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https://www.science.org/content/article/mysterious-orange-lipped-monkey-discovered-deep-congo-rainforest-new-species I'm surprised that this doesn't have a thread yet. It seems tangentially relevant. This line I found interesting: "The Likweli monkey was first caught on camera in 2008, when a research expedition snapped a blurry photo of a black-pelted primate they didn’t recognize." That's right folks, all started with a blobmonkey!

For those who doubt the usefulness of DNA in identifying Bigfoot as a new species or a Homo sapiens hybrid, please read this paper on the Likweli monkey, which has extensive DNA results to demonstrate its place in monkey phylogeny as a distinct species. A similar paper on the Lesula monkey, another recent discovery, can be found in PLOS ONE.

^^^ This is a point Anna Nikaris has made about Bigfoot. She discovered some similar primate in Asia herself a few years ago. Never know what is out there.

For the moment, my little chunk o' heaven is calm. The East Evans Creek Fire (15,800 acres?) seems under control. The state fire marshal team tasked with structure protection left a week ago. The local IMT under state forestry has completed their 2 week rotation and has been replaced by a joint team from California and Australia. North-central and Eastern Oregon are a different situation. Something over 1.5 million acres have burned / are burning, several fires well beyond 100K acres, and today they're under a "PDS" red flag warning, not a red flag warning. I'd never heard the term. PDS is particularly dangerous situation. Low humidity, winds to 50 mph over active fires, and not enough resources to address new starts. Despite all of the conspiracy nonsense, these are lightning fires other than East Evans Creek which was the result of a car hitting a power pole and dropping live lines into dry brush.

Paranthropus

Well, that's interesting and does open up some potentials. If the track ways are indicating a larger size, do they also imply the degree of "upright-ness"? And how would this impact their capacity for longer distance mobility. Is it possible they or some member of Paranthropus were able to take part in the ongoing exodus from Africa along with other hominids of the time, such as erectus? If this occurred when sea levels had dropped we would have little chance of finding evidence of such range expansions, but if H.erectus was on the move, whats to say Paranthropus wouldn't as well, perhaps even following or joining H.e for increased safety and foraging.its a stretch to be sure, but it does illustrate potential pathways for the simultaneous expansion of multiple species outside of Africa, which could then result in multiple derived forms further out rather than just our own hominid line.

This picture was sent to me by a friend. It’s Inchelium Washington. It on the Colville Indian Reservation. This is the Modrite fire. Stay safe folks! 🙏🏻😥

Yes. But no elk hoof tracks in the cast area. So did it levitate out of its bed? The last act of a bedded elk getting up is standing on its hooves, right? Ive posted video of elk in the act of getting up before. So we should guard against blanket statements like this or the Jacobs creature was a bear because bear cubs where recently in the bait stand. My own personal experience is that I get a wide variety of species into my bait stand when i was doing it. And something with padded feet like a bear or a Bigfoot is harder to track.

I have consolidated the three Capturing Bigfoot threads under Skinwalker13 original posting. It has been moved to the PGF section. Thank you for your patience!

What does this nature discovery mean? Here are my completely uninformed thoughts: First, I applaud the logic. I will admit when we see something unusual, I am more prone to think it is in fact not unusual. It is just not as well understood. Well, maybe just not well understood by me. Once we understand it the real reason turns out to be pretty boring. I would like to offer 2 examples: 1- Plaster cast "fingerprints". I heard on TV shows how these plaster footprints of Bigfoot had dermal ridges. There was even claimed evidence of healed skin in the footprint's dermal ridge lines which "couldn't be faked". Jimmy Chilcutte became a household name in the Bigfoot world as the FBI fingerprint expert who pointed these things out. He concluded this could only be explained by an undiscovered primate making the prints. This may be the case, but his analysis was flawed it seems. The effect he noticed was able to be explained and reproduced by others giving the same ridges as an experimental result. This meant there could be other explanations for the same lines he based his conclusions on. 2- The Skookum casts were thought to be a bigfoot siting in the mud. It seems its more likely this was just a deer/elk type animal. Of the two which is more likely. We attribute things to unusual findings which can be significant. Sometimes it is and sometimes it's not. In the end we need to go wherever the facts take us. Are the findings explained by some other natural process or typical process?

Hello from Ohio. I have had a few personal encounters and am interested in hearing about other people’s experiences.

^^^ Be safe if you go.

Talked to my son tonight and we may be deployed to Tonasket. Thats the Sinlahekin fire.

Hey Backdoc ... good questions. The answer is nobody really knows. I'll risk speculating though. Back in August of 2011 when my then-new buddy Bill and I did our first backpacking trip we had some activity. From laying on my back, my sense was the big guy coming toward / into camp was traveling at least 10-12 mph and was doing it walking, not running. I say that based on the slow cadence of the steps and the immense amount of ground he was covering. So .. guessing .. if they were pushed, I would think they could cover upwards of 100 miles in a day. That's not a long term sustainable speed because it doesn't leave time to gather calories but in a burst, at need, I think it is possible. Depending on what they are eating and how long they have to slow down to gather it, they might well maintain our walking speed while traveling and foraging. I don't think they move that fast most of the time, not on average. In that same area where we had the camp visits, activity often starts between August 15th and 20th and persists into early September, then tapers off. I've had sparse "action" 'til around the 20th-25th of September some years. The next canyon over, maybe 6 miles away, I've had at least hints of potential bigfoot activity past the middle of October. I don't think they maintain a set speed. I think they go faster when they're not finding concentrations of resources and they slow down when the grub is good and the hiding is better. Unfortunately that doesn't give the simple and constant numerical values for speed / distance your question seems to ask. From mid October into Christmas or beyond they sorta disappear. If it is the same "guys" they pop up in two places. One is about 40 miles across fairly open country (with a huge lake in the middle) so I assume they skirt it on one side or the other. Reports there go into spring then stop. The other stays along the foot of the mountains .. a smattering of reports through winter .. and seem to pass back over the crest in a lower area and return to this closer side, then swing north a little. In neither case are they making big miles, probably averaging less than one mile per day, though I doubt that's at a steady pace, again, could well be driven by ease of gathering calories. Bill followed up on one report seemingly from a member of the group that goes through that saddle and comes back to this side of the mountains. That was right around Christmas and was in the saddle. That saddle is, for whatever it is worth, probably 5-6 miles only from where one of those fire crews saw the bigfoots following them to and from the fire line in the dark. That is near enough valley bottom that perhaps they are not part of that group / gathering either. I could be over-connecting dots that don't belong together. Itsa risk! MIB

So KC is not normally what comes to mind when I think of prime BF real estate. To what do you attribute the multiple number of sightings in the area? While urban BF is not unheard of, it does seem to be fairly rare. Just curious. Also, do you mind providing a few more details on some of the incidents? That latest sighting in Independence is smack dab in the the center of a residential area and seems highly improbable, but I would love to know more about it. Thanks!

They don't necessarily evacuate the area. I have 2(past) local reports of fire crews on night shift being "shadowed" by BFs as they go to / from the firelines on foot. I wasn't able to follow up on either report. A friend did with one. I didn't see anything that raised any red flags however.

Any fire like this is horrible. I imagine a terrible fire would drive many animals toward safety and Bigfoot would be no exception. It's still a numbers game. 10,000 Deer on the move are easier to notice than 4 Sasquatch.

In theory Sasquatch's should be moving around A LOT and there should be an increase in sightings maybe.

This is a really good read (sorry, listen) in spite of the scary headline chosen by the video-makers. If the video-makers are being honest, none of the voiceover or research is generated by AI. It's not hard to overlay reported Bigfoot behavior with some of the information in the video.

I became intested in bigfoot after a sighting on a road near north carolina i have been following it ever since

Here in BC, most of the Fraser Canyon and the Cariboo Plateau is blazing right now, with at least 4 towns evacuated, and several more under threat. One of the fires is now over 90,000 hectares!

Hello all, I have been interested in bigfoot since 2012, when I remote viewed one in Missouri, then to my shock, he appeared in my driveway in person not long after. I've had multiple experiences over the past several years in Missouri and Illinois. I own the Unexplained Network, which has multiple shows about unexplained phenomena and of course, bigfoot. I cover the subject on my own podcast occassionally. I have a keen interest in the subject, and that is why I'm hositng two conferences this year, which I hope will continue into the future. I love hearing about other people's encounters and learning from professional invsetigators.I own the Unexplained Network, which has multiple shows about unexplained phenomena and, of course, Bigfoot.

Greetings! I'm Klaus. Never had an actual sighting, but heard quite a lot of strangeness in the woods I grew up. Always around fall.

I have been looking for some hobbies to occupy my time as of late and camping and hiking are areas in which I always enjoyed in the past with friends. Now that those people have left my life, I am looking to pick up where I left off without them. Why not occupy my time researching this while I am out there to begin with, I guess. I am also planning on giving this total time and devotion. The best is yet to come!

Hello there, My name is Clark Henrie, I'm a life long bigfoot enthusiast and I love researching this topic as well as cryptozoology of all kinds. I look forward to sharing some of my amateur research with the community (I enjoy reading old newspapers and books looking for past encounters), Anyway glad to be here. --Clark

Hi

Hi all I'm Shake, 35, and used to be a member of this forum a long time ago. My interested in sasquatch must have started almost 20 years ago, back when I was still a teenager living in Germany. I moved to Los Angeles eight years ago. I used to read the reports on BFRO for hours, absolutely riveted by the fact that hundreds of eyewitnesses were clearly describing the same mammal. How could they ALL be lying or hallucinating? I think what convinced me early on that sasquatches must be real is this BFRO page: https://www.bfro.net/news/SnowTracks/WI-tab.asp I was also fascinated with the Kentucky project, back before it was renamed the Erickson project (which happened around 17 years ago). There is a lengthy blogpost by DB Donlon about it that I'd love to share here later. My favourite recent evidence is the absolutely awesome Ouachita Project Monograph by the NAWAC: https://www.woodape.org/index.php/opmonograph/ I've also loved John Bindernagel's The Discovery of the Sasquatch. I'm dying to read his earlier book North America's Great Ape, but it doesn't seem to be available for purchase for under 100 $ anywhere... I'm excited to rejoin the fold of the one and only Bigfoot Forums! :)

That is usually what happens. People have their own sighting and want to learn more about the elusive creatures. That is what happened to me.