norseman Posted January 13, 2013 Admin Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I found a tree break up in the Selkirks this past fall while hunting. It was about eight feet in the air, and I didn't see any obvious broken snag tops or anything that could have hit it. It also didn't show typical elk or moose damage of being raked during the rut. Any thoughts on what it could be? Edited January 13, 2013 by norseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted January 13, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted January 13, 2013 How high? Healthy or diseased tree? Does snow/ice load lead to similar breaks around that area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted January 13, 2013 Admin Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 How high? Healthy or diseased tree? Does snow/ice load lead to similar breaks around that area? 1) Eight feet. 2) Healthy......the bottom of it is green and intact, doesn't have dwarf mistletoe. 3) Only break I found and no tree directly over the top of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted January 13, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted January 13, 2013 In that case very interesting, I couldn't scale height so it is a prospect I suppose. Any other environmental variables or habitat there that would fit a BF break? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedRatSnake Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am also thinking cold and ice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted January 13, 2013 Admin Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 I am also thinking cold and ice. I don't think so, the reason being is that during winter this tree should have been completely encapsulated by snow. It also appeared to me to be a much fresher break than something that had happened months earlier. The branches below the break were still green and moist. It takes about one month for my Douglas fir X mas tree to dry out and lose needles. It could be a bear I suppose, why he did what he did I don't know. In that case very interesting, I couldn't scale height so it is a prospect I suppose. Any other environmental variables or habitat there that would fit a BF break? It's a very remote place, the Selkirk mountains are apart of the Columbia mountains that extend far into British Columbia. In fact the Columbia mountains are the only interior mountain range left where Grizzly bear can still fish for native salmon stock outside of Alaska. It's also apart of the inland temperate rainforest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted January 13, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted January 13, 2013 OK, I'd say unless a wildlife biologist can refer to similar bear break pictures, you got something to go on. Ever attempt to check out the top of the tree on the ground and look for embedded hairs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedRatSnake Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 It looks exploded, it is a relatively common, a lighting strike could also be the culprit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted January 13, 2013 Admin Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 OK, I'd say unless a wildlife biologist can refer to similar bear break pictures, you got something to go on. Ever attempt to check out the top of the tree on the ground and look for embedded hairs? I didn't find anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SquatchinNY Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Interesting, though inconclusive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted January 13, 2013 Admin Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 It looks exploded, it is a relatively common, a lighting strike could also be the culprit. My experience as a fire fighter is that lightning will chose the tallest tree in the area.......this tree I would guess was 12 feet tall before the break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RedRatSnake Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The more experience we acquire, the more it should teach us anything is possible, well it is safe to say what ever did it, Nature was involved. Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted January 13, 2013 Admin Author Share Posted January 13, 2013 The more experience we acquire, the more it should teach us anything is possible, well it is safe to say what ever did it, Nature was involved. Tim True, nature or a known animal is a likely culprit. But I always remember this story I read as a teenager: http://bigfootforums.com/index.php?/topic/2727-russell-annabel/ Which makes a person a little tingly on the back of their neck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted January 13, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted January 13, 2013 (edited) I saw a broken Aspen in Utah that was similarly a green break about 8 to 10 feet high. It was a singular Aspen away from anything that could have brought it down besides an animal. Could it have been a moose, maybe if moose also remove 35 pound embedded rocks from the forest floor. Could it have been a bear..... possibly..... was it likely either, probably not. Edited January 13, 2013 by bipedalist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Thepattywagon Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 A UFO landed on it maybe? Interesting tree break. I think some of these are great evidence of the big guy. I don't know exactly what snow and ice is capable of doing to a tree like that, but when I see pics of tree breaks here in Florida like these, I know it can't be attributed to snow and ice. Thanks Norseman! http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=34426 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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