southernyahoo Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I'm somewhere in camp 3 to 4. Genus homo with some throw back genetics. Certain things don't add up for it to be an incognazant animal or a purely human native. Following the evidence makes me a sort of hybrid camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Call it psychic ability or heightened intuition, if they are physically superior with the 5 senses than we are then some of their behavior might very well be attributed to psychic ability. Would increased perception necessarily make them as intelligent as a human, or close? I'm not so sure, but if discovered I can certainly see how their sheer strength could overshadow any other abilities that weren't obvious. Why would you need to develop heightened perception if you also had physical strength on your side? No other animal on earth ever found it necessary to evolve this way in order to survive the human presence on this planet. Either way, it would be in their best interest to promote a non threatening demeanor should the day of discovery ever happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 S. yahoo, again you make great points. Yesterday I was reading my new Smithsonian magazine and there is a great article called "The Mind On Fire". According to the article about 1 million years ago H. erectus started using fire to cook and for protection from night predators. Last year in a cave in S. Africa, the discovery of charred bone and primitive stone tools dated fire use 750,000 years earlier than previously thought! So if H. erectus used fire then to cook and kill bacteria and parasite's, if BF was H. erectus or a hybrid, wouldn't fire still be needed? After reading this article I guess I now have more ?'s than answers. I know meat eater's can be identified by the unique parasites present in their respective stomach's. I know Loren Coleman has a stool sample in his museum(supposedly from a yeti) that has an unidentified parasite present.. I would guess if BF used fire they would already be "discovered"!.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Very interesting topic apehuman. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I do think this has merit. For instance, I live in Southwestern Illinois and the Department of Natural Resources states that there are no Mountain Lions in this area. Not only are there numerous sightings, there are photos, and even a couple of bodies. http://mcleansborotimesleader.com/opinion/x91294939/Are-there-cougars-in-Southern-Illinois The DNR says that these are rogue cats but there's every indication we have a breeding population. I have friends who have pics of them from their game cams also. Apparently the Mountain Lions didn't get the memo from the Illinois DNR! So why don't the authorities want to acknowledge this? This may seem like a weak analogy, but why does the DNR refuse to recognize a known species which is happening to make a comeback? Some locals speculate that if the DNR refuse to recognize the presence of these cats then they don't have to deal with them. Could it be the same for BF? I'm not suggesting that the Illinois DNR has proof of the existence of BF in this state and is covering it up - but based on the fact that this government agency is ignoring proof of the existence of a species - perhaps others do as well. I could only speculate on the reasons for the cover-up. While I encourage the effort to reach some disclosure I'm skeptical as to how effective this strategy might be. It seems that the government can do a good job of covering up when they want to. I'm pretty cynical but I think that this could be an effective way to answer the question of whether or not there is proof of BF. It's going to take more than witness testimony - even from highly credible witnesses - it's going to take a body. That seems to be the place where these threads often end up doesn't it? Edited May 29, 2013 by RJM0521 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) yes, I agree..and odd i think too we haven't a confirmed body.... interesting about the cats. I ran into something a little similar..in that we saw a gray wolf pair last trip (and the big tracks...came right past camp midday)...and according to FW nope...but we dug deeper...according to rancher yes..and apparently the University documented the pair the prior year.....and yet? FW claims no official knowledge and on their website still only point to a place of reintroduction.. (although we did talk with one ranger at the site..and he felt on wolves best to keep quiet as ranchers are quite opposed and will shoot them...who knows) part of the problem seems to be, if it isn't directly my job I ignore...and for BF that might be enough..just ignore those peasant witnesses...the UFO phenomenon has more interest for all the above stated reasons. But, for BF witnesses it is darn important...and how to be effective? Why is my government so silent? I can get worked up, when one considers the number of citizens that have dealt with this taboo...and all the cast aside efforts for fifty years.... nice article RJM051..they have to have breeding populations...sounds like what we hear with BF witnesses too..nicely written. Edited May 29, 2013 by apehuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) People disavow knowledge it would produce headaches to acknowledge. That simple. If hunters can shoot it great! If they can't... and it kills what they can shoot... headache. Edited May 29, 2013 by DWA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) H2 channel has last night's Book of Secrets: Bigfoot available online for a while anyway: http://www.history.com/shows/americas-book-of-secrets/videos/americas-book-of-secrets-the-mystery-of-bigfoot?cmpid=MRSS_Google_HIS#americas-book-of-secrets-the-mystery-of-bigfoot There is a focus on disclosure thru William Jevning's efforts, Meldrum even gets in a punch in for John M.. (too hard to spell!) Points for addressing both commercialism and disclosure Edited June 2, 2013 by apehuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted June 2, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted June 2, 2013 Mionczynski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) yeah? hhehe I am not plussing that! Did you watch the program? Edited June 2, 2013 by apehuman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Saw the show and really liked it. I DVR'd to watch again. Really enjoyed the segment on The Falcon Project and the secret special NV camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 I do think there is movement forward, maybe glacial, maybe not... plussed for an opinion, although I imagine there is a thread somewhere featuring the show... it was nice to see new faces too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted June 2, 2013 BFF Patron Share Posted June 2, 2013 Anna Nekaris and Steve Kulls got alot of airtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhaige Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Not a bad show, I do have quite bit of respect for Will Jevning and his contributions in general. I also like Anna Nekaris for her open mindedness, so it was good to see he and her in there. Nothing too new really here otherwise though. I would have liked the whole finding BF like sequence led by Steve Kulls to be left out for some other kind of analysis, I just find that kind of approach more sensationalism than research , no offence to he or any fans of his work. I just think they are going about it as if the SSq are a lot less intelligent that they really are. I see as much or more hope in OHZs work in the Hab thread and the subjects in his vid than anything in recent memory to be honest and thats right here in our own BFF. So me thinks it will be discovery first before disclosure as far as mass acceptance, as for me I feel somewhat miles ahead of these kinds of shows, not to sound arrogant, there just my facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 Thepaige I think I agree, and felt the Kulls stuff was classic FB...and no offense as well.. and yet, yeah...wake up guys....I know someone who has put up trail cams, and monitoring for five years without hardly any adjustment to poor results until just recently....still not of the caliber required IMO but at least he seems to be changing what doesn't work....and I think we have demonstrated for at least a decade that IR doesn't work.... or lots of boots with walkie talkies..... they would do better with one good thermal imager, patience and less "cool stuff." One would have to want those lollipops pretty bad to walk into that group! Bipedalist.. yes, I was also taught to say only good things, but am a rebellions child... The production value was low but in the face of potentially no real profit I understand..recall the South Park episode on History Channel..too funny..and the old Linda Molten Howe..and a few other cips are rehashed.... but, I did really appreciate Jennings segment and focus...Ro seemed an oxymoron in some ways discussing commercialism..and yet who would know better...! I am done with youtubes of fluff though (and never was too much for them) if it is netting thousands per month...geez! But, overall..it was not FB or MQ....although light too in some ways....I actually wrote Ro once, urging a type of "show" and the response was as one would expect..he views his job to entertain as much as inform...makes it very tough.. and for those of us who are entertained with information...strange response! I am making so many friends in BFdom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 2, 2013 Share Posted June 2, 2013 (edited) Heh, if the government really knows Bigfoot exists, I wonder if they have any eyes or ears on the online Bigfooting community. I've seen a few people get busted for having illegal fish on fish forums because wildlife agencies were checking up on the forums for such activity. Makes ya wonder. Anyway, as far as individuals or Bigfoot organizations with evidence, I say as soon as you confirm what it is, you disclose it. None of that "release date" Nonsense. There is no preparation involved if the evidence you have is an unaltered film or photograph, or physical biological evidence. If you choose not to disclose it at all, that's true too. But none of that "maybe we will, maybe we wont" crap. It makes us all look like Crocker from the Fairly Odd Parents. Edited June 4, 2013 by BigGinger To Edit Offensive Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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