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typical word play in the original post. not blaming the OP, but I am blaming his sources for fear mongering. opening 112M acres for logging doesn't mean that 112M acres will be logged. Today, we log anywhere from 2M to 10M acres a year in the US. The directive from President Trump is to increase logging by 25% domestically. That means 500K to 2.5M acres will be logged out of the 112M acres. We are talking about .45% to 2.23% of the 112M acres being logged. We have 823M acres of forest in the US. When you look at the amount of total forest impact, we are talking about to .06% to .30% of the forest being logged annually under this new rule. Is this really a sky is falling moment? NOT EVEN CLOSE. It is more whipped up hysteria from the true enemy of the people, the media.

The federal forests around me need thinning badly. Fires get worse every year. I welcome this news.

I set out a couple of audio recorders close to the 2013 Teepee structure, and I am thrilled to say that I have captured the sound of a tree hitting the ground followed by unknown voices speaking unknown words.

That is correct. But I'm quite confident that there are conspiracies within government to ignore the existence of Sasquatches, and this position extends to active discouragement of discovery on occasion in certain circumstances.

This !! They don't have to run any more disinformation other than infer that witnesses are not mentally well. And that will have repercussions in your life. Personally and professionally. This would include persons in the government itself.

This seems to be a hot topic in the Bigfoot world. The answer depends on what people think of as "The Government" You can predict the answer to your Q when you know some other perspectives on what people think about other topics involving the government. The answer is: NO The government doesn't care. If they had proof of Bigfoot's existence parts of the government would awaken and care only to the extent of their boundaries and mission. For instance, the IRS would still care ZERO while the DNR might create parameters on forbidden hunting. Local sheriffs might have concerns of safety. Biology researchers might concern themselves about what makes a Bigfoot tick. Maybe military contractors try to lean how Bigfoot is so stealthy. Remember that old CIA saying: Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead. There is no Bigfoot secret. Bigfoot either exist or it does not. if so, some parts of our government either know or don't know or care. If they know, why would that part of government keep it quiet or feel the need to?

That map of human migration has one element missing, and that is pathways made accessible by lowered sea levels during periods of glaciation. Drops of 200-400 feet have been reported for various ice ages, and these could result in significant expansions of habitable/traversable land. Its quite possible that much of man's prehistoric settlements could have taken advantage of these exposed coastal zones, and that untold habitations and artifacts, evidences of lost cultures could well be discovered within these now Oceanic sites.

From your own posts. In your Teepee structures post, you say in the first post that they are "created for another purpose ... [p]erhaps as a simple way of showing how many of their kind [the forest people] are in a particular location. You later stated that "the forest people" do not place these structures in there more secret living space, but use them at the boundaries of their living space. From roughly 0:45 to 1:00 minute of that video (discussing the 2013 teepee), you clearly stated your belief that the forest people were individually stacking sticks to provide a headcount of Bigfoot in a given area. In your Hilltop structure thread, you stated that the hilltop structure, "[l]ike the Teepee structure is a sign of where they [the forest people] live...." You labelled your next thread as a fact, stating that "you captured the voices of the forest people knocking over a tree" without qualification.

Actually, that's a misconception that a lot of people make. Absence of evidence is evidence of absence where the evidence should be there. An example of this is medical tests. If someone thinks that they have a disease or infection, then there should be evidence of it. But if the test results shows that there's no signs of the disease or infection, then they don't have the disease or infection.

We will one day admit that the native Americans were correct in their assessment of Sasquatch as a great spirit of the forest, as we have already conceded that the tribal medicine man really did know which plants could cure an ailment. There is a reason that they remain elusive.

I grew up in the PNW. I vividly remember being a school kid from a medium sized city visiting a small logging community in the foothills of the Cascade mountains for a flag football game. This little town was extremely poor. Most of the homes looked like shacks and single wide trailer houses. However, the school was almost new. The kids had brand new uniforms. I would later learn that school provided breakfast, lunch, and a brown bag dinner was the norm in these logging communities. This was long before todays "free lunch" program. Why was the school the only modern, new, and fully functional community support system? Because timber revenues were mandated to the school systems within that county. I am a supporter of sustainable timber harvest for ALL forests. The trees, endangered species, forest critters, and wild hairy people will all be just fine. I also think this new rule shoots a hole in the old theory that forestry practices were shut down by the Feds to secretly protect what some folks call Bigfoot.

Here are some reasons not to leap to the conclusion that a structure encountered in the woods = "Bigfoot." 1) The Great Hill Recreation Area, where this was filmed, is a postage-stamp sized park of 203 acres surrounded by suburbia and typical urban sprawl development. See https://www.trails.actonma.gov/great-hill/ size of the park and your map program of choice for a wider view of the area. 2) No one knows how how much range 1 Bigfoot needs to support itself, but an average New York black bear weighing from 160 to 300 lbs. needs 35 lbs of food per day to sustain itself. The average home range for black bears are 1-15 square miles (female) and 8-60 square miles (male) or 640 to 9600 acres for a female black bear. Thus, this park doesn't have the necessary area to support a (presumably) smaller animal. (I gathered this information some time ago from www.wikipedia.com and the links provided therein, and species-specific preservation/hunting websites; the entire chart of 13 large animals and human hunter/gatherers is uploaded somewhere on the forums.) 3) The branch structure looks to be only 20-30 yards of a trail (a blue trail marker is visible from 12:01 to 12:07, right before the camera pans to the left and first shows the branch structure, and again at 13:22. This is consistent with the Great Hill trail map, available at the website above. Even within the park, this is not a remote area. 4) Dead trees that fall between the forks of trees, like the ones that form the main supports on the right (looking at the mouth of the structure) are not that uncommon in nature. Kids (define loosely at 10-16 years old) making secret hideouts from their parents is also not unheard of. Its a great place to hangout and drink beers snuck out of the home frig or to neck (or so I've been told). This also could be a community hangout (again, look at the dense suburbs in the area) where people added to the "shelter" over time. 5) Setting aside the Hockamock swamp area to the southeast, this area of Massachusetts is a void as far as reported encounters go. There are 63 reported encounters in the state between 1861 and 2016 if you add up the reports from 9 different organizations/books/researchers.* Middlesex County, where this park is located, has zero reported encounters. The closest encounter to this park was in the 1960s, over 15 miles away. * Numbers subject to change as more research is done. Not claiming that this structure is natural. However, nothing supports bypassing more likely explanations (human action) to leap to the more unlikely explanation. That being said, nothing here should dissuade anyone from spending time in the woods and enjoying the fresh air and off chance that you'll encounter Bigfoot.

You’re completely confused. We are trying to get to PROOF…. You have the cart in front of the horse. How are we supposed to get to the truth with documents like the one below? Bigfoot, UFOs, the JFK assassination, etc. How long have we been trying to get to the bottom of it? And your honestly with a straight face tell me that the government has been transparent with American citizens??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

No, that’s just…..criminy sakes…….never mind. Have you met Sasfooty?

This is a volume enhanced 2 to 3 minute .wav file from the original .mp3 file which was 2 hours long. This is just about the same size as the audio used in the video. Hope this helps. treefall.WAV

As someone in this industry, I agree fully and you’ve explained it perfectly. Another excellent post, lots of common sense on this board!!!

Sure. It used to be if you saw a bigfoot sticker on a car, you could pretty well bet it was either another researcher or someone with deep interest, maybe personal experience. Today bigfoot is the equivalent of a pink flamingo on someone's lawn. There is no stopping cultural absurdity. Stuff is not in your control or mine. All we can do is manage ourselves.

Boots on the ground observation here says his claim is correct.

I know that area but it's a populated area that gets a lot of traffic and just people in general walking and partying around there . How a clan of bigfoots could hide out and travel there without being seen seems a stretch . This is Acton MA right around 15 miles from the outskrits of Boston. It's cool you are looking though and just getting out in general and not trying to find them from sitting on your couch in front of a computer screen . It's healthy to just hike around . I do it with my pup all the time .

They know where the city limits are. Fowl play.

I bet I could too…..😎

After days of heavy rain, we finally got a nice sunny weekend, so my son Steve and I headed out for the high country. I wanted to go to a waterfall that I'd never seen before, about 4 hours from home. We set off at 11am after fueling up the Hummer and drove about 2 hours up the Fraser Canyon to Boston Bar, where we turned off Hwy 1 onto the Nahatlatch River FSR, and continued for another40 km to Grizzly Falls. The road had been severely washed out in our 2021 "atmospheric river" floods and landslides, but has since been made passable, though still a bit sketchy in places. Along the way we passed through a very large stretch of the valley that was burned out 2 years ago, but eventually got past that into the forest again, with nice views of the Nahatlatch River and lake, finally reaching the falls we were seeking. The sight and the sound made the bouncing on the potholed road worth while, and we had lunch in the cool windblown spray from the cascade. We saw no large animals along the 80 km run up and down the logging road, but did see some grouse and a beautiful red tailed hawk in flight right beside us for about 30 seconds.

Well in my mind? It has to be something with opposable thumbs. In other words it’s not a Bear or an Osprey nest. Or any known animal. Dr. Mayor got chimp dna under a tree structure in Kentucky. What that means?🤷‍♂️ But If we follow Occam’s razor? With over 300 million Homo Sapiens walking around the USA? That’s a lot of opposable thumbs. I think the most prudent approach right now is to note these things. But not put too much stock in them. And if you can take DNA samples? Do it. I will say that this tree structure is absolutely a shelter, something is getting under cover. It’s not a teepee structure that would serve no purpose of getting out of the weather. Does Sasquatch need shelter? 🤷‍♂️

I had a visit from an old buddy this morning that I hadn't seen in about 10 years, though we still phone each other regularly. We used to be neighbours and often hunted together, until I moved up the Fraser Valley, over an hour from the old 'hood. He took me to breakfast in his new EV (Chevy Bolt), then I took him for a ride in my new Mitsubishi Outlander. After that, we piled in the old Hummer, and headed for the bush. I took him up the Norrish Creek FSR where we used to hunt black bear and coast blacktail deer, and of course where I had my sasquatch sighting back in '79 or so. No squatches sighted today, even though we went high enough up the valley to be in snow deep enough to rub the skid plates of the H3. We saw no tracks of anything in the snow that had fallen just last night at that elevation. It was still a great day out there with an old friend. Sorry, no pics today, but there's lots from that road in some of my previous posts.

Welcome back bud!👍

Yeah, I’m fully on board with you. I believe a government coverup is essentially impossible. Especially a unified one across the world. Someone would have leveraged this knowledge for their own gain by now.

This is crazy! Ghosts, aliens, and ancient civilizations I get. But fortune tellers and telekinesis coming ahead of Bigfoot belief is absolutely wild.

I'm with Cryptid on that last point, at least to some extent. As for at this point we can't even be certain if what's being seen as "large hairy hominid" even represents a single species, or a spectrum of diverse species created by successive waves of migration, or speciation through isolation or selective factors within a habitat....as relatively closely related forms, hybridization may be ongoing, unless inhibited by their own cultural norms. But I do believe that eventually, or maybe tomorrow, proof/evidence of definite nature will be had. Of course the governmemt may finally choose disclosure of what they know as well.. As for the percentage of sightings that get reported to various record keeping groups, I d personally guess its no more than 5-10% at the very best, and probably well below that. Figure Joe Average may not even be aware of Bigfoot groups prior to a sighting, this their first recourse would be to call the police, or perhaps the forest service, which would usually result in mirthful dismissal, which could well make them all the more reluctant to pursue further efforts to report. Most nigfoot groups on say Facebook that I've seen run rampant with harshly critical elements that offer up more than enough critique, criticism, and questions of personal sobriety to turn anyone's thought away from reporting anything ever again!

This is pretty much exactly what I took your agreement to mean.

After another week of nasty wet weather, the weekend turned sunny and warm, so my son and I headed out to the mountains in search of sasquatch sign, as well as having bear and cougar tags for the spring season, just in case. We chose to check out the Hunter Creek watershed, SW of Hope, BC, which climbs very steeply from the floor of the Fraser Valley into a system of old logging roads that extend over 30km or so into the various branches of Hunter Creek. The scenery was great, but we couldn't reach the ends of any of the roads due to heavy wet snow drifts at the higher elevations wherever the track was shaded. There were lots of birds, but the only mammals spotted were a pair of marmots sunning on a rockpile at about 1500' elevation.

Actually you're using confirmation bias for the things you find . I won't call it evidence . Has anyone ever seen Bigfoot building a structure ? No but look at your posts ....Has to be a bigfoot in your other posts of the stick structures you found. N ...That's confirmation bias The structures that you have been told that kids and people build them ...a lot in the woods . Hell I passed one today while hiking with the dog in the woods. There's tons of people who will go out and practice bushcraft . When ever someone points something out you dismiss it and fall back to I know it's the forest people doing this. You are not doing this subject any good by always thinking everything is a bigfoot or what you like to call forest people but you can't see that .

I’m surprised in this day that so many today don’t understand or agree with management of our natural resources.

Those weren't dermal ridges that you saw. It's hard enough for dermal ridges to be imprinted on dirt and mud, so not all of the casts that are claimed to have them are actual dermal ridges. Plaster casts produces a lot of artifacts during the curing process. Therefore, careful examination of the casts is required for confirmation. But, when it comes to snow footprints, the chance of it having dermal ridges are 0% because it violates the laws of physics. Snow isn't fine enough to be able to pick up the ridges. But what makes it impossible is that the thin layer of the surface of the snow melts immediately on contact with the bottom of the foot. Those weren't dermal ridges that you saw. It's hard enough for dermal ridges to be imprinted on dirt and mud, so not all of the casts that are claimed to have them are actual dermal ridges. Plaster casts produces a lot of artifacts during the curing process. Therefore, careful examination of the casts is required for confirmation. But, when it comes to snow footprints, the chance of it having dermal ridges are 0% because it violates the laws of physics. Snow isn't fine enough to be able to pick up the ridges. But what makes it impossible is that the thin layer of the surface of the snow melts immediately on contact with the bottom of the foot.

Going to have to agree with Norseman on this. There definitely are many benefits of them being recognized as a species. Habitat protections alone are well worth it.

I am not agreeing with or disagreeing with RedHawk, however, I do know for a fact that here in coastal Oregon, the natives routinely burned portions of the forest to clear the land so that it would attract game to the new, fresh growth similar to the way a clearcut does.

the Great Plains stretch over the states you mention, but your claim of human's creating fires, burning down forests, so now we have the Great Plains is absurd.

You make a good point. We all would like the Bigfoot topic to get the serious consideration and resources we feel it deserves. Yet, I would like to offer up this idea: PT Barnum (or someone like him) stated, "I don't care what they keep saying about me so long as they spell my name right" The idea is any press is good press. I don't see anything demeaning about a Messin' with Sasquatch commercial. In a way I think the more Bigfoot air fresheners in cars or mudflaps and beef jerky commercials put Bigfoot in the mind of the public. I see that as a good thing. This is having fun with the topic which I think softens the topic for the public. Attempting serious academic study of Bigfoot could be met with ridicule. Such serious people are lumped in with those people looking for unicorns. If a person claim they saw Bigfoot they probably don't have time to whip out their call phone This leaves them with a choice: Tell others what you saw or keep quit. As Gimlin found out, even having a film of a reported bigfoot is not enough to shied you from harassment and ridicule. If I saw what I thought was bigfoot in the woods, I might not tell anybody. Shows like Discovery and so on have done a decent job giving serious study to the Bigfoot concept. Really good shows have featured the kind of experts we want to present. These are people like Munns, Meldrum, john Bindernagal, Anna Nikaris, and so on. These people are a good face for the serious study of Bigfoot. Where we miss are shows like Finding Bigfoot where the bigfoot topic unintentionally becomes a joke. You have people talking about bigfoot like he exists as a proven. They brag about all these things they attribute as fact right down to bigfoot's diet, bigfoot's favorite color, and bigfoot's favorite baseball team. When you have Bobo running around saying every twig snap is a 'squatch' all the previous well- built credibility is lost. You can't underestimate the damage this has created. Anyone doing a serious study of Bigfoot is lumped in with the face of Bigfoot. That face is Bobo. For me, finding bigfoot has done more to harm the subject of bigfoot second only to Bob Heironimus unchallenged claims

In my view, that is equally important.

Massachusetts sightings by a park ranger. Seemed relevant to your experiences.

It is both. Our forests are being mismanaged. Fires are getting bad. And the tariff wars will have a negative effect on Canadian imports including lumber. Which is the point of tariffs is to bring production and jobs back to America. Here is a random snapshot of the border between the U.S. and Canada in the Yaak River drainage. Do you notice anything? Which side is logging more? Most timber production in the U.S. no longer comes from the U.S. Forest Service. It comes from state lands and private lands. I.e. Weyerhaeuser or Boise Cascade. And the last part that really gets under my hide is that the U.S. Forest Service is a part of the Dept of AGRICULTURE. Why agriculture? Because up until the spotted owl debacle? Forests were seen as a green renewable resource. You’re growing a crop. You harvest the crop, and you replant the crop. Now they treat them like parks. They don’t touch them, the fuel load grows and grows per acre until a hot summer and a lightning strike sets off a massive forest fire. As a fire fighter of 17 years? Loggers respect flag lines and timber sale boundaries. Forest fires? Do not. Complete towns have burned down. This is mismanagement on an epic scale. And if I started a fire on my property and it spread to Forest Service property? They would sue me into oblivion…. but when it’s the other way around? Crickets. What does this all mean for Bigfoot? Remember that US Parks and wilderness areas will not be touched. But clear cuts are beneficial to certain species like Elk and Deer. If Bigfoot likes to eat hoofed critters? He will like clear cuts. Also all logging respects RZs or Riparian zones, so they cannot log right down to the crick or river. This keeps fish and other critters habitat intact. Also Bigfoot already has to navigate forest fire burnt areas already. A clear cut in his eyes would be just the same without the threat of being burned alive. Some noisy loggers move in for a couple of months and then they are gone.🤷‍♂️

Theres many articles. Heres googles AI overview: On Friday, April 5th, the USDA issued a memo allowing logging on over 112 million acres of national forests, aiming to increase timber production and reduce wildfire risk, potentially bypassing standard environmental processes. Here's a more detailed breakdown: The Memo: Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins issued a memo, following an executive order, to expedite logging activities in designated forests. Purpose: The move aims to increase U.S. timber production and empower the Forest Service to take emergency actions to reduce wildfire risk. Scope: The memo impacts 112,646,000 acres, which is 59% of all Forest Service lands, determined to be at risk of fire, harmful insects, or both. Impacted Areas: This includes forests like the Medicine Bow-Routt National Forest, Bridger-Teton National Forest, Shoshone National Forest, Black Hills National Forest, and Bighorn National Forest. Environmental Concerns: The memo could potentially dismantle some National Environmental Policy Act processes, raising concerns about environmental safeguards. Environmental Groups Opposition: Environmental groups like the Sierra Club, Coalition to Protect America's National Parks, and Environment America oppose the memo, citing potential harm to environmental protections and increased risk to forests. heres an article USDA designates 113 million acres for emergency logging to boost U.S. timber production i'm not saying that that isnt going to happen and yes its needed, but thats one claim to justify this whole thing. From what Ive read its really being done to boost US timber production

I am not a fan of birds. Chicken, Turkey, etc. Prefer a rib steak!🤣 Good luck!👍

Good evening. My name is Betzy and live in Miami,FL. Reading and learning about Bigfoot has both intrigued my curiosity is hearing other’s stories and also scared me. Growing up in the city, I cannot imagine what it must be like to live in a remote area away where you can interact with Bigfoot family on a daily basis . I’m sure way back when there wasn’t as much technology and civilization, the stories of some hillbillies would knock our socks off! Can’t way to indulge reading and learning about everyone’s research and encounters.

Hello I am from Texas. I am very interested in the Bigfoot topic. I have traveled all over the us and I love to read and listen to the sightings and stories and others personal experiences. Thank you for letting me join

I'm Mark from West Milford New Jersey, thanks for welcoming me to your page

The biology is so interesting, thanks norse. Just came across this in the sightings forum. https://bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=78256

https://www.outdoorlife.com/survival/klutuk-the-mad-trapper-of-bristol-bay/

Got up high. Found some old bear poo (i think) Had to turn around.