NathanFooter Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 To clear up a bit on this , I had read that several troops of baboons have hitched rides on car, trucks and if I am not mistaken trains to get to new areas where there is a larger food supply. Primates take shortcuts to better them selves, from stealing food to riding on moving objects to get where they want to go. One other example, there is a few troops of baboons that live in semi urban on the edge of a large dumpsite where they forage through the garbage, they are in constant competition with wild dogs and other baboons so the baboons began to steal dog pups and raise them to adult hood therefore merging them with the group. The baboons did this because it was an advantage, the dogs act as a defense against other dogs and troop and as an alarm to let the troop know ahead of time of danger. Nothing is off limits to brainy primates if it is advantageous to them. Now on large hauling trains not occupied by a volume of passengers it is an easy no disturbance ride from point A to point B. Sasquatch most likely do not regularly do this but I can see how it could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Ridin' the rails... Ike, Apparently you don't get out much. Pigeons will hitch a ride in NY to get to the other side of the river. The joke's on you hahaha!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Interestingly enough, I have a neighbor just above me who uses his fire pit constantly .....and plays music while hanging around it. For some reason I never really considered that....hmmmm. I think they have been at the least moving through here for as long as we have been here due to power line right of way. But now that I think on it.....activity picked up once he started using the fire pit these last 2-3 years. And he is regular and predictable....every weekend, unless rain or snow. His backyard also looks out on the right of way and the woods. Hubby and I laughed that he was drawing the Big Guy in but now I wonder. Neighbor has no idea about the Big Guy but his girlfriend does. She says she saw a bear watching them from the brush one time. I didn't see it so I don't know.....but I know we have bears on the hill but not the size she said if her estimate was correct. So maybe you could do something like he has inadvertently done. It was probably mistaken identity since BFs and bears can look the same. Bears would be scared off by the fire and music from my limited knowledge but BF would be drawn to the fire. Has anyone heard of a BF coming in close to town and stripping an apple tree? In our small town, our neighbor said his small apple tree was mysteriously stripped of apples one day. His home was next to a creek canyon that went through town and the tree was in his fenced yard 30' from his home. I suppose human thieves were the culprits but have always wondered about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 If the sasquatch is human like some researchers think, than it makes perfect sense for them to be seen in urban areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branco Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It was probably mistaken identity since BFs and bears can look the same. Bears would be scared off by the fire and music from my limited knowledge but BF would be drawn to the fire. Has anyone heard of a BF coming in close to town and stripping an apple tree? In our small town, our neighbor said his small apple tree was mysteriously stripped of apples one day. His home was next to a creek canyon that went through town and the tree was in his fenced yard 30' from his home. I suppose human thieves were the culprits but have always wondered about it. Georgerm: There have been dozen of reports that confirm they do, usually overnight, strip all the fruit from apple, pear and peach trees. I have investigated and written about some of those and I'll try to find one and post it on the "Some Reports" thread I started. Linked below is and interesting one from Chilton County, AL that was investigated by the Sheriff's office. The Deputy was impressed by the tracks. http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_article.asp?id=418 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightheart Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 My dad had some blueberries bushes that were stripped over night. This is on the Greenbrier River backed up to Watoga State Park in WV. The BFRO does expeditions and has had a lot of activity right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 My parents had a 20' peach tree stripped one night....top to bottom ....not one peach left even on the ground. They assumed it was human thieves. Maybe. The tree was not in sight of the road, yard, etc. so they decided a bear did it. They are rural. It remains a curious ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Wouldn't human activity be the logical conclusion of fruit trees / bushes being harvested clean of their produce? If there were tracks or even a sighting of the big guy in the area at that same evening, then it's an ever-so-slight possibility. But for a tree to simply be denuded of its fruit does not imply anything except human activity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cervelo Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 (edited) My dad had some blueberries bushes that were stripped over night. This is on the Greenbrier River backed up to Watoga State Park in WV. The BFRO does expeditions and has had a lot of activity right there. Most likely candidate..Bear Edited December 14, 2013 by Cervelo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Wouldn't human activity be the logical conclusion of fruit trees / bushes being harvested clean of their produce? If there were tracks or even a sighting of the big guy in the area at that same evening, then it's an ever-so-slight possibility. But for a tree to simply be denuded of its fruit does not imply anything except human activity. ...or a bigfoot, but thanks for keeping us open to less-likely possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incorrigible1 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 ...or a bigfoot, but thanks for keeping us open to less-likely possibilities. Or maybe a giraffe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Couldn't be an okapi, though. Neck all wrong. One of the plains varieties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
georgerm Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 (edited) Thanks for the video Cervelo. That was an agile bear and a hungry one. The apple tree if robbed by a human would have taken place at night with the help of a ladder. Just a bold robber, taking a big chance by going over a fence with a ladder and bucket next to an old mans small house. Most of the time a human is the culprit but BF or a bear are secondary suspects depending on the details of the site and robbery. This site was next to a forested creek gully that connects to vast pine forest. Edited December 15, 2013 by georgerm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ike Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Since a few seem to miss or not appreciate my sense of humor, let's dig a bit deeper and address the meat of the matter shall we? To Sunflower I don't know what kind of personal swipe you're trying to take, but there's no joke on me. Birds commonly ride on hippopotamai as well, so what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? If your implication is that pigeons ride trains in New York, ergo bigfeet ride trains as well, allow me to introduce you to the concept of apples and oranges. Random birds landing on random trains and just happening to go along for the ride is quite a different concept than said birds deliberately catching a lift from the Brooklyn to Manhattan for a fine dining experience. When you can demonstrate that earthbound forest animals such as bears, moose, elk, bobcats, deer, et al hop trains for the express purpose to commute to the next town or feeding ground over, you might have something that could potentially spill over to an unknown primate following suit. However, I'll go so far as to state that you will be exceptionally hard pressed to find any of these animals even accidentally going for rides on trains, much less doing it on purpose. Be sure to let us know when you can provide those documented reports. To go one better, there have been numerous accounts of foreign nationals hiding in the landing gear wells of airplanes entering the US, so why no reports of bigfeet doing that? On second thought...don't answer that question...I wouldn't want to be the one responsible for starting that bit of bigfootery "fact." Moving onwards and upwards, I would be more intrigued to see why the concepts such as those that Nathan states: "Primates take shortcuts to better them selves, from stealing food to riding on moving objects to get where they want to go," and "Nothing is off limits to brainy primates if it is advantageous to them" haven't been taken to task yet (not him personally, but the concept). Overall, I am prone to agree with those statements, albeit with small reservations. Specifically, I'm not aware of reports on monkeys deliberately hopping trains to go places...conceivable I suppose, but if so, I seriously doubt they have a destination in mind. Nonetheless, this philosophy doesn't jive well with a certain cadre of folks on here that have shall we say...a more "liberal" view of bigfoot. I don't have to dig too far to find all kinds of comments with emphatic statements that 'bigfeet can (and have) operate digital cameras if they choose to, but don't want or need modern human conveniences like fire, tools, or wheels.' I can't wait to see the verbal contortion act to explain away why these creatures, who as so many on here say "is smarter than humans" consciously choose to live like animals or pre-humans, yet have lower themselves to modern human level in order to catch a train to go visit relatives. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanFooter Posted December 15, 2013 Share Posted December 15, 2013 Moving onwards and upwards, I would be more intrigued to see why the concepts such as those that Nathan states: "Primates take shortcuts to better them selves, from stealing food to riding on moving objects to get where they want to go," and "Nothing is off limits to brainy primates if it is advantageous to them" haven't been taken to task yet (not him personally, but the concept). It was documented by NatGeo , it was on one of their programs and can easily be found on youtube. I was not meaning to imply that that they know exactly where they are going when they hitch a ride, sorry if this was confusing. I am not sure what you mean when you reference certain points and statements not being taken to task, I have seen a great deal of this in other threads here. In my particular case, I believe it is just that most here find me to be honest and know I am not just making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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