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typical word play in the original post. not blaming the OP, but I am blaming his sources for fear mongering. opening 112M acres for logging doesn't mean that 112M acres will be logged. Today, we log anywhere from 2M to 10M acres a year in the US. The directive from President Trump is to increase logging by 25% domestically. That means 500K to 2.5M acres will be logged out of the 112M acres. We are talking about .45% to 2.23% of the 112M acres being logged. We have 823M acres of forest in the US. When you look at the amount of total forest impact, we are talking about to .06% to .30% of the forest being logged annually under this new rule. Is this really a sky is falling moment? NOT EVEN CLOSE. It is more whipped up hysteria from the true enemy of the people, the media.

The federal forests around me need thinning badly. Fires get worse every year. I welcome this news.

I set out a couple of audio recorders close to the 2013 Teepee structure, and I am thrilled to say that I have captured the sound of a tree hitting the ground followed by unknown voices speaking unknown words.

That is correct. But I'm quite confident that there are conspiracies within government to ignore the existence of Sasquatches, and this position extends to active discouragement of discovery on occasion in certain circumstances.

This !! They don't have to run any more disinformation other than infer that witnesses are not mentally well. And that will have repercussions in your life. Personally and professionally. This would include persons in the government itself.

This seems to be a hot topic in the Bigfoot world. The answer depends on what people think of as "The Government" You can predict the answer to your Q when you know some other perspectives on what people think about other topics involving the government. The answer is: NO The government doesn't care. If they had proof of Bigfoot's existence parts of the government would awaken and care only to the extent of their boundaries and mission. For instance, the IRS would still care ZERO while the DNR might create parameters on forbidden hunting. Local sheriffs might have concerns of safety. Biology researchers might concern themselves about what makes a Bigfoot tick. Maybe military contractors try to lean how Bigfoot is so stealthy. Remember that old CIA saying: Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead. There is no Bigfoot secret. Bigfoot either exist or it does not. if so, some parts of our government either know or don't know or care. If they know, why would that part of government keep it quiet or feel the need to?

That map of human migration has one element missing, and that is pathways made accessible by lowered sea levels during periods of glaciation. Drops of 200-400 feet have been reported for various ice ages, and these could result in significant expansions of habitable/traversable land. Its quite possible that much of man's prehistoric settlements could have taken advantage of these exposed coastal zones, and that untold habitations and artifacts, evidences of lost cultures could well be discovered within these now Oceanic sites.

From your own posts. In your Teepee structures post, you say in the first post that they are "created for another purpose ... [p]erhaps as a simple way of showing how many of their kind [the forest people] are in a particular location. You later stated that "the forest people" do not place these structures in there more secret living space, but use them at the boundaries of their living space. From roughly 0:45 to 1:00 minute of that video (discussing the 2013 teepee), you clearly stated your belief that the forest people were individually stacking sticks to provide a headcount of Bigfoot in a given area. In your Hilltop structure thread, you stated that the hilltop structure, "[l]ike the Teepee structure is a sign of where they [the forest people] live...." You labelled your next thread as a fact, stating that "you captured the voices of the forest people knocking over a tree" without qualification.

Actually, that's a misconception that a lot of people make. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence where the evidence should be there. An example of this is medical tests. If someone thinks that they have a disease or infection, then there should be evidence of it. But if the test results shows that there's no signs of the disease or infection, then they don't have the disease or infection.

We will one day admit that the native Americans were correct in their assessment of Sasquatch as a great spirit of the forest, as we have already conceded that the tribal medicine man really did know which plants could cure an ailment. There is a reason that they remain elusive.

I grew up in the PNW. I vividly remember being a school kid from a medium sized city visiting a small logging community in the foothills of the Cascade mountains for a flag football game. This little town was extremely poor. Most of the homes looked like shacks and single wide trailer houses. However, the school was almost new. The kids had brand new uniforms. I would later learn that school provided breakfast, lunch, and a brown bag dinner was the norm in these logging communities. This was long before todays "free lunch" program. Why was the school the only modern, new, and fully functional community support system? Because timber revenues were mandated to the school systems within that county. I am a supporter of sustainable timber harvest for ALL forests. The trees, endangered species, forest critters, and wild hairy people will all be just fine. I also think this new rule shoots a hole in the old theory that forestry practices were shut down by the Feds to secretly protect what some folks call Bigfoot.

Here are some reasons not to leap to the conclusion that a structure encountered in the woods = "Bigfoot." 1) The Great Hill Recreation Area, where this was filmed, is a postage-stamp sized park of 203 acres surrounded by suburbia and typical urban sprawl development. See https://www.trails.actonma.gov/great-hill/ size of the park and your map program of choice for a wider view of the area. 2) No one knows how how much range 1 Bigfoot needs to support itself, but an average New York black bear weighing from 160 to 300 lbs. needs 35 lbs of food per day to sustain itself. The average home range for black bears are 1-15 square miles (female) and 8-60 square miles (male) or 640 to 9600 acres for a female black bear. Thus, this park doesn't have the necessary area to support a (presumably) smaller animal. (I gathered this information some time ago from www.wikipedia.com and the links provided therein, and species-specific preservation/hunting websites; the entire chart of 13 large animals and human hunter/gatherers is uploaded somewhere on the forums.) 3) The branch structure looks to be only 20-30 yards of a trail (a blue trail marker is visible from 12:01 to 12:07, right before the camera pans to the left and first shows the branch structure, and again at 13:22. This is consistent with the Great Hill trail map, available at the website above. Even within the park, this is not a remote area. 4) Dead trees that fall between the forks of trees, like the ones that form the main supports on the right (looking at the mouth of the structure) are not that uncommon in nature. Kids (define loosely at 10-16 years old) making secret hideouts from their parents is also not unheard of. Its a great place to hangout and drink beers snuck out of the home frig or to neck (or so I've been told). This also could be a community hangout (again, look at the dense suburbs in the area) where people added to the "shelter" over time. 5) Setting aside the Hockamock swamp area to the southeast, this area of Massachusetts is a void as far as reported encounters go. There are 63 reported encounters in the state between 1861 and 2016 if you add up the reports from 9 different organizations/books/researchers.* Middlesex County, where this park is located, has zero reported encounters. The closest encounter to this park was in the 1960s, over 15 miles away. * Numbers subject to change as more research is done. Not claiming that this structure is natural. However, nothing supports bypassing more likely explanations (human action) to leap to the more unlikely explanation. That being said, nothing here should dissuade anyone from spending time in the woods and enjoying the fresh air and off chance that you'll encounter Bigfoot.

You’re completely confused. We are trying to get to PROOF…. You have the cart in front of the horse. How are we supposed to get to the truth with documents like the one below? Bigfoot, UFOs, the JFK assassination, etc. How long have we been trying to get to the bottom of it? And your honestly with a straight face tell me that the government has been transparent with American citizens??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

No, that’s just…..criminy sakes…….never mind. Have you met Sasfooty?

This is a volume enhanced 2 to 3 minute .wav file from the original .mp3 file which was 2 hours long. This is just about the same size as the audio used in the video. Hope this helps. treefall.WAV

As someone in this industry, I agree fully and you’ve explained it perfectly. Another excellent post, lots of common sense on this board!!!

Sure. It used to be if you saw a bigfoot sticker on a car, you could pretty well bet it was either another researcher or someone with deep interest, maybe personal experience. Today bigfoot is the equivalent of a pink flamingo on someone's lawn. There is no stopping cultural absurdity. Stuff is not in your control or mine. All we can do is manage ourselves.

Boots on the ground observation here says his claim is correct.

I know that area but it's a populated area that gets a lot of traffic and just people in general walking and partying around there . How a clan of bigfoots could hide out and travel there without being seen seems a stretch . This is Acton MA right around 15 miles from the outskrits of Boston. It's cool you are looking though and just getting out in general and not trying to find them from sitting on your couch in front of a computer screen . It's healthy to just hike around . I do it with my pup all the time .

They know where the city limits are. Fowl play.

I bet I could too…..😎

After days of heavy rain, we finally got a nice sunny weekend, so my son Steve and I headed out for the high country. I wanted to go to a waterfall that I'd never seen before, about 4 hours from home. We set off at 11am after fueling up the Hummer and drove about 2 hours up the Fraser Canyon to Boston Bar, where we turned off Hwy 1 onto the Nahatlatch River FSR, and continued for another40 km to Grizzly Falls. The road had been severely washed out in our 2021 "atmospheric river" floods and landslides, but has since been made passable, though still a bit sketchy in places. Along the way we passed through a very large stretch of the valley that was burned out 2 years ago, but eventually got past that into the forest again, with nice views of the Nahatlatch River and lake, finally reaching the falls we were seeking. The sight and the sound made the bouncing on the potholed road worth while, and we had lunch in the cool windblown spray from the cascade. We saw no large animals along the 80 km run up and down the logging road, but did see some grouse and a beautiful red tailed hawk in flight right beside us for about 30 seconds.

Well in my mind? It has to be something with opposable thumbs. In other words it’s not a Bear or an Osprey nest. Or any known animal. Dr. Mayor got chimp dna under a tree structure in Kentucky. What that means?🤷‍♂️ But If we follow Occam’s razor? With over 300 million Homo Sapiens walking around the USA? That’s a lot of opposable thumbs. I think the most prudent approach right now is to note these things. But not put too much stock in them. And if you can take DNA samples? Do it. I will say that this tree structure is absolutely a shelter, something is getting under cover. It’s not a teepee structure that would serve no purpose of getting out of the weather. Does Sasquatch need shelter? 🤷‍♂️

I had a visit from an old buddy this morning that I hadn't seen in about 10 years, though we still phone each other regularly. We used to be neighbours and often hunted together, until I moved up the Fraser Valley, over an hour from the old 'hood. He took me to breakfast in his new EV (Chevy Bolt), then I took him for a ride in my new Mitsubishi Outlander. After that, we piled in the old Hummer, and headed for the bush. I took him up the Norrish Creek FSR where we used to hunt black bear and coast blacktail deer, and of course where I had my sasquatch sighting back in '79 or so. No squatches sighted today, even though we went high enough up the valley to be in snow deep enough to rub the skid plates of the H3. We saw no tracks of anything in the snow that had fallen just last night at that elevation. It was still a great day out there with an old friend. Sorry, no pics today, but there's lots from that road in some of my previous posts.

1) If Sasquatches exist, reporting data alone demands they have existed on Fort Lewis, WA, at some point since the creation of Ft. Lewis as an Army post in 1917 (just 27 years after the end of the American Indian Wars). Reporting data strongly indicates that Ft. Lewis features an enduring population of these creatures passing through on a regular basis, and a century ago might well have had a decent resident population. There are documented reports of soldiers seeing them, and even shooting at them, as well as civilians on and around the post seeing them. Pierce County pretty much has the highest report counts in the BRFO database for the entire continent. The U.S. Army has every tool and asset necessary to "catch" the strongest physical evidence of these creatures, even back in the early days of the post, especially after a half century of chasing Indians around the continent. They also have the ability to do so secretly, both from the knowledge of the public, other government agencies, and even from the knowledge of most of the soldiers and officers on post. 2) The Army has a cultural attitude of superiority over their environment and informational security.......to the point of paranoia. It has been this way since even before the beginning of the U.S. Army's existence when it was still the British Army. If field commanders have Sasquatches running around their facilities, reports will reach people with authority, and some of them WILL utilize their assets to find out what is going on, then they WILL report their findings to their superiors. If told to stop their activities and keep their mouths shut, there is more than a fair chance that they will do as instructed. 3) Especially since the mid-1960's (50 years after Ft. Lewis was founded, and more than 50 years ago from today), the environmental movement is plenty of reason why a post commander would keep the existence of sasquatches downplayed, if not actively covering their existence up, especially on Army lands. There are also numerous other potential reasons, especially if they have determined that these creatures are primitive humans (as the Indians claim), having gone through Indian Wars for some 500 years now. If Sasquatches exist, some within the U.S. Army know about it. You can take that to the bank.

Norseman, game cam pics much appreciated. Joe here

Yeah, this was my initial thought. Though it’s not quite as rapid as I tend to hear.

I agree with this POV. I certainly believe Bigfoot is real, but is incredibly rare. I would say 90%+ of sightings are deliberate hoaxes or misidentifications. Most sounds in the woods can be explained by something else. And should be approached skeptically and assumed to be something else unless all other potential answers are eliminated.

Felix if you not finding any tracks they are not there no matter how much you want to believe Bigfoot are in that area .. It's just not possible for them to be foraging and hunting in an area and not leave any tracks .

I don't think you are agreeing. Those are different statements. "Someone in government knowing" is different than government as a whole knowing. I'm fairly confident of both the truth of the first and the falsehood of the second. MIB

I like it. the volume of food matches what I found and I think that a group of bigfoot (adult male, adult female, one juvenile and maybe one infant) would similarly strip mine and area. That's why I think they then shift their habitat be 50-100 miles and start working a new region for a while. The only think I can think of that doesn't match is that you would expect farmers/ranchers/orchard operators to notice that much loss to animals.

shut up poopy head

Bye!

You’re the one who is fringe. No one thinks that the government lying to the American people is fringe anymore. Your clinging to a belief that the government with a TRILLION dollar per year defense budget cannot detect a Bigfoot walking from BC into Washington based on INCOMPETENCE.🤣🤣🤣

then I have to side with Norse here. you seem really green and have some catching up to do. enjoy, the journey is long and interesting.

He gave you proof in the form of government officials testifying about their experiences and they have evidence. you just seem to think that there is going to be some kind of UAP style motion around this and you are pretending that it is the only valid way to prove it to you. I think your argument is in bad faith. You just signed up here and you are already becoming antagonistic. Seems like you are trolling. Too many new accounts being contentious recently. go find your proof then. nobody owes you anything. enjoy your search.

yes, I've run into so many humans who go out and build structures. its just so common it blows my mind. nobody would ever build these and photograph them just for an article. that would never happen, would it? crazy. you have 5 posts, all are cunty. buzz off.

Thanks so much for this. I watched the whole thing. The most credible witness ever. These two guys are the real deal.

I have a 100 percent guaranteed solution. We need a body!

Okay .....dude I'm not going to ruin your high

Hi everyone, I enjoy the outdoors. I'm here to get different perspectives from others whether I agree, disagree, believe, or don't believe it.

you mean to tell me a show with the actor from willow creek is more production that science? Be honest with us here - is the dark shadow lurking around the edge of their camp you? I bet you could get Dr. Mayor's autograph some other way.

yes, I thought so myself. I didn't expect to find it, and its so close to the Teepee structure. Like the Teepee structure is a sign of where they live, and the hilltop structure was close to being a legit shelter. Or its just kids making forts, but I've never seen kids doing that.

Wr found one snow track, very old. In a straight line, and about 5 feet apart. Interesting discussion.

^^^^^ The role of the parking heater can not be underestimated. Diesel and a flame, all night.

Found massive mushrooms today!

Back tonight