Guest COGrizzly Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Aw, man - don't sell yourself short Cervelo! I laughed out loud literally on that one Cer. I must once again thank bipto for his steady patience in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 He has indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 cience itself is best when it's wrong. The purpose of it isn't to have all the answers, but to find them. Hypotheses deserve to be proven right or wrong and it's not until you prove them right or wrong that you actually learn. Science typically either rejects a null hypothesis or, failing the ability to reject it, retains it. Null hypotheses are rarely accepted — i.e., proven right (it takes an extraordinarily large sample size to do so with any degree of acceptible credibility). When a null hypothesis is rejected, the simplest alternative hypothesis is promoted to the new null and is retained until it is rejected. In science, there is a whole lot of rejection and retention going on, but typically little acceptance (i.e. proving hypotheses right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 When they do bring in a specimen, dead or alive, I feel certain we will know that BF is not a sub-human animal. When they do bring in a specimen, dead or alive, I feel certain we will know that if BF is not a sub-human animal. There, I fixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I must agree that Bipto deserves a hearty well done. It would take a great deal of fortitude to take the kind of punishment he has and still keep on offering insight to that goings on at Area X. Pretty sure I couldn't do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 When they do bring in a specimen, dead or alive, I feel certain we will know that if BF is not a sub-human animal. There, I fixed it. I personally think that all this knocking of animals for being better than us has got to stop. As someone once put it: apes didn't fail to become human. They succeeded at becoming apes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I was wondering how long have your apes been interacting with people. I mean pryer to these operations. Is there a history of fighting with the cabin owner? If so, who/what started it? If not, I was thinking that they probably dont know what to do and are just doing the best they can with what they got. They would know how to handle their own kind regarding acts of aggression but when it comes the skin monkeys, thats a whole different ballgame. One im guessing they are learning as they go. They might act like animals on the battle field and be a totally different people at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 I was wondering how long have your apes been interacting with people. I mean pryer to these operations. Is there a history of fighting with the cabin owner? If so, who/what started it? They don't fight with us. They're interactions have increased from the beginning of Endurance and all through Persistence, but at no point would I characterize their behavior as "fighting." As I said above, IMO most of the time it comes across as curiosity and even precociousness. It's rarely threatening. The property owners have had their own experiences over the years, including sightings. They've never indicated any sense that the apes were being aggressive, as far as I'm aware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Hey Bipto, Are you tracking the experiences of the team in a database of any kind? Some of the statistical analyses that might arise could be quite interesting. (simple examples = activity depending on time of day, weather conditions, etc.) I know it's not the number one target of your project, however it could be a means to an end, ie. a tool to predict likelihood of activity. CH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 It's within the scope of our work and we've done some of those kinds of analyses, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam2323 Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 (edited) Arizona- hunting animals ?I never said I had a problem hunting animals, IDO have a problem of shooting a closely related Hominin to us. something so close to us!!!? Sorry but I dont buy into BF's being anywhere near related to us. Its it own seperate species always has been. JMO Edited December 12, 2012 by adam2323 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Bipto, I guess they dont know what your intentions are. How would you break down your operation? What percentage of your time is spent actually hunting for them (not looking for them...hunting them)? You would think being hunters themselves they would be able to tell they are being hunted. Edited December 13, 2012 by Nakani Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 something so close to us!!!? Sorry but I dont buy into BF's being anywhere near related to us. Its it own seperate species always has been. JMO Being a separate species AND being close to us are not implausible ideas. Species are often removed from each other by only a very small fraction of their DNA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oonjerah Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 I am counting on the Big Guy to elude and outwit, until ... ... ... Dr. Ketchum shows up with the high-definition video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Bipto, I guess they dont know what your intentions are. How would you break down your operation? What percentage of your time is spent actually hunting for them (not looking for them...hunting them)? You would think being hunters themselves they would be able to tell they are being hunted. Clever girl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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