Rick Dyer Again

[Guest]

http://www.woai.com/...DB9B0Z52SA.cspx

In the comments section:

Unfortunately,

you have been a victim of a gross misrepresentation of statements taken

totally out of context and misquoted by John Lloyd Scharf. Scharf is a

retired prison guard and self-proclaimed expert, who is often shunned

by most Bigfoot researchers. Here is the official position of the Texas

Parks and Wildlife as it should have been quoted by Scharf:

"until a verifiable specimen of Sasquatch in found in Texas, our

agency has no authority. Our authority is not limited because of a lapse

in Texas Parks and Wildlife Code or other state laws – it is limited

because there is no verifiable evidence that such a species is

indigenous to Texas. Our agency only has authority over wildlife that is

‘indigenous to Texas’ (TPWD Code 67.001). Circumstantial evidence is

not sufficient.

If at some time, a new species is identified in Texas by some “by solid

or irrefutable evidenceâ€, we do have the authority to act and protect

the species as necessary.

Thank you for your letter and your interest in Texas wildlife.

John Herron

Branch Chief, Wildlife Diversity

Texas Parks and Wildlife

For the record, I have never met or talked to Chris Noel.

What I am saying is that what he wrote about the shooting in the Preface to his book clearly indicates that he has seen the footage.

So perhaps Dyer and Minnow allowed him to see the footage in return for the upfront mention in his new book that they knew would be published and released months ahead of the release of the documentary on BBC.

From the Book Description on Amazon:

Sasquatch Rising 2013: Dead Giants Tell No Tales: How DNA Breakthroughs and Backyard Visits Reveal the Greatest Story of Our Time

http://www.amazon.co...&pf_rd_i=507846

"On September 6, 2012, the cold-blooded “harvesting†of a male specimen suddenly plunged eons of a rich relationship into raw pornography; it was a low point in the history of human ego. And yet, we must take this dark occasion to turn the page and resume the authentic story, finally forging a deeper understanding."

As you can see that is right at the top of the description. So I would say there's a good chance that Dyer and Minnow were the ones hitching a promotional ride.

It's also obvious how he feels about what Dyer did, if in fact he did kill a male Sasquatch in Texas last September.

I think it's rather gratuitous for Noel to assume that Dyer did in fact kill a BF...but according to the quote you sited...that's exactly what Noel has done. Notice, he doesn't say *IF DYER KILLED A BF, then.......* He acts as if he's verified Dyers story....which he has NOT.

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[Ike]

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[Guest VioletX]

who said they quit filming right after the tent video or editing. It wouldn't surprise me if some of this uproar is included in the film. This happened way back in September and then right after that you had FB/FB claiming it was real and the best since the p/g footage and naming it one of the top ten bigfoot evidence films of all times and Noel promoting it. Those are the things the general public will hear about, not the doubters on this and other forums. I do admit I'm speculating, but this is how it always as gone down in the end, perhaps this time will be different, but I doubt it.

We do not know what the film company is doing, but you think a bunch of screen shots from Lindsey's blog and FB/FB along with Ricks videos and radio shows are going to be wrapping up this movie, with the finale being Musky blind-folded and led to the fake body?

Sounds ambitious and tiresome and I am not buying it,lol.

It just sounds like 2 different movies IMO. What they are filming is standard documentary fare based on the other parties involvement.

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[Guest LarryP]

We could speculate Noel jumped the gun on the DNA breakthroughs as well as nothing has published as of yet.

Unless he also gained access to the Ketchum material as well.

[Guest]

"4. What happened just outside of San Antonio, Texas, on September 6^th, 2012, has yielded several minutes of perfect, close-range film of a male Sasquatch—nearly nine feet tall—going about his business before being brutally gunned down. This footage, which matters to me far more than the frozen carcass, will soon be seen by millions as part of a Minnow Films documentary. The event occurred in a forest “tent city†where the towering visitor had been spotted for years, nabbing food from campsites, and where he had learned to lose his fear of humans and the natural stealth of an apex predator, surviving instead as a docile scavenger."

- Chris Noel

This is cleverly worded. He implies that he has seen the footage but does not say so explicitly. So how about it Chris? Can you confirm that you have seen a video several minutes long, as you describe above? Specifically NOT the tent video that we all have seen?

I also note the use of "just outside San Antonio." It seems to me that the above was put together from bits and pieces we have been discussing. Granted, I have not read the book yet. Can someone who has read it tell us if there is more ... does Chris claim that he has seen evidence, or are we to assume he writes about the incident just from stuff we all already know (or possibly from conversations with RD)?

[Guest WldHrtRnch]

And it does appear from reading the book on "look inside" on amazon that he has been privy to the DNA study. In the index the various sample and where and what they came from are listed.

He's a very talented writer.

Clever, indeed. I read it several times to make sure, but he does not say he has seen it. But very confident all the same. "This footage, which matters to me far more than the frozen carcass, will soon be seen by millions as part of a Minnow Films documentary"

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[Guest LarryP]

I think it's rather gratuitous for Noel to assume that Dyer did in fact kill a BF...but according to the quote you sited...that's exactly what Noel has done. Notice, he doesn't *IF DYER KILLED A BF, then.......* He acts as if he's verified Dyers story....which he has NOT.

You have no idea whether he has or has not seen the footage in order to verify Dyer's story.

[Guest]

You have no idea whether he has or has not seen the footage in order to verify Dyer's story.

Footage isn't enough. But I'll concede...we don't know if he saw a body or not. In my mind, if he was to make a statement so BOLD as to state matter of factly Dyer has killed a BF, then he should back it up. Otherwise, it's an empty assertion as far as I'm concerned.

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[Guest]

Thank you..and my appology for any comments thay may have offended Mr Noel.

[Guest]

Thanks! Don't want this to go the wrong way!

Any news on when we will "see" the video?

[Cisco]

This is cleverly worded. He implies that he has seen the footage but does not say so explicitly. So how about it Chris? Can you confirm that you have seen a video several minutes long, as you describe above? Specifically NOT the tent video that we all have seen?

I also note the use of "just outside San Antonio." It seems to me that the above was put together from bits and pieces we have been discussing. Granted, I have not read the book yet. Can someone who has read it tell us if there is more ... does Chris claim that he has seen evidence, or are we to assume he writes about the incident just from stuff we all already know (or possibly from conversations with RD)?

Very good observation, Belmar.

I had read this on Amazon but had not paid too much attention to it, until now. It's interesting that Chris does not state he's seen the footage with his own eyes. Instead, he writes that Minnow had footage of this shooting. Which is very interesting as we have not really discussed this aspect of the story.

I had assumed the footage of the shooting would NOT be shown in the film. Only because I don't think it exists. However, Chris writes that it will be shown to millions of people. An assumption, or was he told this by RD/ Minnow?

Now, if Chris is basing this on a conversation with RD, he's up a stream without a paddle and will end up with egg on his face.

I'd be curious to find out what Minnow thinks of Chris's statement? Who will volunteer to email it to them for an official response?

Also, he states this shooting took place in a "tent city just outside San Antonio." This tells me that the shooting happened in the exact place I went to, last weekend, behind Home Depot. It's now the only place, in this area, that has a large gathering of homeless people. Strictly speaking, this area is within the San Antonio city limits, but on the outskirts of the city. There are no homeless tent cities outside of the city because there are no resources to attract homeless people.

Maybe Chris is just another victim and RD was able to somehow convince him that he had footage of a Bigfoot shooting? It's certainly possible that Chris viewed the footage but I have a feeling he would have clearly stated this in his introduction.

As Belmar already noted, the introduction is cleverly written and it leads me to believe that Chris "heard" about it, instead of actually viewing it. This way, he can use it to help promote his book, without compromising his credibility.

It would be VERY helpful to all of us, if Chris could confirm whether or not his statement is based on actually seeing the footage or if he just heard about it from RD or another party.

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[Guest]

You may want to do search and view some Noel's videos. I don' think we will hear anything more on Dyer from him either. It's all speculation as to what he knows and how he came to know it. Dyer has never mentioned him ( as far as I know) and I don't think Dyer is the type of individual that Noel would be involved with in any way. Just my take.

[Guest]

Here's a quote from Chris Noel:

"As you'll see, this book contains several controversial standpoints, but I am confident that these controversies will die away shortly.  For instance, I have found out that the Rick Dyer claims are true. "

So it seems Noel is promoting Dyers claims.

Its the first post in the link below.

http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/35831-new-book-sasquatch-rising-2013/

[Guest DantheMan]

This is perhaps a little off topic now, but did anyone catch the end of Ricky's last podcast where he was talking about selling cars on eBay, and he specifically mentioned two corvettes........

One has to wonder if they were the same he was arrested for?