Habituators Evidence

[Sunflower]

I was with the Army Corps of Engineers many years ago, '65 to '69 and never heard or saw the documents being discussed here.

[Guest]

Just search this forum with the words "hoax" or "hoaxer" and read the various comments and you will have your answer.

Anything that completely counters and therefore disrupts human beings pre-conceived notions of what they perceive to be reality is a huge paradigm shift that they have to try to digest mentally.

Well, yes, a paradigm shift would be a paradigm shift. That's certainly true. My question is why would this challenge people's "preconceived notions of what they believe to be reality?" Outside of the bigfoot community, do you really think people care so much that we'd have mass hysteria? I don't see it. I think most people would see the story and say "Oh, well, that's interesting. Who's Taylor Swift's new boyfriend?"

[Oonjerah]

I agree, LC, that most people wouldn't care much.

I see the paradigm shift problem as mostly confined to the USA & maybe AU, where folks

are committed to mythical Bigfoot plus their right & duty to make fun of Bf proponents.

Such would be resentful and cling to their denial. In countries with large rural populations,

I suspect Yeti et al have always been accepted.

I think most here would say, "Well, how about that?" shrug, and return to business.

However, if Bigfoot is outed this year, at the height of the 411 books, there'd also be

a sector screaming about that implication, and wanting assurance and protection from this

cannibal predator. If that had enough impact, we'd probably see a lot of conflict between

Bigfoot lovers and Bigfoot haters. There could be a bit of hysteria; many thrive on it.

[Guest]

It's all in how the press spins it...

Sharks in 1973 compared to sharks in 2013.

[Bonehead74]

Well, yes, a paradigm shift would be a paradigm shift. That's certainly true. My question is why would this challenge people's "preconceived notions of what they believe to be reality?" Outside of the bigfoot community, do you really think people care so much that we'd have mass hysteria? I don't see it. I think most people would see the story and say "Oh, well, that's interesting. Who's Taylor Swift's new boyfriend?"

I agree, LC, that most people wouldn't care much.

I see the paradigm shift problem as mostly confined to the USA & maybe AU, where folks

are committed to mythical Bigfoot plus their right & duty to make fun of Bf proponents.

Such would be resentful and cling to their denial. In countries with large rural populations,

I suspect Yeti et al have always been accepted.

I think most here would say, "Well, how about that?" shrug, and return to business

Wouldn't the reaction depend on what sasquatch are discovered to be?

[Oonjerah]

Wouldn't the reaction depend on what sasquatch are discovered to be?

Maybe they are not something we can understand easily.

The reaction would depend on what sasquatch are perceived to be.

As FR said, "how the press spins it..."

Edited March 14, 2013 by Oonjerah

[Guest DWA]

Wouldn't the reaction depend on what sasquatch are discovered to be?

It definitely would. And if one goes on the preponderance of the evidence, it's not something that would exactly blow all primatological and anthropological thinking away. It's something plausible, that a number of specialists have commented on and anticipate adding to North American faunal lists.

Now if they are gettin' funky with us and passing that along to offspring, the discussion is slightly different. Then, my daughters start hiking armed. I mean, if I'm that kind of person.

[LeafTalker]

Now if they are gettin' funky with us and passing that along to offspring, the discussion is slightly different. Then, my daughters start hiking armed. I mean, if I'm that kind of person.

No worries, guys. Arming ourselves is not the way to deal with this. Don't open fire on the BF. Open your hearts, instead.

[Guest DWA]

I'll tell that to my daughters. Just to see the looks on their faces.

[LeafTalker]

I hiked alone in the heart of Paulides' 411 country as a young woman, and nobody came after me.

And I hiked alone because I had had too MUCH male attention in my life up to that point, thank you very much -- not too little.

We will all survive this.

Please, stay open and loving. No harm comes to a loving heart.

And I know you love your daughters, DWA, so you have one of those loving hearts, and no harm will come to you or anyone you love.

Edited March 14, 2013 by LeafTalker

[Guest]

I hiked alone in the heart of Paulides' 411 country as a young woman, and nobody came after me.

We will all survive this.

I like the way you think LeafTalker, no panic... just stay calm.

[LeafTalker]

I like the way you think LeafTalker, no panic... just stay calm.

Thanks, Didi. And yes, on the flip side of fear is an almost unimaginable beauty. As we look at the beauty, we continue to see more and more of it, until it blots out the other.

This isn't wishful thinking. This is how it works. So we can trust this, and be content.

[Guest]

I also think that fear influences BF behavior. There is nothing more dangerous or unpredictable than a human who is very afraid.

[LeafTalker]

I also think that fear influences BF behavior. There is nothing more dangerous or unpredictable than a human who is very afraid.

Yes. This.

Edited March 14, 2013 by LeafTalker

[Guest]

I also think that fear influences BF behavior. There is nothing more dangerous or unpredictable than a human who is very afraid.

If BF exists, I'd bet a scared BF is more dangerous than a scared human at close quarters.

However, if Bigfoot is outed this year, at the height of the 411 books, there'd also be

a sector screaming about that implication, and wanting assurance and protection from this

cannibal predator. If that had enough impact, we'd probably see a lot of conflict between

Bigfoot lovers and Bigfoot haters. There could be a bit of hysteria; many thrive on it.

Here's the thing though: who outside of the BF community and maybe C2C listeners has heard of the 411 books? They're self-published and they have pretty low sales.

Edited March 14, 2013 by leisureclass