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Took a trip through the woods in my Jeep from Idaho over into Washington via Skyline Drive. Beautiful country and just a 15-mile drive from my house. A bit of rain recently, so always looking for tracks. Actually bought two tubs of plaster of Paris for making casts. I've come across a couple of possible tracks in years past, but never was prepared. Now I am. Also added a fun decal to the side of my ambulance RV. And I started the conversion of my utility trailer to an "overlanding" trailer to tow behind my Jeep. It will haul an ATV along with my camping gear while providing a platform for an inflatable tent. I installed fold-up kitchen platform, fuel can, and will be adding a solar shower, water storage, gear storage box, RV lithium battery, solar panel, and inverter. It should let me go camping deep into the woods where the ambulance and Ram 2500 can't go.

For a long time, my best places to go involved a secluded pond. Wood knocks, audible movement around the pond, and red eyeshine. They work for me because people are less likely to be there especially when it is not easy to get to. I've decided to get an ultralight canoe, or more properly called a packboat. Short and light enough to be portaged. Get out on the water in the dark and silently paddle then stop, drift, and listen. Use the thermal to scan the shoreline. It enables you to get to spots on the pond quickly that would not be possible if trekked by foot. Moreover, the flashlight and noise while walking would immediately give away your position. I'll order in the next month or so but won't get it until next year. Looking forward to it.

Up by Priest lake on a tight jeep trail for part of it. Bald Mountain area. Saw deer and rubs and a owl. Tamarack is all turning yellow.

We lack photographs. We have pictures of her son. Based on those I think we have purposefully re-imagined what Zana looked like from the descriptions to fit an agenda rather than to fit truth.

NVM

So I was thinking, why does it wonder off through the muck barefoot, get to fresh water, and then come back to drier land. Two different times, same behavior, different side of the lake. Of course, to get a drink of water. I have tracked them for over 20 years in this region though tree breaks but never foot prints because of the floor vegetation. Pretty cool. Anyway, have not posted in a while, hope you found the time spent putting it together for you worthwhile.

It qualifies for 'hard side camping'. And you can watch TV. A red ambulance RV must have massive room. Does your inverter allow you to operate a microwave oven? "Parking heaters" are available for diesel powered vehicles and boats. I know of 2 brands common on boats and vehicles: Espar and Webasto. Both are over $1k and permanently installed. There is a member of this forum that has a parking heater on his diesel Land Rover. Very toasty warm. Another way is the portable unit placed on the ground with gravity feed of diesel from an elevated fuel jug. Winter is here, no need to subject your dog to a cold ambulance. Norseman might have some input in the way of dealing with his big rigs.

It’s entirely possible. I know they have 86’d Viking settlement archeological sites in Canada…… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanfield_Valley https://artsfile.ca/ottawa-archaeologist-says-her-research-on-vikings-in-canada-being-disparaged/

Spent the night deep in the Idaho woods last night about 50 miles from home. This is where I found my first possible BF sign; a tree twisted and broke over 8' above the ground. This was about 10 years ago. Today... I forgot how creepy this spot is with virtually no animal activity or sound. I had a horrible time getting a fire started and ended up having to use an old Indian trick by wrapping a paper towel around a stick and dipping it into the fuel tank of my ambulance, lol. Temperature was around freezing when I went inside to watch TV. Had some odd things happen. First was hearing something hit the side of my ambulance from the direction of the twisted tree. Very light. Maybe a pine cone? No trees that it could have fallen from and nothing on the ground. Wet and soggy ground and dusty side of the ambulance. No tracks, no scuff marks, nothing. An hour later, heard what I thought was thunder outside. Looked outside and clear sky with nothing but stars. About another hour later and my dog began growling for no apparent reason. Got the shotgun with slugs out and opened the door to scan with the weapon light. Arlo declined to go outside, so I stayed in as well. No other incidents. Woke up a few hours later and it was very cold outside and inside! Packed up camp the next morning and scouted for elk for my brother on the way back to civilization. Beautiful day and saw a lot of country, but no BF sign. I walked this moist dirt road for about two miles and found hundreds of fresh deer and elk tracks, but no BF tracks.

When I worked for the Forest Service back in 1974 and 1975, I had no concept of what the agency's stance was on bigfoot. While on the job, if I had a sighting, I would have reported it to my boss who was higher up in the district office of the Rogue River National Forest of Medford, Oregon. He probably would have told me to not report it to the wildlife officer since this would put my job in jeopardy. My annual job performance review was coming so I would not have reported it to those higher up in the chain of command. Since my annual review was coming up, and if I reported the sighting to the wildlife officer, I probably would have been fired for disobeying my immediate boss. I would guess the Forest Service has not changed their stance presently, and they call bigfoot a mythical creature for a reason. This means they are not real, so they have no effect on Forest Service policy. Work someplace else if you don't understand the policy.

^ This. ^ Moreover, even within certain agencies (like the Army), few have the odds of encountering these creatures. But some do. I've used the example of Ft. Lewis, Washington. It's right on ground that is surrounded with regular sightings, is actually on ground that looks like a migration/movement area, has plenty of recorded sightings itself, and has been an Army post for over a hundred years. If sasquatches exist, and if that area is as density rich as reports indicate, and with the Army being there for a century, there are people within the Army family who know about it. I was an Army soldier (engineer), and then an Army civilian on Ft. Richardson, Alaska, for 35 years. I worked for the engineering organization that literally owned the post. We signed off buildings and lands to commanding officers of various units, but we were ultimately responsible for them (and we held the tenants responsible for proper use and damages). I was an "outside" engineer. Roads, grounds, railroads, bridges, etc. We had an environmental branch which included a Natural Resources Officer, who was responsible for wildlife. He set the hunting regs on post in cooperation with the state fish and game agency. Ft. Lewis has/had the exact same organizational structure. If sasquatches exists, they exist there at least in movement through the place leaving sign and encounters with soldiers and Range Control. Eventually, the Natural Resources Officer is going to know and share that knowledge with the Public Works Director, who will then share it with the Commanding General's Chief of Staff. Where the knowledge goes from there is certain to vary. But my experience is that's how it looks at the lower, local end. I'm also pretty well versed in what we call "unofficial lines of communication". All of us civilians, unlike both the enlisted and commissioned active duty personnel, worked there for decades. We didn't come for a three year tour, and then rotated out. We owned the place. Literally. And we worked together for decades. We were like brothers and sisters. We still are. And we talk to each other. Some word gets around. Some is hush-hush. Depends on what it is, and who you trust. On Ft. Rich, we talked openly about the wildlife. Those of us in the exterior trades and activities had regular contact with the bears, wolves, and moose. Lots of it. And we shared those experiences with others. If I saw a sasquatch, would I have talked? Yup........to a few folks. Certainly not all.

Based on my reading of hundreds if not 1000+ reports, I am a firm believer that the Federal Government as a whole fully understands BF and for reasons you can only guess feels it is best not to reveal them and even protect them where possible. For instance, what are the legal or even constitutional issues if they are some form of relic hominem? Even worse, what if they have an alien origin (which I do not believe but there are plenty of BF/UFO related reports). I have seen them and ran in to them multiple times over the last 30 years in NC and NJ (and may have a den/hunting blind build by them 100 yards from my back yard) and no longer care to get proof of their existence. I doubt I would reach for my camera or phone if one posed for me. Just leave them alone like they leave me alone when wandering through the woods.

In terms of the impact of the arrival of europeans, you can't diminish the probable damage done by the foreign antigens, which may very well have killed off the the vast majority of sasquatch, at least those within close enough proximity to the natives as they became afflicted. The Europeans practice of laying blankets infected with yellow fever and the like across trails could have transmitted these diseases to the Bigfoot just as they did to the native americans. It may have taken longer to pass between them due to their more widespread distribution. There's estimates of 90% mortality rates amongst natives (even higher in south america) if this applied to the sasquatch, perhaps their rebound was slow, then as whites killed off the majority of upper level predators, and deer populations began expanding, eventually to the point of overabundance, then the sasquatch had plenty of prey, little predator competition, and more empty land to move into, reclaiming old turf, thus expanding their numbers once again.

When I was younger, I had a dream Landscape Architect job with the Forest Service designing a large RV campground and a recreation park along the Applegate River in southern Oregon that took a year to do. I'm 79 now and want to be truthful about memories. After this was completed, my job became irritating and boring. No more parks were on the horizon, and my new job was to fool the public about logging! It was a clever plan that I've kept secret until now. My job was deception and to drive the main national forest highways and mark all the forest areas on a map that one can see from the road. I also marked forest areas behind mountains that were not seen. Can you guess where the plan for public deception is headed? The hillsides marked as unseen while driving the highway were going to be clear cut of all trees which upsets the public because Bamby the deer's forest was going to wiped out with logging and clear cutting. The refreshing forest seen from the highway were going to be preserved and all is good in nature land ................ so the public thinks. Needless to say, I became out raged, quit, and went to a different landscape architect job. My point is deception by the federal government that is also taking place with bigfoot. The forest service hires credentialed wildlife biologist and how many bigfoot reports have you read from one of these biologist? They spend hours driving remote forest roads, and hike on trails and a few of them must have seen bigfoot. Lots of people see them. I have two friends that saw one and I saw one too. See my eye witness sketch is below. Do some internet searches and find even one report by a forest service biologist that mentions or even focuses on bigfoot. One of the forest service's duties is to study and protect wildlife during logging operations. You as a taxpayer are still being kept in the dark when if comes to bigfoot? How do you feel about this dilemma? What is your opinion? Should I have quit the forest service? Are we being kept in the dark? My sighting is below.

Although this is a video/documentary, I believe the theories this guy advances go beyond the video itself and are worthy of more discussion. His video lays out an interesting argument for Denisovans being the "wild men" of history and of our more modern-day Sasquatch sightings. Some of the information in this video has been talked about here before, but he does an excellent job of tying it all together. He shows how the Denisovan fossil evidence we've gathered so far could point to Sasquatch. He also talks about the historical distribution of wild-man stories matching the speculated range of the Denisovans. Another very interesting topic he presents is the early-man "avoidance" theory. This is where one group of human-species adopts a more primitive or "wild" lifestyle to avoid having to interact with more technologically-advanced groups of "humans." This would lessen the chances of being killed-off or absorbed. Over tens of thousands of years, the more "wild" human-species group would develop enhanced physical characteristics like being, larger, hairier, faster, better night vision, etc. As I said, some of this information has already been discussed in this forum, but this is the first time I've seen one source that links it all together in one theory. Interesting! https://youtu.be/vN9q8ewDQs0?si=Eyi6vE2g2PH2XEJz

Here is an AI summary of the transcript: Opening and framing The speaker, a professional wildlife filmmaker, naturalist and conservationist, says he is risking his career and reputation by disclosing that twelve years ago, in the southern Appalachians, he saw a large, hair-covered, bipedal being in the forest at night. The experience upended his view of reality and sent him on more than ten years of mostly secret research around the world. He says he is not trying to prove such beings exist; he wants to understand what they are, and what that implies about humans. He stresses that he is not an anthropologist, that he may be wrong, and that he invites criticism. He argues that academia ignores the subject and that modern science is compartmentalized across geography, biology, paleoanthropology, archaeology and even consciousness studies, so a full picture requires combining them. The global legend argument He calls "Bigfoot" a laughable name for a phenomenon found on every habitable continent, described consistently across cultures and millennia as bipedal, hair-covered, humanoid beings of varying size. The most common translation of the many names is "wild man": not an animal, but another kind of person. He cites appearances from the Epic of Gilgamesh to the Sistine Chapel, and oral histories of trading and warring with such beings. In his filming travels he asked locals and Indigenous people about wild man legends and heard ancient legends and modern sightings in South and Central America, North America, Australia and Southeast Asia. Two regions stood out. Africa, the birthplace of hominins, has surprisingly few such legends. The Solomon Islands in Oceania have detailed ones, with hair-covered giants and little people, island-specific names and descriptions, and specific caves said to hold living wild men. The data analysis He compiled over 600 records from local newspapers, books, scientific literature and ethnographies, then filtered them to pre-1950 to exclude the influence of the word "Bigfoot" and of jet-age travel spreading stories. A density heat map of the legends shows a stronghold in Oceania and Southeast Asia. He then borrows the logic of human genetic diversity: Africa is the most genetically diverse region because it is the origin, and it holds both the world's shortest and tallest peoples (the Mbuti and the Dinka). Reported wild man sizes range from about 3 feet to over 8 feet, so he mapped height diversity of the legends and found it also peaks in Southeast Asia and Oceania, matching the density map. He concludes the phenomenon likely originated there. The Denisovan connection He frames this within the current "golden age" of paleoanthropology: for most of our history Homo sapiens shared the planet with Neanderthals, Denisovans and other human types, humans have been alone for less than 10% of our existence, interbreeding was widespread, and species boundaries are blurry. Neanderthal admixture was only confirmed in 2010. Reasoning that the most likely candidate for hair-covered bipeds is an extinct hominin, and that the last one to live alongside us was the Denisovans, he overlays his legend maps on a map of Denisovan DNA percentages in modern populations (up to about 6%) and calls it a near-exact match. He says every new fossil and genetic finding has strengthened rather than undermined this idea. Denisovan fossil evidence Denisova Cave (Siberia): a baby molar found in 1984, an unusually large tooth (about 50% bigger than a human's) in 2000, and a finger bone in 2008 that yielded DNA proving a distinct group. The Xiahe mandible from Tibet, found in 1980 and identified in 2019 by proteins, showing massive molars and a robust jaw. The Penghu jaw from Taiwan, identified by paleoproteomics, extending the range to the Chinese coast. The Harbin cranium ("Dragon Man," Homo longhi), with a murky discovery story, confirmed as Denisovan in 2025 through molecular evidence. It is very large and long, with a brain of about 1,420 cc, a heavy brow ridge, deep-set square eye sockets, a flat face, a wide nose, thick facial bones and a wide occipital region for neck muscles. He adds that a skull fragment announced in October 2026 suggests an even larger individual with an estimated 1,800 cc brain, and argues that the one near-complete skull is unlikely to be the largest of the species. Newly announced Penghu leg bones (a femur and a tibia): the largest hominin leg bones ever found, with one individual estimated at about 6'3", a foot taller than other regional humans of the time. He notes they may be male or female, with no genetics to confirm. They were found in tropical latitudes, contrary to Bergmann's rule. Isotope analysis suggests meat consumption at the level of large carnivores, and the researchers proposed that these hominins relied on body size and ability rather than technology for hunting. He compares the skull features to witness descriptions of Sasquatch: a sloping head, heavy brow, wide-set large eyes (most sightings are at night, and he speculates the large orbits may mean night vision), a flat wide face and nose, no visible neck, and large block-like teeth. Genetic legacy and Beringia He explains that Denisovan DNA gave modern humans useful traits. EPAS1 allows high-altitude survival in Tibet and has been called a "super-athlete gene," improving power and sprint performance in some athletes. TBX15 affects fat distribution and metabolism and appears in roughly 65% of Siberians, 89% of Native Americans and nearly 100% of Greenland Inuit, suggesting it helped humans cross Beringia. Other variants affect pathogen immunity, UV protection, hair growth, smell sensitivity and visual contrast. He notes that humans repeatedly failed to leave Africa for 140,000 years, then about 70,000 years ago spread rapidly into Denisovan territory, to Australia within 5,000 to 10,000 years, and into the Americas. If Denisovans had access to the Bering Land Bridge for ten times longer than humans and could survive such environments, he asks why they would not have crossed it. His legend density map, he says, follows a plausible Denisovan dispersal route into North and then South America. He argues that the absence of Denisovan fossils is the same problem as the absence of wild man bones, that isolation from humans would leave no genetic traces, and that reliance on bodies over tools would leave no tool evidence. The hypothesis (explicitly marked as his own) He states that everything up to this point is based on published research, but the way he connects it is his hypothesis. Other archaic humans were displaced and absorbed through competition and interbreeding. The only way a Denisovan lineage could have survived is complete avoidance: total separation from humans and hiding in the wilderness. He suggests they may have foreseen what technology would do to our species and chosen not to participate. To support the contrast, he discusses: Cognitive offloading and the "Google effect." Plato's warning about writing. GPS and declining navigation skills. Digital amnesia, such as people not remembering their children's phone numbers. Human brain size shrinking by up to 10% since the Pleistocene. The fragility of modern society to a power grid failure. He suggests we may have lost abilities with each technological step, perhaps even ones that sound impossible, such as seeing in the dark or exceptional speed. He proposes that Denisovans who avoided technology kept selecting for awareness, memory, movement and senses, so their natural abilities kept sharpening, and he briefly mentions consciousness and parapsychology (remote viewing, telepathy) as a separate frontier not required for the hypothesis. He compares the idea to historical scientific heresies such as Copernicus, Einstein and Wegener, and argues that mainstream science makes some ideas taboo. Conclusion He believes a surviving lineage of Denisovans or Denisovan hybrids, completely isolated from modern humans, may be behind the wild man phenomenon worldwide, and that Sasquatch, Yeren, Almas, the Yeti and other wild men are "another version of us," in some ways more advanced, a branch of humanity that evolved without technology and kept its connection to nature. The hypothesis, he says, does not rule out the view that these are undiscovered primates or paranormal. He raises a scientific problem: standard DNA tests for animal identification examine a small section of DNA, and Denisovan-type samples would be so close to human that they would likely be read as human or contaminated, so past samples may have been discarded and deeper genetic analysis is needed. He says he is convinced thousands of people have had unexplained wilderness experiences and stayed silent, that he cited his research papers in the film and will list them in the description, and that he made the video to encourage others to share their experiences and academics to keep an open mind.

Your getting heated so I will bow out of your thread. All I am saying is that if you ask any paleontologist about human evolution? Tool use is well refined by the time Denisovans show up on scene. Take care! 👍🏼

I believe that this is EXACTLY the argument being made. It's NOT that a theoretical large tribe of Denisovans that had been using tools for thousands of years just collectively voted that it was better for their survival to stop tool use cold-turkey. It's that a very early, isolated group of them never fully-adopted tool use (or hadn't developed it to the level of others), and because of their isolation developed other methods of survival. It also helped them to "avoid" other human-species groups which worked for them.

Perhaps 'reverse evolution' is not exactly the correct term, however, consider this: 'Isolated Relic Populations: As modern humans spread across Asia, small pockets of Denisovans may have been pushed into remote mountains, dense forests, or isolated islands. Living cut off from larger groups, these isolated bands might have experienced changes in behavior or a loss of complex toolmaking skills simply due to smaller group sizes—a phenomenon anthropologists call cultural drift.'

Seems to me that foot structure alone (not to mention predominately bipedal locomotion) ties sasquatches to the homo genus. No other extant apes (Hominidae or Hylobatidae) have feet shaped like ours. During the Pleistocene and Holocene Epochs (roughly 2.58 million years to today), the only confirmed bipedal apes have been determined to be hominins.

I think Mount Saint Helens had to be a big one for them. But like you, I think they’ve had them long before that. Yep agreed.

I think that is a real reasonable perspective. There IS no perspective and there IS no telling what our court system might do. I think it is a stone better left unturned .. at least until we know what is under it. Maybe "they" do know and anticipation of the legal situation is why they won't talk about it. Dunno. All, in all directions, is all speculation unless you happen to be someone who is in a loop we don't even know exists with certainty. There's a lot of logic to suggest it / support it but logic without substance, no matter how attractive, isn't evidence.

It's hard to say how crazy it could get, but I'm sure it would be socially, culturally, economically, and even religiously traumatic. This is the primary reason why I believe that government just doesn't want to go there, especially since it's so easy to maintain the current mythology storyline.

That is what Huntster and MIB have proposed. If given some sort of indigenous rights? It might be more than “locked up”. It might not even be theirs any more. My buddy is Lake band and they won their hunting rights back in Canada. https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2021/apr/23/colville-tribes-member-wins-pivotal-case-as-canadi/

Buddies trail cam up at Priest lake!🫣

I think it's the ultimate minority in the soup.

There is a lot of heat sensing video out there claimed to be sasquatches. It's useless to prove anything. I pay it no attention whatsoever. If Patty is Bob in a suit, a red heat blob is even more so, even without the suit. Three of the biggest photo evidence tool improvements over the past 40 years are cell phones, dash cams, and game cams. I have all three, but don't live in good sasquatch habitat, and my area has few reports. I use my game cam at bear bait stations. I have lots of pics of bears, foxes, wolverines, and even curious moose. Remarkably, over many years, not a single pic of a wolf, even though I've interacted with them many times in person. One of the most controversial game cam pics is the Jacobs pic. People still argue about what it is. There are lots of game cam pics of supposed sasquatches, and they prove nothing. I only have one dash cam, and it's in my daily driver, primarily for legal reasons. I never installed one in my pickup/camper, and so guess which rig I had grizzlies cross the road in front of me? Do you have a dash cam? How many folks do you think do? I've seen numerous dash cam videos from police cars. Again, they prove nothing. Cell phones? People get sasquatch videos on their phones regularly. One of my favorites is the Mission BC video. It proves nothing.

Nothing? There is a boat load of it. Heck they are on Eagle Cams for cripes sake! You want answers…. I understand. But just like UAPs there is a incredible amount of pushback from the deep state. And I dont see any of that changing any time soon unfortunately.

They would lock it up. Because they are. I worked in the Bakken oilfield. Most of the field was in North Dakota. Where the motto was “drill, baby, drill”. But in Montana? We shut down for over a month for sage grouse mating season. The permits were not being written very fast either. Complete sawmill towns were destroyed by the Spotted owl. Gone. And as you said? The cattle industry is being eviserated by Wolves currently. The “resource” they are trying to protect is evidently anything not for the betterment of mankind. I am not an advocate for turning the whole thing into a asphalt parking lot. But most are not advocating a Amish lifestyle either. Most just want to have their cake and eat it too. They wanna live in a condo, with hot water and electricity, and a fully stocked box stores 5 minutes away while enjoying a pristine wilderness off their porch. 🤷🏻‍♂️ So back to Sasquatch? Obviously something else is going on because if it was a simple endangered animal? They would leverage its plight to the hilt. But they don't. So either the creature doesn’t exist? Or there is a fly in the soup.

Well they don't want any more colonizers laying claim to anything. The Dorset people disappeared and the Inuit moved in. Probably because of 1st contact with the Vikings brought small pox. Its just to bad that the truth is a casualty in this debacle. I have a sneaking suspicion that contact between the old world and the new world is much older than anyone thinks.

The Forest Service would not lock up their ecosystem but fanatical private groups might try.

Of course they did. Do they want packaging in English, French and Norwegian? Hell no. In reality, it is a culture clash in the way of who claims the land. That woman was fired and some of her work was disappeared.

Hello, my name is Tony and I’m from Kansas. I searched for LDR Blogs and bioacoustics and wound up here. I am an avid Sasquatch researcher and have collected audio in the field as well as casted tracks. I’m happy to be here. I don’t post much, but am very interested in reading and learning what others have to say. I am especially interested in LDR rigs

That horse has been beat 10 feet into the ground.

Thanks. I wasn't aware of that.

Bob Gymlan, Bugfoot Society and Hellbent Holler.

Maybe I am a stubborn pot stirrer. But if I see one? I am putting it down. The chips can fall where they may. But truth is truth.

Third option: at the level that controls the purse strings, the gov't does not believe bigfoot exists so looking for them never gets taken seriously enough to be assigned. That doesn't require field people not to know about bigfoot. How do you truly rock the boat, not merely look stupid, unless you have proof in hand, and if you have proof in hand, can you prove you were not gathering that on work hours while neglecting your specifically assigned duties?

A struggle for me is the close human association in terms of alleged DNA results. And yet the morphology and behavior are not so similar. Almost not inside the parameters of the Homo genus at all. I say almost because while Homo Erectus used fire and stone tools? We don't know often they were used. Or if groups lost the ability because of topography and resources as they moved. All great ideas to ponder.👍🏼

The pieces do not fit neatly. There's always something we have to willfully ignore, something that it doesn't look right to ignore. I've often wondered if bigfoot wasn't a Homo erectus descendant, tiny population cut off in North America and forced by extreme climate to drift genetically quite rapidly. That much has been shown to happen in other species. That could account for the Cerutti mastadon site, for example. It could account for the lack of ancestral fossils in North America as well. It could potentially account for the DNA samples coming back as so near us they appear to be contamination or environmentally degraded rather than as a separate species. However, like every other answer, there seems to be a problem. In this instance the problem comes up if we try to equate bigfoot here with Almasty, yeren, maybe yowie .. because those from Europe and Asia, maybe Australia, are not separated from the larger H. erectus population in the same way any in North America would have been and continued connection with a larger population would have buffered out that sort of truly rapid genetic drift. There just is not a good, clean answer so far.

Sasquatches probably looked at native Americans more favorably since they had a low impact on their environment and the creatures were probably not afraid once they became used to living around the native Americans. This cohesiveness probably varied from tribe to tribe and more hostile tribes may have been averse to enjoying the company of bigfoots. The same applies in reverse with family groups of bigfoots who did not trust humans so it's difficult to know the relationship between the two groups. The relationship between modern humans and bigfoots today is probably far worse than when native Americans were dominate. Modern humans today have built the Forest Service that doesn't even recognize bigfoot probably due to admitting there is a bigfoot would amount to territory protection and vast reductions in logging if environmental groups demand extreme Sasquatch land protection.

I am a firm believer in logging. And reducing the fuel load on public forests. Its a shame that the Forest service tried to hide it from the public who obviously doesn’t understand wild land fire behavior. They unfortunately only understand it when their house burns down. Which is the inevitable result of bad policy decisions decades earlier. Deer and Elk also love the young browse that comes after a logging operation or a burn. The forest floor receives more light allowing younger plants and different species to thrive. But should you have quit? In the words of John Wayne? A man outta do what he thinks is right! The government is a giant bureaucracy. Anyone who has worked for them should understand. Anyone who doesn’t probably thinks it is ran like a business. It is not. There are secret agendas and public PR campaigns that don't always align. I don’t pay attention to much noise. Just the results. And if your forest is burning down around your ears each year? Somebody is not doing their job.

And here is a chew.....gotta have lots of DNA.

Of course you should! Right now as I eat my morning granola and type on this laptop I'm watching Nathan (a former, and perhaps still present poster here) on his Study Sasquach channel. He just casted yet another footprint. Now, I'm not so impressed with yet another sasquatch footprint cast. There must be thousands of them now in various collections, including the PGF casts that came with a film of the creature actually making the footprints. They "prove" nothing. What I'm interested with in Nathan's videos are: 1) He's honest, no BS, and is as down to Earth as they get 2) He's active and tenacious, and I can always expect him to provide an excellent video of his experiences 3) And he uses incredibly wonderful gear, which is a science in and of itself, and even at my age, I'm still interested in such stuff for hunting (which my tyrannical wife and decreasing health seems to increasingly prevent me from enjoying)

I hunted the Canadian side of the Yaak (Yahk in Canada) over about a decade back in the late '80s/early '90s, with some success. On one trip, my wife and I each got a mule deer and a whitetail, and I got a nice 6 pt elk. I have a pre digital photo of my wife standing at a border post on a mountain top with one foot in BC and the other in Montana. Great country to hunt in those days. Nice shot of the young moose!

Came down Spread creek from Canuck pass. Had lunch in Yaak Montana. Drove out to Northwest peak. And then back tracked down the mountain and camping along the west fork of the Yaak river.

The threats against whistleblowers and even the outbreak of missing and assumed deceased scientists is grist for the mill about how national security will continue to be used to cover up black box programs and funds, we can only hope the gold bars at Ft Knox haven't flown the coop already. Family of potential whistle blowers are now threatened and false charges used to wreck careers so the stories about BF researchers having home invasions and computers snatched in the past is totally believable. Mr. Gold's comments on the paranormal are as normal as remote viewing now.