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I can understand the people who feel they’ve been burnt by people and situations like this in the past. But as the financial people say, “past performance is not an indication of future resultsâ€.

If this is true of companies and markets – and most of us seem to understand that it is – then it’s even MORE true of human beings. Human beings are organic, living, growing things. They change, sometimes over time, and sometimes quickly. They upset our expectations of them all the time.

Change (as they also say) is the only constant in life.

But in psychology there is proven research that indicates, "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior." Now this most likely is not air tight, but overall, and with humans, it tends to have validity. Change takes consistent work and practice and usually does not occur overnight, and often never occurs. Watching some of RD's videos and the various things I've read, I tend to think he's still on his same path.

I'm new to BF so I am not emotionally invested in the past hoaxes, haven't been burned. This is curious and entertaining and as you say, we have to be fine with being wrong. And I will be completely fine with that if it turns out to be the case.

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Wow! I need a sanity check here!

I googled Las Vegas promoter Bigfoot.

I found an article that a LV promoter in late 2011 says he was close to capturing BF and has been working with a director of a British film crew. Morgan Mathews with Minnow films.

Sound familiar?

Good find!

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But in psychology there is proven research that indicates, "The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior." Now this most likely is not air tight, but overall, and with humans, it tends to have validity. Change takes consistent work and practice and usually does not occur overnight, and often never occurs. Watching some of RD's videos and the various things I've read, I tend to think he's still on his same path.

Thanks. That "still on his same path" comment (which I kind of agree with) underscores my real point, which I don't think I made very well, which is that judgment isn't a good thing. Judging people brings grief to ourselves. (What we do to others is done to us.) RD may very well be "on the same path", but there might be a different outcome this time. We have to be prepared for change on all kinds of levels -- in people themselves; in what people do; and in what we THINK about what people do. And it's really the last element that's the important one. "Thinking" about people (judgments of them) isn't a good idea. We need to learn to be flexible in how we "think" of people. Fixity of opinion about people is not a good idea. It prevents learning and growing. We can't see nuance in anything if we get stuck in black and white -- so then we don't grow.

And some of the growing we do is in generosity. In patience. In kindness. Which is more important than being "right" (in my opinion). So the rush, or desire, to make a "prediction" about another person doesn't really honor what's best about the other person, OR about ourselves.

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WldhrtRnch said:

"The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior."

Absolutely correct. If Dyer has a dead bigfoot - I will eat crow with everyone else. But, the odds of me having to do that are slim to none. I would love for the question to be answered, that being "does bigfoot exist," because frankly I am tired of the question. But, do I think Dyer has done this? Absolutely not. I don't think I am being cynical - just realistic.

Personally I think this is a reboot of 2008 - with new targets. The unfortunate truth is we are surrounded by people who love nothing better than to poke fun at witnesses and what we do.

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I would love for the question be answered! Is BF real? I would hate it took a kill to do it, I would hate that RD did it!

I will eat the southern fried crow with a lot of folks! if I am wrong. i dont think i am. However, even though I am not from Missouri, but, "Show Me!"

A lot of interesting "coincidences" in this story!

Look at the players in 2008

The story in 2011

The ball is in RD court to prove. I'm not sure about what Musky Allen has to do with this. Unless he is:

1) he is in on it

Or

2) he is the target of humiliation.

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I used to think it was really important to consider the source whenever you were trying to get information about someone's statements. It was important to know that person's "agenda" before you could evaluate the information they were providing. But many times in life, I've found either that I agreed with that person, even if I later discovered that their "agenda" was completely different from the one ***I*** might have, OR that they abandoned (or changed) their own agenda at some later date, so it was never a reliable "predictor" in the first place.

People are complex -- but at bottom, they're trying to do what they see as the right thing.

from here; http://www.minnowfil...n-matthews.html

The word "theatrical" jumps out at me. Emphasis mine.

"Theatricality" doesn't equal "wrong" or "lie". :)

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Thanks so much Leaf Talker for your kind words for Jacki and I. :)

I am open-minded about this and I am really not afraid to be wrong.

It is not my story, it is RD's and Minnows so I want to see how it turns out. I also have some hope that people can change, it is rare but we can find examples of it.

I have read some snarky comments here and there about the naivete of those "green" supporters of Dyer, but the fact is no one has proven this is a hoax, IMHO there is actually more evidence to support Dyer's claims. So rather than being called gullible, etc., I think we have been, along with Cisco, (yay Cisco!), and others been doing our best to ferret out the truth.

British director Morgan Matthews said his documentary, tentatively titled “Of Monsters and Men,†will be a portrait of several men like Biscardi, who devote their lives to chasing mysterious creatures.

Read more at the San Francisco Examiner: http://www.sfexamine...e#ixzz2JZsLYdp2

Somewhere earlier in the thread this has been discussed. Along with Biscardi we also have some from CFZ, (not sure who), and Adam Davies, I am not sure who else.

So we have a mixed bag of respected individuals and Dyer and Biscardi, (presumably). The fact that Biscardi may be in the film does not really cause me any concern, not sure, but I don't think RD has much to do with that guy now.

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Yeah, we can all sit down to a crow meal together, lol. Thanks Melissa.

LeafTalker, I'm probably the least judgemental person you'll find. My profession requires it and I've spent a lifetime perfecting it. I do agree we grow as people, and treating others as we'd want to be treated is a moto I live by. If I were out there claiming to have a dead BF, I'd expect to be treated pretty much as the same as we are seeing here. Extrodinary claims require extrodinary proof.

"Theatricality" doesn't equal "wrong" or "lie". :)

I did not say that it did, I simply said it jumped out at me.

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Thanks so much Leaf Talker for your kind words for Jacki and I. :)

I am open-minded about this and I am really not afraid to be wrong.

It is not my story, it is RD's and Minnows so I want to see how it turns out.I also have some hope in the belief that people can change, it is rare but we can find examples of it.

I have read some snarky comments here and there about the naivete of those "green" supporters of Dyer, but the fact is no one has proven this is a hoax, IMHO there is actually more evidence to support Dyer's claims. So rather than being called gullible, etc., I think we have been, along with Cisco, (yay Cisco!), and others been doing our best to ferret out the truth.

I agree: "Yay, Cisco!" And I agree that there's more evidence to support Dyer's claims than there is "evidence" of a hoax. But I only know that because of you and Jacki. Because of your patient responses to everyone. Because of your calmness and your clarity. I want to be a calm person, but I'm not always. I can be defensive and frightened and over-react, even in print! When I've had time to think! So I thank you for helping me to keep an open mind. For helping me to stay calm and see possibilities where I would not otherwise have seen them.

Somewhere earlier in the thread this has been discussed. Along with Biscardi we also have some from CFZ, (not sure who), and Adam Davies, I am not sure who else.

So we have a mixed bag of respected individuals and Dyer and Biscardi, (presumably). The fact that Biscardi may be in the film does not really cause me any concern, not sure, but I don't think RD has much to do with that guy now.

"Even" Biscardi does not deserve what he's had to deal with. There are no villains here.

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People are very complex, but not all have integrity and honesty at the heart of their actions. I would hope RD has turned over a new leaf and would not hoax the BF community and bring more ridicule to serious researchers and witnesses.

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^ Thanks Leaf, I am not sure how much "clarity" that I am responsible for,lol, but this whole thing has made me very curious and I do love trying to solve a mystery. Although I could have done more after some of my phone calls and emails did not pan out I have given up somewhat going down that road, but I have been able to get a sense of what is going on from different sides and sources.. And that sense tells me that Rick may have a Bigfoot indeed.

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Jacki I don't really think Musky is a shill either.

I think people will think he most likely is because he is, to most of us, unknown.

Dyer would have to give him a lot of money or he would have to say he had been duped by the body. Either way I can not see why it would be worth it to him.

Think about it..why would Dyer pre-empt his *gig* with a premature showing of the so called body...risking the demise of his currently successfull hoax (as evidenced by this HUGE THREAD..LOL)...should Musky give this a thumbs down? NO WAY JOSE! The fix is in..either Musky confirms or Dyer throws in a wrench, foiling Musky. OK...ya'all are sayn'>>>yeah, but the body could be the real deal!! I have an oil field I'd like to sell ya..cheap too..LOL.

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