and the last day in the woods is the worst day in the woods, hopefully there's always one more. You could spend a lifetime in the woods and never hear or see anything out of the ordinary. You could stumble from your back door too your garbage cans and spot a bigfoot in your yard. I don't think there's a way to improve the odds other than to be out there, enjoying the fresh air. As far as new innovation in the subject, and as much as he's a self aggrandizing showboater, "thinker thunker" promoting body proportion measurement of old photos and videos certainly sheds new light on old evidence. I've heard skepticism over his technique but it still holds true. Go grab a bunch of photos and measure relative length of arms, legs and torso and see what appears.
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  11. Thank you for working through it! You are amazing, and we appreciate you.
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  12. Actually, changes in construction projects have occurred in the UK and Ireland. There is a plethora of special entities over there and they have existed through the ages. Damaging a bush or tree that they hang out in is hazardous. The DeLorean factory construction destroyed a special bush. The Hawthorn tree / bush may have special meaning in the UK and Ireland. I can't recall the roadway, but construction was changed so that the road went around a Hawthorn tree. Hawthorn trees are left alone and avoided. The U.S. does not have the history that the UK has. The U.S. has forms of 'tricksters' and 'little people'. I am not going to touch skinwalkers or dogmen. Animals on the endangered species list stop construction projects.
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  13. Two is one and one is none. Redundancy saves you life when it comes to fire, water, shelter, injury, crisis communication, and navigation. I never go out without two bic lighters, paper map and compass in addition to GPS, a 1mil plastic sheet in addition to my tent, two methods to stop bleeding, an InReach Mini and PLB, and two ways to filter water. All a waste of time, money and additional weight until the circumstance comes when things hit the skids; then you're reminded how preparation pays off. Search for local survival schools and you'll likely find one or two to join. Usually not cheap but a fun time while learning. YouTube has tremendous information about various subject matters related to the outdoors. Dave Canterbury, of Dual Survival fame, runs a school out of Ohio. He also does a ton of how-to videos that are excellent. I've learned quite a bit from them. https://www.youtube.com/@DavidCanterbury/videos You have to start somepplace. Pick an area of interest, say shelter, and learn what you can about how to build a shelter good enough to save your life. Practive in your local woods. It builds confidence. Then move on to the next subject and learn about that. Oftentimes, they build on each other so learning one benefits the other. Here are a few helpful places to look: https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/ --- a variety of outdoor topics in a forum environment https://www.survivalistboards.com/forums/ -- similar ot the one above https://www.adkhighpeaksfoundation.org/adkhpf/navagation.php -- the best source material I've ever come across about map and compass, terrain association, and wilderness navigation.
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  14. Which is just a vicious cycle. We cannot classify a species that has not been discovered. Therefore we cannot afford them any protection under the endangered species act. Or the Bureau of Indian affairs for that matter, if you prefer. Until proof is presented? They reside in the realm of Pixies and Gnomes. And no one is going to stop a freeway project or a new dam project for a Pixie or a Gnome. So right now it’s a crap shoot. With no scientific data to back up any of our conclusions.
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  15. Well this person seems to be confused. Typically apex predators go first in a eco system. Wolves and bears in Europe. Tigers in India. Tigers in Siberia. Grizzly Bears in the western USA. The eco system lives on without them in a modified state. Typically with humans historically assuming the role. There is certainly a debate within Bigfootdom as to what is best for the species. Many coming down on the side that discovery would be bad for the species. I on the other hand point to many many species that have been saved from public concern and funding. The Mountain Gorilla for example.🤷‍♂️ If the Mountain Gorilla remained a cryptid? They would be gone by now.
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  16. I found the foot morphology explanation to be very germane to our topic. Thals had longer toes and longer heels. Because they were ambush predators living in thick forests and mountains. Where have I heard this before?🤔
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  17. My opinion and observation is that it's only a guess. Can they really? Show us the math. It's as absurd as a guy I once watched in a BF video interview who claimed he could tell the weight and gender of a sasquatch based on their prints, step length, and appearance of the foot print. The person interviewing this guy just ate it all up hook, line and sinker. The bravado of some in the research community is astounding and laughable.
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  18. If the cousins won’t help you out and you are truly interested in becoming proficient in the outdoors? There are plenty of survival schools to choose from. Varying skill levels and different courses to choose from. https://www.northwestsurvivalschool.com I have actually thought about putting on a school to learn how to do the stuff that I was raised with. A rifle, a chainsaw and a four wheel drive was like all my friends goal to own by the time we were 16. We just took it for granted. Our greatest time was every fall cutting firewood and hunting deer in the national forest.
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  19. Good video of NE Washington!
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  20. On Sunday, March24th, I spent the day with my son Rick exploring the creek valleys to the east of Chilliwack Lake, just north of the Canada/US border. This area is only accessible from the Canadian side, as the FSR ends a km or so short of the line, and no roads extend north into the area from the US side. We first ventured up the Paleface Creek valley on the old decommissioned FSR, up to the point where the snow pack halted progress in the H3. We spotted the first fresh bear scat of this year on the way, and one scrawny looking grouse, but not much else of interest. Skunk cabbage is blooming in the area, which is often the first food for bears in the spring. We then continued south on the main FSR to the Depot Greek valley, which also has been decommissioned, with lots of deep water bars, almost at the limit of what my H3 can handle. In this valley, there was no snow until the very end of the road, which is about 500 meters from the border, according to Gaia Maps. The scenery in this valley is great, so we took a few pictures, and scouted around for tracks. We found lots of deer prints, and some large canine ones as well, which might have been someone's dog trotting around. It was getting late , so we backtracked along the shore of Chilliwack Lake to pavement at the north end of the lake, where we stopped to air the tires back up for the hour ride back home, as the sun set on a great day out in nature.
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  21. Here you go Backdoc: Article: Skamania Ordinance2 Date Posted: Nov-18-2006 ORDINANCE NO. 1984-2 PARTIALLY REPEALING AND AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 1969-01 WHEREAS, evidence continues to accumulate indicating the Possible existence within Skamania County a nocturnal primate mammal Variously described as an ape-like creature or sub-species of Homo Sapiens; and WHEREAS, legend, purported recent findings, and spoor support This possibility; and WHEREAS, this creature is generally and commonly known as “Sasquatch”, “Yeti”, “Bigfoot”, or “Giant Hairy Ape”, all of which terms may be hereinafter be used interchangeably; and WHEREAS, publicity attendant upon such real or imagined findings And other evidence have resulted in an influx of scientific investigators as well as casual hunters, most of which are armed with lethal weapons; and WHEREAS, the absence of specific national and state laws restricting the taking of specimens has created a dangerous state of affairs within this county in regard to firearms and other deadly devices used to hunt the Yeti and poses a clear and present danger to the safty of the well-being persons living or traveling within the boundries of this county as well as to the Giant Hairy Apes themselves; and WHEREAS, previous County Ordinance No. 1969-01 deemed the slaying of such creature to be a felony (punishable by 5 years in prison) and may have exceeded the jurisdictional authority of that Board of County Commissioners; now, therefore BE IT HEREBY ORDAINED BY THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS OF SKAMANIA COUNTY that a portion of Ordinance No. 1969-1, deeming the slaying of Bigfoot to be a felony punishable by 5 years in prison, is hereby repealed and in its stead the following sections are enacted: SECTION 1. Sasquatch Refuge. The Sasquatch, Yeti, Bigfoot, or Giant Hairy Ape are declared to be endangered species of Skamania County and there is hereby created a Sasquatch Refuge, the boundaries of which shall be co-extensive with the boundaries of Skamania County. SECTION 2. Crime-Penalty. From and after the passage of this ordinance the premeditated, willful, or wanton slaying of Sasquatch shall be unlawful and shall be punishable as follows: (a) If the actor is found to be guilty of such a crime with malice aforethought, such act shall be deemed a Gross Misdemeanor. (b) If the act is found to be premeditated and willful or wanton but without malice aforethought, such act shall be deemed a Misdemeanor. (c) A gross misdemeanor slaying of Sasquatch shall be punishable by 1 year in the county jail and a $1,000.00 fine, or both. (d) The slaying of Sasquatch which is deemed a misdemeanor shall be punishable by a $500.00 fine and up to 6 months in the county jail, or both. SECTION 3. Defense. In the prosecution and trail of any accused Sasquatch killer the fact that the actor is suffering from insane delusions, diminished capacity, or that the act was the product of a diseased mind, shall not be a defense. SECTION 4. Humaniod/Anthropoid. Should the Skamania County Coroner determine any victim/creature to have been humanoid the Prosecuting Attorney shall persue the case under existing laws pertaining to homicide. Should the coroner determine the victim to be an anthropoid (ape-like creature) the Prosecuting Attorney shall proceed under the terms of this ordinance. BE IT FUTHER ORDAINED that the situation existing constitutes an emergency and such this ordinance shall become effective immediately upon its’ passage. REVIEWED this 2nd day of April, 1984, and set for a public hearing on the 16th day of April, 1984, at 10:30 o’clock A.M. Note: Became law on April 16th 1984. Note that this was reviewed on April 2nd. Maybe an April Fool's joke. The first DNA sample that was sent to the FBI for analysis was submitted on April 1st. Be alert. Section 1 is fluffy foo-foo. And then there is Section 3: SECTION 3. Defense. In the prosecution and trail of any accused Sasquatch killer the fact that the actor is suffering from insane delusions, diminished capacity, or that the act was the product of a diseased mind, shall not be a defense. ( where is the fun in that? ) I would have thought that 'insane delusions', 'diminished capacity' and 'diseased mind' would cover all the bases. And section 4 deals with homicide. Don't even think of dragging the body across county lines. Back in the 90's, a warm and fuzzy attempt was made to make Sasquatch the Washington State animal / mammal. Did not fly.
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  22. On what grounds would you charge a motorist whose vehicle struck and killed a dodo, or passenger pigeon, or Carolina parakeet?
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  23. Love the topic of Bigfoot. There is a lot of evidence of them. However elusive, hope they can be verified and protected.
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  24. So my wife and I went to the "Sensing Sasquatch" exhibit today at the High Desert Museum near Bend,Oregon. It wasn't much but it showed the spiritual side of it from several Native views. Featured Native artists had quotes near their work, and this one struck me. Honestly, how foolish am I for never considering that anyone... besides the feds...would actively seek to destroy evidence to protect the species? I guess i was so blinded by my notion that most everyone...besides the feds... actually would like the existence of these creatures proven. Thoughts?
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  25. Hi from Canada! I've been interested in Sasquatch ever since I came across a picture of the Patterson-Gimlin film in Ripley's Believe It Or Not book in the late 2000's. I joined the forums today because I wanted to find information on a specific case that involved a sighting at a casino in Concho, Oklahoma.
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  26. Hello from South Florida. I’ve come to seek a deeper understanding of the topic and learn from those of you with lived experience. The notion that there’s something so grand thriving just beyond the boundaries of our society fascinates me to no end. I’m thrilled to be here and intend to listen and learn. JJ
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  27. I say i think they're doing alright as the sightings and evidence keep coming. I would think the things you mentioned would impact them a bit. But i would think they are fairly adaptable and do migrate to better areas for food and cover. Perhaps, if others act as this one Native lady does, they find forest on restricted Tribal lands to be the best refuge as they know "hunters" are not welcome. And if they are pretty much left alone by the indigenous peoples...it'd be ideal.
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  28. Keep an eye out for Predators. Seriously, the terrain could be a caldera / meteor strike hole. And when Mazama blew up, all kinds of chaos rained down on Oregon. For mineral prospecting I purchased maps for geology, gravity anomalies and magnetic anomalies. There is a magnetic reversal location in the Cascades of Washington. Gravity is not a constant value. No, we are not going to float away.......yet. The easiest gravity anomaly to post here is about sea mounts in the ocean. Satellites that measure sea surface height have determined that sea surface height above sea mounts is lower than surrounding areas. Gravity influences sea surface height close to shore also. My point is that when we assume that we are in a 'normal' constant environment, we can encounter 'high weirdness'. There is no such thing as a routine hike. Analog is good. Trail marking can be laid out with relatively cheap surveyor tape. If you are green, biodegradable surveyor tape is available. Between Washington and Oregon, I am not sure what area has more high weirdness. Mt. Baker has Jurassic era rocks.
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  29. When GPSs first became available, I was using mine on the back side of the mountain near Three Finger Jack in the Oregon Cascades. I was using it to get back to our hike in campsite. I had never been there before or used my GPS in the real world scenario. I was following the arrow of the GPS back to camp and started noticing that something wasn't right. Turns out I was losing satellite connection off and on. The unit didn't have an indicator that this was happening. It was having me go in all sorts of directions and got me thoroughIy lost. Then used my compass and map to get back to the trail and then to the campsite. I never trust gadgets. I use them, but I have a back up plan. Always.
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  30. Barring a skilled pal to show you some ropes, a good place to start if inclined to venture out is a book on basic wilderness navigating with map and compass (learn about local declination), spend a bit of time practicing in an open field, park or somewhere known. Then pick up a good topo or DeLorme gazetteer for your area/state and find a suitable locale for investigating. If you can find a "boxed" region between a lake/pond, mountain or woods road to explore, knowing that if you become disoriented you walk to the perimeter-- lake which you know is E or the mountain/hill base you know is W, or woods road looping around from N-S etc. I've often used this strategy bushwhacking up in the N ME woods, 5000 sq miles of desolate working forest, unmapped logging spurs that go nowhwere etc, if I get it wrong, I could be bushwhacking for days through swamps and balsam thicket, war zone of blowdowns. I started with just map and compass but when the woods are so thick, one can only take a bearing out to 50' -- there is a lot of room for error, and I've made them, great fun, 10 minutes of really knowing you're alive-- til re-oriented! I've wised up in my old age, carry a back-up gps and plb now. I don't rely on the former and prefer NEVER to use the latter. But for starting out, that tech is good reassurance, maybe enough to override concerns and get out there, just don't get lazy with learning the basic skills and become reliant on battery powered gizmos. Good luck, have fun, stay out of the news! https://www.exotac.com/products/essential-wilderness-navigation-a-real-world-guide-to-finding-your-way-safely-in-the-woods-with-or-without-a-map-compass-or-gps https://www.mhprofessional.com/the-essential-wilderness-navigator-how-to-find-your-way-in-the-great-outdoors-second-edition-9780071361101-usa
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  31. We have no way to quantify if they are doing well or not. But I am sure the loss of habitat along the I5 corridor, the loss of salmon runs, the Mt. St. Helen’s eruption, etc have all had impacts on their population. It would be my hope that if the species is recognized by science that it would be Federally protected.
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  32. I am not comparing Sasquatches to Gorillas in any way other than endangered species being pulled back from the brink of extinction because of public support. I could have used a Grizzly Bear instead or a “save the whales” campaign. The point is is that cryptids don’t get funding or land set aside for them. Real endangered species in recent times do!
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  33. Yeah, it's stagnated a bit. I've been into this subject close around 40 years now... watched and read most of what's available, probably multiple times by now. I don't see much need anymore in watching the ones in it for money like tv shows, books etc since imo, BF is worth more as a mystery. If the mystery is solved after the 1st flurry of attention then it's no big deal and there goes the cash stream/ trickle from viewers/ readers after the "new" wears off. Kind of like when the" gubmint" acknowledged UFOs , the world barely blinked. If that had happened in the 70s or 80s it would've been much bigger news. What does fan the BF flame now , however, is the recurring reports from private individuals with nothing to gain, a reputation to lose yet still come forward because they saw something that left them with more questions than answers. Those are the people ,if they're willing, to talk to or read up on and you wouldn't need big budget outdoor gear to do that.
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  34. Start off small. Go out for a solo camping trip for a night or two. Set up a base camp and do some light pack day trips. You can use a can of spray paint to mark your path so you don't get lost. Add things to your kit each time. Get a gps mapping app or a garmin and use it on walks around your neighborhood before you try it outdoors. I am lucky to have a friend who is a mapping and route finding whiz, who I actually met from this forum. I realized after going out with him how much I need to learn about that before I can do long distance solo excursions safely. When I was getting into backpacking and getting out in remote wilderness, I probably looked like a woman going on an overnight trip, holding 3 suitcases. Each time when I got home, I pulled the things out that I didn't use and didn't take them on my next trip. I've whittled my pack/supplies down quite a bit. What state do you live in? Depending on where you live, and I would contend that most states are this way, you can find really remote dispersed camping without having to go that far from you car. You don't need a gun unless you are going to be around grizzlies, so don't let a lack of firearms training stop you. Bear spray actually works. We have lived as wild men for longer than we have been civilized and the skills you need are innate. You have the knowledge biologically hardwired into your dna. When I go into the forest, it might take an hour or so, but at some point my senses turn on and I hear the sounds more clearly and feel very at home. I would assume this is the result of unplugging from the grid and eliminating the world of shiny distractions that surround us in the concrete world we inhabit. Tap into your primitive self. I promise, it's in there somewhere and probably a lot closer to the surface than you are giving yourself credit for.
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  35. This thread goes back 6+ years. Some here have shared a lot, also GuyinIndiana has shared some truly wild vocals. A few years ago I shared a short clip of what sounded like a male and female exchange some distance away. I haven't been recording in a long time, but it is easy and fun to see results, although analysis is time-consuming. I like Jim Sherman's work a lot, among others. LordCryptid - YouTube
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  37. Excellent post. The great outdoors is to be enjoyed. Whatever motivation is needed to get one outside is a great reason. My daughter goes out frequently with her group to camp,hike and search for the mythical beasts. I highly encourage her.
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  38. Excellent suggestions to be sure from everyone. It's not like I am a novice or completely inept. Just not equipped for it and am aware of my limitations. I enjoy camping and being in the woods, but I am sure if i took off on my own, I'd end up on the 11 o'clock news after having wasted tax payer dollars for the search party. I'm looking to get a few of my pals who know their way around the hills to join me for a weekend.
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  39. Believe me, I'd LOVE to be one of those "go outdoors and search" types. Problem is.... well, just not equipped for it. I was not brought up in an outdoorsy household. Oh I've been hunting and camping, but I have no clue how to operate a 4 wheeler or own a truck. I get lost going down a one way street. My knowledge of firearms is not extensive...thus, why I stick with my Ruger .22. My cousins are all avid outdoorsmen and women. But, my dad didn't have the time to take me out as a kid and raise me in such a way. Heck, right now I don't even own a pocket knife. So all of my study is from my office and keeping an eye to the sides of the road when we travel over the mountain passes. Bit of a lost cause I guess...lol.
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  40. I was on a BFRO expedition in California very near where the Sierra Sounds were recorded. I heard similar chatter while out there and others reported samurai chatter as well. Apparently they are still doing it out there in that area
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  41. Love it!! He captures what I feel out there beautifully, and the guitar melody fits perfectly.
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  42. I got a text from my buddy Bill (MagniAesir on here) on Friday asking our usual research group (Magni, Thomas, Alohacop, and myself) to meet up for an outing on Sunday morning, so of course I agreed immediately. At 0800 Sunday morning I arrived at the designated spot on Hwy 7, where we all gassed up and headed for the nearby watershed where I had my sighting many years ago. It was raining, but the forecast was for a break in the rain by about 0930. The weatherman LIED!! The rain intensified through the morning, so we continued to the end of the road system near the headwater lake, where there is a rough lean-to shelter where we could sit and talk for a while before calling it a day. By the time we were heading out, what had been small trickles of water down the rocks were now waterfalls, and in places some football size rocks had been washed down the hills onto the roadway. It was definitely time to get out of Dodge! It made for a short day, but we made plans for future trips later in the Spring. The convoy at the shelter. 2 new Rubicons and my 18 year old Hummer This creek is usually a trickle through a boulder field, now a gushing torrent Run off down what is normally a dry rock face
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  43. Ewok boots perhaps?
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  44. Hi all. Eric from Willow Creek, Ca. I’ve been interested in Bigfoot since I was young. I grew up on the Coast of Humboldt County and spent years camping in the Klamath Mountains with my family. I’ve lived in Willow Creek for 21 years. I retired from law enforcement 3 years ago. I feel fortunate to have been able to patrol the nooks and crannies of both Humboldt and Trinity Counties for 17 of my 27 year career. I currently volunteer at the China Flat (Bigfoot) Museum and thoroughly enjoy sharing the history of Bigfoot as it pertains to Willow Creek, the Klamath Mountains, and Northwest Ca.
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  45. Did he have a pipe?
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  46. After several weeks of nasty weather, we finally got a nice weekend here in the Fraser Valley of BC, so I got out for a short field trip this afternoon. About 2 weeks ago, we got hit with a record one day snow fall of between 25 an40 cm (10 to 17in), followed by 10 days of rain and higher than normal temps, so I wanted to see how much snow was left in the local mountains. I met Thomas and Magni for lunch, but they had other plans for the rest of the day, so I headed to a nearby mountain for a careful solo run. I needn't have worried, since there were only very small patches of snow left in the shadiest spots. I reached the highest point of the logging road system on Murdo Mt., hitting only one 10 yard stretch of snow in the same spot where I was stranded for hours at this time last year. I scouted the little bit of snow, and every wet patch I came across for tracks, but found nothing at all. It was a nice sunny afternoon, but the wind was strong and cold at the peak, so my forays out of the truck were brief. The daylight is now lasting a little longer, so twilight came at about 5, and I headed home for supper. I finally got my computer to talk to my new phone, so I did get a few pics to show for the day.
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  47. Whatever they are, they're programmed like every other animal with instincts. I've seen deer do some truly stupid things, but in the woods, they know without thought when something moves. The eyes trigger the neurons to fire straight to the muscles without going through the wrinkly stuff at all. You do the same thing with snakes and spiders. It takes training to not immediately jump when surprised. I've always assumed they exist in small enough numbers, and we just aren't putting that many cameras out, and they don't have to see a camera to sense it. I've always assumed they simply freeze, study the situation, and divert around if they see, smell, hear anything unusual. I can hear a trail camera click, I can see the red illuminator, and my hearing is wrecked from decades of drumming and driving loud cars without hearing protection... But I can head the clicks. My vision is terrible, astigmatism, floaters, somewhat color blind but I can see the red lights. And if there's only a few hundred of these things, a million cameras in the woods aren't going to see one.
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