Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Who said it would require the human female to be the one to contribute the DNA? But there are stories of females being abducted. Zana being one of them. It would seem that one of the prerequisites for this particular Act would require the remains to be over 50 years old. But that doesn't mean there aren't other laws on the books that could be brought up if a newer decedent. Gotta run... Who is Zana? Was she abducted and sexually abused by an animal? I just can not believe that. How many mammal cross species sexual encounters do you know about? Much less bearing children. Do we have the skeleton's showing this has happened anywhere, or anytime? Edited March 24, 2011 by Susiq2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who said it would require the human female to be the one to contribute the DNA? But there are stories of females being abducted. Zana being one of them. It would seem that one of the prerequisites for this particular Act would require the remains to be over 50 years old. But that doesn't mean there aren't other laws on the books that could be brought up if a newer decedent. Gotta run... It takes 2 sets of DNA to make anything mammal or above, and below except in some really rare exceptions. I remember asexual reproduction, but not at this level of mammal species... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I got out of there quietly and left them alone. I'm not suggesting it was me. The point is that humans do things like you described, and that makes human action infinitely more likely than bigfoot action to explain your experience. If folks leave "them" alone when they experience such things then they could be passing up a golden opportunity to either make the scientific discovery of the century or rid themselves of irrational fears of the outdoors. Either way, it seems to me that sticking around to confirm the source is a win-win. For example, if I had been pre-disposed to fearing the sound of laughing children in the woods, I might have left in fear and been deprived of one of my most glorious experiences ever in nature when I finally got a look at those swans in the moonlight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BDK Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who is Zana? Was she abducted and sexually abused by an animal? I just can not believe that. How many mammal cross species sexual encounters do you know about? Much less bearing children. Do we have the skeleton's showing this has happened anywhere, or anytime? Not sure who Zana is hopefully someone else chimes in with that one. Hmmm how to phrase this...Mammal cross species encounters I knew a kid in high school that attempted this a few times when same species encounters never occured... Ok you may vomit now. Theres also accounts more scientifically documented of Dolphins noticing human females in estrus, and I think a few tales of apes and humans. As for ones that led to bearing children? No never outside of the Family Guy episode involving Ted Turner and a greyhound. But in theory, if BF is a close dna realitive then I suppose it would be quite possible for cross breeds. Not entirely sure I want to see the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 It takes 2 sets of DNA to make anything mammal or above, and below except in some really rare exceptions. I remember asexual reproduction, but not at this level of mammal species... He's talkin about a man impregnating a female squatch..... And yes while the thought disgusts me too, I suppose the "act" itself is possible... whether it would result in a pregnancy ?? who knows.... be an ugly sucker if you ask me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Who is Zana? Was she abducted and sexually abused by an animal? I just can not believe that. How many mammal cross species sexual encounters do you know about? Much less bearing children. Do we have the skeleton's showing this has happened anywhere, or anytime? From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia....ryptozoology%29 Alleged captive Almas A wildwoman named Zana is said to have lived in the isolated mountain village of T'khina fifty miles from Sukhumi in Abkhazia in the Caucasus; some have speculated she may have been an Almas, but hard evidence is lacking. Captured in the mountains in 1850, she was at first violent towards her captors but soon became domesticated and, indeed, was able to assist with simple household chores. Zana is said to have had sexual relations with a man of the village named Edgi Genaba, and gave birth to a number of children of apparently normal human appearance. Several of these children, however, died in infancy. Some commentators have attributed these early deaths to Zana's genetic incompatibility (as an Almas) with humans. The father, meanwhile, gave away four of the surviving children to local families. The two boys, Dzhanda and Khwit Sabekia (born 1878 and 1884), and the two girls, Kodzhanar and Gamasa Sabekia (born 1880 and 1882), were assimilated into normal society, married, and had families of their own. Zana herself died in 1890. The skull of Khwit (also spelled Kvit) is still extant, and was examined by Dr. Grover Krantz in the early 1990s. He pronounced it to be entirely modern, with no Neandertal features at all. If Krantz's verdict on the skull is correct, and the skull itself is indeed that of Zana's son, it would indicate that Zana may have been a member of an isolated hunter gatherer tribe so culturally different from her captors' society as to make Zana seem non-human to them, even though she was indeed a modern human. How this may relate to the true identity of other reported Almases is unknown.[9] Another case is said to date from around 1941, shortly after the German invasion of the USSR. A "wild man" was captured somewhere in the Caucasus by a detachment of the Red Army. He appeared human, but was covered in fine, dark hair. Interrogation revealed his apparent inability (or unwillingness) to speak, and the unfortunate creature is said to have been shot as a German spy. There are various versions of this legend in the cryptozoological literature, and, as with other Almas reports, hard proof is absent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 He's talkin about a man impregnating a female squatch..... And yes while the thought disgusts me too, I suppose the "act" itself is possible... whether it would result in a pregnancy ?? who knows.... be an ugly sucker if you ask me... My thoughts are how many pieces said man would be in *after* * attempting* such a ridiculous thing. I'm calling hubby. He truly knows everything, and he is a pathologist, so he has to *know* everything! Yikes, Now tell me how to explain a skeleton containing human and ape DNA. I hope he does not ask me to leave the forums..after he asks me what in heck I'm talking about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Surely we have a genetics specialist on these forums. Hubby is out of his office, I left a message to call me. He will as soon as he can...He always does. A skeleton with human and ape DNA from cross species breeding just can't happen, IMHO. Have you seen the pictures of BF and Patty? Would you guys try to touch her, or run the *other* way. No skeleton could have that DNA mix. Has a gorilla had a half human half ape baby? Do we have that skeleton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BDK Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Surely we have a genetics specialist on these forums. Hubby is out of his office, I left a message to call me. He will as soon as he can...He always does. A skeleton with human and ape DNA from cross species breeding just can't happen, IMHO. Have you seen the pictures of BF and Patty? Would you guys try to touch her, or run the *other* way. No skeleton could have that DNA mix. Has a gorilla had a half human half ape baby? Do we have that skeleton? You're assuming sasquatch would be a straight ape in DNA, in that case no it wouldn't work. Mating would be possible but nothing could be produced as far as I understand genetics. BUT in the case of neanderthal or something else closer to a homo sapian genetic code, it could become possible. And if it was of a closer decent, it could in fact be attracted to males or females of our species just due to phermones, scents etc even if actual impregnation wasn't possible the physical attractants would still exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobZenor Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Humans apparently mated successfully with at least Neanderthals and Denisova. Based on mitochondria, which isn't the whole story, Neanderthals diverged from modern humans about half a million years years ago and Denisova about a million years years ago. Denisova does apparently have closer affiliation with Neaderthals so they may be closer of they may have also mated with Neanderthals in their past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Hubby called. There are no cross species with ape-human-Bigfoot genes in any order or amount.. He stated that it cannot happen. I asked about the woman that was mentioned here, and hubby said that she had a major genetic disorder, but was human. He said no apes nor BF nor human woman or Bigfoot woman could produce a cross species offspring. So no skeletons can show up with those markers. When we find a BF skeleton, it will be totally a product of the BF species, with any and all various characteristics of that genus or *species*. Not that my hubby believes in BF, but he knows a lot of stuff.. Now if we can just claim the skeleton we find.... it would be terrible to lose it to NA and not be able to verify and categorize the new species. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 Not that my hubby believes in BF, but he knows a lot of stuff.. I'm glad those two aren't mutually exclusive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Jodie, on the subject of pointy heads, Human skulls seem to be mallable as they develope, something as simple as how a sasquatch sleeps could potentially acount for their skull shape. http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_6.htm That's true in the NICU where a child can't turn itself so ends up with the "butterbean" head syndrome. I've never seen a skull form a point unless it has open fontanels and needed to mold as it goes through the birth canal during vaginal delivery. This is temporary and usually the kid's head goes back to normal after about a week. After the fontanels close, no molding of the head occurs. As for that skull you linked me, that is some kind horrific birth defect in my opinion. Edited March 24, 2011 by Jodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 I'm glad those two aren't mutually exclusive! [/quote I almost went off topic to answer you. Luckily I know better. Hopefully any BF bones will be able to categorically bring the species forth from the shadows.. and prove their existence. No More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Forbig Posted March 24, 2011 Share Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) I've read some old stories of Giant Skeletons being found then later buried without really being able to identify what they were of. http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F4081FF7385416738DDDA90A94DA415B8785F0D3 Then there's ones like this that make you wonder if maybe they didn't know what they had... maybe this was a Sasquatch. Edited March 24, 2011 by Forbig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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