Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 (edited) I will defend VioletX's case!1. Assumes the homeless people did not misidentify something else. But then that can be the case with all Bigfoot sightings and so why are you here? 2. Kind of the same as 1, not sure why it's a second point? VX pointed this out because it suggests this BF was unusual in its habit/habitat 3. Well you highlight the assumption in this one yourself...nuff said. again pointed out also because it suggests this BF was unusual in its habit/habitat 4. Seems fine. No that one isnt completely confirmed actually - is it? 5. Again, how is this different than 4? it was confirmed by Cisco that there was a film company interacting with the homeless people during that period 6. This is a big assumption. That because they were there for 6 days they must have had a great chance of finding a BF? People spend weeks at a time in a spot and have not produced tangible evidence. Again look at points 2 & 3 7. Assumes Minnow is aware of this controversy and would deny it. We don't know that at all. Yes we do. I for one called them and I have since heard of many others phoning, emailing them but getting no answer. They must know by now. We don't even know if they are aware and whether they would want to deny it. A couple of assumptions there. 8. That one depends on who you talk to really. This assumes everyone has the same view of that video..not true at all. But still true that it still isnt a proven hoax 9. No mask has been made public, but there have been links to ones for sale on the web that could have likely been used. As VX points out - not yet though 10. Well, we'll leave that one alone. One statement that requires no assumptions? RD is lying, hoaxer of low character. Edited January 24, 2013 by JackiLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockape Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yes, as far as I can see it is only Jacki and I that are the "naive folks". The rest of you guys reading and responding to the thread must just be bored, glad we can entertain you. Sorry I was so rude Violet. It just floors me that anyone would take anything said by RD as having any truth to it. I really do hope however that RD, and anyone else who is giving him the benefit of the doubt on this, will be able to shove it in our face and say "See, I was Right", as that would mean he has a proven BF body and the BF mystery is solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmaker Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 @JAckiLB. Why are skeptics constantly asked why we are here? Obviously I have an interest in the subject matter. Myth is fascinating. For whatever reason I find a myth about a giant, hairy apeman running around virtually all of North America ( including our backyards ) to be particularly intriguing. But why do I have to defend my presence? I have no problem with having to defend my comments or things I present as factual as would any other member be they skeptic, believer, habituator, or whatever. But my very presence? It gets tiring after a while. I am here because I find BF interesting. I do not find that there is enough evidence to prove the existence to me, but I still find it interesting. Why is that not good enough? Is this forum ONLY for believers, knowers and habituators? I didn't see that on the way in, or maybe I missed that memo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 @JAckiLB. Why are skeptics constantly asked why we are here? Obviously I have an interest in the subject matter. Myth is fascinating. For whatever reason I find a myth about a giant, hairy apeman running around virtually all of North America ( including our backyards ) to be particularly intriguing. But why do I have to defend my presence? I have no problem with having to defend my comments or things I present as factual as would any other member be they skeptic, believer, habituator, or whatever. But my very presence? It gets tiring after a while. I am here because I find BF interesting. I do not find that there is enough evidence to prove the existence to me, but I still find it interesting. Why is that not good enough? Is this forum ONLY for believers, knowers and habituators? I didn't see that on the way in, or maybe I missed that memo? Oh ok dmaker - thats cool Sorry I was so rude Violet. It just floors me that anyone would take anything said by RD as having any truth to it. I really do hope however that RD, and anyone else who is giving him the benefit of the doubt on this, will be able to shove it in our face and say "See, I was Right", as that would mean he has a proven BF body and the BF mystery is solved. Yes that is the thing Rockape, we are defending this story because we want the outcome to be true and I think the main reason why there are so few people defending this story is because of it is predominantly associated with Rick Dyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 As far as I know minnows films has not confirmed Rick Dyer is in their film. If this has been confirmed, can someone post the source? ( im not saying this part is not true, I just haven't seen it confirmed ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 I emailed minnow films this am and asked if they were affiliated with RD. I'm holding my breath until they answer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JenJen of Oldstones Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Yes, as far as I can see it is only Jacki and I that are the "naive folks". The rest of you guys reading and responding to the thread must just be bored, glad we can entertain you. Violet and Jacki--sorry I didn't see this earlier or I would have spoken up. I've been following this thread but had to unsubscribe because my inbox was so flooded with updates, so I've missed a few. I also believe the video is real, so count me in with the naive dreamers. I'm happy to stand with you two. Thanks for keeping the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thepattywagon Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Not sure if this has been covered, but why wouldn't Dyer do anything and everything to get more bang for his buck after presented with an opportunity to be in the film? He's proven he has no boundaries when it comes to hoaxing, so I'd be very surprised if he DIDN'T come up with another timely hoax that he could 'sell' to the film company. It's also very possible that Minnow paid for the suit, and set the whole BFshooting thing up, just to show how these things are done. If true, Dyer can lie with a clean conscience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Violet and Jacki--sorry I didn't see this earlier or I would have spoken up. I've been following this thread but had to unsubscribe because my inbox was so flooded with updates, so I've missed a few. I also believe the video is real, so count me in with the naive dreamers. I'm happy to stand with you two. Thanks for keeping the faith. Lol, Jen Jen, are you sure you want to join us? We saved a seat for you just in case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JenJen of Oldstones Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 ^^Thanks! Although if it does turn out to be real, we'll have been wrong about the baby we thought we saw on its back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Violet and Jacki--sorry I didn't see this earlier or I would have spoken up. I've been following this thread but had to unsubscribe because my inbox was so flooded with updates, so I've missed a few. I also believe the video is real, so count me in with the naive dreamers. I'm happy to stand with you two. Thanks for keeping the faith. Woo Hoo Welcome to the club JenJen - you might regret it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Sorry I was so rude Violet. It just floors me that anyone would take anything said by RD as having any truth to it. I really do hope however that RD, and anyone else who is giving him the benefit of the doubt on this, will be able to shove it in our face and say "See, I was Right", as that would mean he has a proven BF body and the BF mystery is solved. I wasn't offended Rockape I don't think most people can believe this claim without some very big proof, but I am open to the idea that even a known hoaxer has the ability to change. ^^Thanks! Although if it does turn out to be real, we'll have been wrong about the baby we thought we saw on its back. Oh no, did you have to bring that up,lol!! Shhhhhhhh!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JenJen of Oldstones Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 ^^Jacki, I've been on record that I believe it's real since the video first came out! It's not easy to stand that ground with everyone saying anyone who believes Rick Dyer is a fool, though. I just don't comment very often because I have a short attention span, and by the time I finish catching up on missed posts my brain is wanting to move on to something else, lol. But I am very proud of you and Violet for not backing down on your belief that the video is real! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest VioletX Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Not sure if this has been covered, but why wouldn't Dyer do anything and everything to get more bang for his buck after presented with an opportunity to be in the film? He's proven he has no boundaries when it comes to hoaxing, so I'd be very surprised if he DIDN'T come up with another timely hoax that he could 'sell' to the film company. It's also very possible that Minnow paid for the suit, and set the whole BFshooting thing up, just to show how these things are done. If true, Dyer can lie with a clean conscience. The thing is that unless there is a part 2 in the works Minnow has to be done with the movie by now. I would assume that the editing and production would take awhile and if it is to be released at Tribecca, I think it has to be complete by now. The whole hoaxing part of it would have to include the big reveal, no?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockape Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 The whole hoaxing part of it would have to include the big reveal, no?? Unless Tricky Ricky tried to hoax the film crew, who busted him and have it on film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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