Invisible Bigfoot & Alternative Thinking

[Guest Biggie]

Too funny barlow. That sounds like some clip that should have been in a Mel Brooks movie.

[Guest Kronprinz Adam]

Wouldn't it be easier for a sasquatch to step behind a tree than to step into another dimension?

Probably the Sasquatch produces something on our bodies that we get disoriented...

1. Some people says, it is simply the primal fear of the witness, which can disorient the people...

2. Other says that the Sasquatch can produce infrasounds, which he can use as a defense...(think on the ultrasound used by dolphins)

3. Other people says that it is this the stench produced by the sasquatch, which is very intense...

4. Another theory is that the sasquatch has some psychic powers, some telephaty, and that maybe early humans also had some "native powers" which were forgotten later....

Of course these are only the theories I have read, there is no scientific proof of anything!!! Enjoy.

K. Adam.

[Guest]

Too funny barlow. That sounds like some clip that should have been in a Mel Brooks movie.

It's the real plot of the TV series from 2000 called "The Invisible Man". A criminal is recruited to be a spy for some agency, they don't find out it's a bigfoot brain gland until the first episode of the second season. Netflix only has the first season on DVD only, not on demand. IIRC he gets some unwanted lovin' from an amorous male BF because his gland originated in a female!

[Guest]

I also found the report of the kid in China really encouragin as it means those genes reside in us somewhere. I am a witness to intense blue eyshine that actually projected a diffuse blusish light and I could track where the Sas was looking in my tent by that glow. The eyes were about 6' from me at a height of about 7' as I was in a pop out tent trailer. The intensity of the shine enough that the glass window above the sink reflected back the eyes and it took a few seconds to figure out which window he was at. I say he b/c my comfortable realtionship was with a juvenile and it's mother/guardian. I assume this the old man as his visits were much more sparing. He was not approving as I had an NV gen 3+ set up wrapped in a tee shirt and that is what had his attention. NV lens emit light, yeah so much it records on video. I had several stations set up that trip and only those not under NV were "hit." I can also attest to, though I am reluctant to, the "pwer" of an adult Sasquatch mind. Without detail just let me say that his message was clear, it went something like..yes, you are "dog' but old and domestic, we are wild dog and my children beautiful, chase them down, you die. LOl all that in words? No, amazingly in images...a tremendous fast lucid dream..like I don;t know..a 1 minute dream so intense that I awoke startled, unaccustomed to dreaming out there (often slipping in and out of light sleep during night). What happened? Where there pheremones so close that alerted my mind? Is there telepathy? I guess that depends on if you beleive there is telepathy among humans? I don't know the answer...all I can say is Pop had no problem revealing his eyes at close range to let me know he knew...funny part? I left all the windows open that night to indicate I had nothing to hide...and wrapped tha camera in a teeshirt. That stupid NV lens light...LOL he knew! Did they forgive me? Yep, but it gave me pause. Jr was a little guy the first season, but the thirds year his prints were over 15' and perhaps too bold familair with me. It is a threat to them I guess really, this familiarzation we call "habituation,' and it was that trip that changed my mind about who they were etc..well not just that trip, that growth ocurred every trip...but this time I think I got it. it's a Dad and Mom trying to raise their kid in their culture safely. That depends on not knowing me, as kind as I might feel, I am an old domestic dog and they are wolves...? This is probably too personal for this forum...but it's one of those things, well not much I can do with it or about it...but cherish it.

[Guest MikeG]

I also found the report of the kid in China really encouragin as it means those genes reside in us somewhere.

I am a witness to intense blue eyshine that actually projected a diffuse blusish light and I could track where the Sas was looking in my tent by that glow. The eyes were about 6' from me at a height of about 7' as I was in a pop out tent trailer. The intensity of the shine enough that the glass window above the sink reflected back the eyes and it took a few seconds to figure out which window he was at.

I say he b/c my comfortable realtionship was with a juvenile and it's mother/guardian. I assume this the old man as his visits were much more sparing. He was not approving as I had an NV gen 3+ set up wrapped in a tee shirt and that is what had his attention. NV lens emit light, yeah so much it records on video. I had several stations set up that trip and only those not under NV were "hit."

I can also attest to, though I am reluctant to, the "pwer" of an adult Sasquatch mind. Without detail just let me say that his message was clear, it went something like..yes, you are "dog' but old and domestic, we are wild dog and my children beautiful, chase them down, you die. LOl all that in words? No, amazingly in images...a tremendous fast lucid dream..like I don;t know..a 1 minute dream so intense that I awoke startled, unaccustomed to dreaming out there (often slipping in and out of light sleep during night).

What happened? Where there pheremones so close that alerted my mind? Is there telepathy?

I guess that depends on if you beleive there is telepathy among humans? I don't know the answer...all I can say is Pop had no problem revealing his eyes at close range to let me know he knew...funny part?

I left all the windows open that night to indicate I had nothing to hide...and wrapped tha camera in a teeshirt. That stupid NV lens light...LOL he knew!

Did they forgive me? Yep, but it gave me pause. Jr was a little guy the first season, but the thirds year his prints were over 15' and perhaps too bold familair with me. It is a threat to them I guess really, this familiarzation we call "habituation,' and it was that trip that changed my mind about who they were etc..well not just that trip, that growth ocurred every trip...but this time I think I got it. it's a Dad and Mom trying to raise their kid in their culture safely. That depends on not knowing me, as kind as I might feel, I am an old domestic dog and they are wolves...?

This is probably too personal for this forum...but it's one of those things, well not much I can do with it or about it...but cherish it.

I've no comment on the content..........but, goodness, things are so much easier to read if there is the odd paragraph here and there!

Mike

Edited January 27, 2012 by MikeG

[Guest]

Apehuman, mr. Mike means to break posts up into paragraphs, because it's difficult to read a long unbroken post. White space in there helps readers.

Your "dream" is pretty interesting. As to psychic abilities, it is sometimes reported, right? Witnesses will sometimes say "I got a message...." "I knew it was an ambush....," "I knew I was told to leave..."-- that kind of thing. I don't know the stat s of how often that happens, but I think maybe....5% would be my guess. Maybe someone has a database or access to one that has that information? Anyway, your account is not that outlandish IMO.

I think the analogy, that we are like dogs and they are like wolves, is very apt, and an interesting comparison. Their children are beautiful. So are ours.

If the dad is so protective, I wonder why he is not there all the time. What is up with that? Where wojuld he go? Vegas? Business trip? To visit his secret Canadian family?

[Guest BuzzardEater]

If the dad is so protective, I wonder why he is not there all the time. What is up with that? Where would he go? Vegas? Business trip? To visit his secret Canadian family?

I think of the Dad as the military arm. You don't trot out the big guns on contact unless you are trying to start something.

I am often surprised by Sasquatches remarkable restraint. Sending a dream is subtle!

Thanks to ApeHuman for sharing that experience. I don't know who to admire more, the Sasquatch for thier subtlety or the human for his courage. This is why I come here every day. Wow!

If the dad is so protective, I wonder why he is not there all the time. What is up with that? Where would he go? Vegas? Business trip? To visit his secret Canadian family?

I think of the Dad as the military arm. You don't trot out the big guns on contact unless you are trying to start something.

I am often surprised by Sasquatches remarkable restraint. Sending a dream is subtle!

Thanks to ApeHuman for sharing that experience. I don't know who to admire more, the Sasquatch for thier subtlety or the human for his courage. This is why I come here every day. Wow!

So nice, I said it twice!

[Martin]

Here is a report from 1994 from a guy by the name of Brent:

My purpose is to report my 1994 encounter to the BigFoot investigative community at large.

Here is My 1994 Encounter:

I have been going to Lake Curlew in NE Washington State for 30 years. It is 10 miles north of the town of Republic. In 1994, my immediate family and I rented a small cabin on the lake at one of the resorts.

We go there to fish, lie in the sun and have a good time and the fishing is very good there. It was mid July and it was very dry and hot. This area of Washington State is arid in the summer and cold in the winter. It is sparsely populated with Ponderosa pine and a small human population.

The third evening that we were there,,we had gone fishing and caught a lot of trout. I cleaned them and put their guts in the garbage can outside of our cabin. I mention this because I have always believed that these fish guts brought the lead BF into the resort. Lately, I am not convinced of that.

At about 2:30 AM I was awoken by something. I knew not what it was,,,but I was just about to fall back asleep when the encounter happened. It was at that point that I lied awake for the next 5 minutes or so and listened as two animals spoke back and forth to each other. I say animals,,but the fact is that I really do not know what they were. I am inclined to believe that they were BF because of my comprehensive encounter.

There was this one right at the cabin and another one was way back in the bush. I call them animals now,,but I soon realized as I lied there that they were BigFeet. One knows immediately what you have when this kind of an experience happens to you.

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The one at the cabin was the lead animal. I could tell from the time intervals between their responses that they were 800-1000 yards apart. They had a very sophisticated communication going back and forth. I have been to many BF web sites with BF vocalization audio. Frankly they mostly sound like a bunch of monkeys in the bush. That one audio report from Ohio was simply horse pucky!

The one back in the bush was asking the one at the cabin if it was OK to come on in. She asked it at least 6 times during the course of the episode. I say “she†because it was obvious to me that the one at the cabin was male by his aggressiveness. She was REALLY nervous and I don’t think that she wanted to come in,,,but she kept asking him if it was OK. She was the better communicator with a more sophisticated and wider ranged speech pattern.

Her communications threads were along the line of, “Is it OK to come in? Is it OK? Is it OK to come in? Is it OKâ€? She was REALLY nervous and it was obvious to me that he was the “pointâ€. I believe that she was only one of a number lying back in the weeds. I do not know that from anything that I sensed or heard, but I could tell that he was the lead group member. They tend to work as a team with one of their big boys going in first. He was REALLY big and I would guess around 800 lbs. and very tall. I say this because an 800 pound animal under 6 feet is probably a very big fatso. I am drawing on my Physics classes that explained “scaling†to me.

At one point right near the end of the experience,,,,he became quite nervous too. I got the very distinct impression that he had an internal clock going and knew that he had a window of time that he was working with. I also sensed that he knew that I was awake in the cabin. This guy was very LOUD, however he did not seem to care that he was alerting anyone with his talk.

I have been asked to characterize their speech and vocalizations. So,,,I went out on an Internet search to see if I could find anything like it. None of the BF audio, I listened to sounded even close. I did listen to an audio sampling at Ron Morehead’s site that had a small amount of similarity to what I heard. It is still possible for me today to remember what I heard because it was so different. I can somewhat imitate the guy outside of my cabin,,,although when I did so for a so-called BF investigator a few weeks ago,,,I about coughed up a lung doing it. I was not able to get that power into it,,,and I am 280 pounds and 6â€5â€. This BF investigator mentioned the low end of a lion’s roar and that comes close to it.

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I am a degreed Communications major with many years of audio, video and film production under my belt. Those of us in this industry refer to the audio projection I heard as “powerâ€. It is nearly impossible for a human to have that low end to one’s voice and yet able to project without distortion and noise. That is one of the reasons that I was able to gauge the size of this guy outside of my cabin. It is really an easy extrapolation skill,,and then if you couple that with the physics law of “scalingâ€,,,you can come close to estimating the size of the animal.

I will digress at this time by listing a number of mental images that are still with me today as follows:

Large Animal- In the range of 800-1000 lbs. Again, I gauged this from the power and intensity of his voice.

Hungry Animal- He was brought in by the smell of the fresh fish guts that I had thrown into the garbage can earlier that evening. NB: I am not convinced today however that this was the main reason hat he was there. It occurs to me that an

animal of this size must eat all of the time and I am sure that it knew that a few fish guts was not much of a lunch.

Extremely complex language and vernacular- It’s modulation was controlled with an articulation that demonstrated speech patterns. Their discourse was timed for the distance between the two. I do not believe that their tongues played a major part,,but rather they used their whole body to project and more likely their lungs played the biggest role. They did not talk over each other, but each waited until the other one had finished. Methinks that is because of the distance involved between the two. I am reminded of a one-second delay when I have spoken on a satellite phone to people. Each realizes that they must listen fully, pause and then respond. Most common bush animals do not do this.

I lived and worked at my Grandfather’s logging and tourist camp in the wilds of Ontario, Canada. I used to lie awake at night and listen to the wolves howl. They were usually miles apart from each other and yet could talk back and forth,,,however,,,a wolf generally does not wait for the other one to finish before he replies. I have been told many times by the F&B side of the aisle that I was hearing a bear, Elk, ad infinitum that morning. I know what these animals sound like in the wilds and I believe that many of these naysayers have never even camped out in the bush,,,let alone heard these animals in the wild.

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Strange sense of impaired cognitive capacities- This is the meat and substance of my encounter. It is difficult to put this into words. In the audio business we call it “Harmonic Resonanceâ€. This is like you throwing a rock into a pond. It makes harmonic ripples. If you throw another one in shortly thereafter, you will see that the ripples from the first stone interfere with the ripples from the second stone. In the audio recording world, we call it “Dis-harmonic resonanceâ€. It is also termed as “Noiseâ€.

The animal outside of my cabin was able to manipulate cognitive resonance and in essence generated “noise†into the surrounding environment to soften or eliminate my thoughts. If you don’t think that this is possible,,,one should consider what Airline companies are doing to eliminate noise in the cabin of the aircraft. They are able to eliminate 80% of the noise in the cabin by generating other noise that “cancels out†the noise you hear as a passenger. This is what this animal did to me that morning!

I am a trained Photographer and had all of the gear with me and for some reason I did not even consider snapping off the shot of my life! I did not wake my wife or anyone else within our cabin to alert them of what was going on right by them. In fact, I do not believe that anyone else inside of my cabin or anyone else within the resort heard this creature. This guy was LOUD!

I did not look out through my window with a flashlight and I shortly fell back to sleep. This is one of the most confusing aspects of my encounter. I am a very curious person by nature and would not have simply gone back to sleep. Some folks on the other side of the BF aisle had told me that I was dreaming, that I was drunk, that I was having a dream manifestation, that I was just plain chicken, or that it was a bear. When this happens to you, then you will know immediately what is occurring and that you are not dreaming.

The creature knew that I was awake in the cabin. He was very nervous of this and when he became aware of it,,he hurried himself and “conformed to a time windowâ€. The female out in the bush was afraid from the outset and hurried him in the last few moments of the encounter. She kept saying, “What is happening,,,what is going on,,,what is happening, hurry up, hurry upâ€. I could clearly understand her….. not in terms of human language but I knew what she was saying.

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About 5 hours later at 7:30 AM, I told asked my cabin occupants if they heard all of that racket earlier in the morning. They had heard nothing. I explained my encounter and a few of us went up to the resort store and told the resort owner what had happened. The resort owner just snickered at me. I could tell however that he had heard that type of story before. This would not be good PR for his resort,,contrary to what some people think.

I want to end my report by telling everyone who reads it that Ray Ambrosini and his web site have given me an opportunity to tell my story in all of it’s details. Ray did not threaten me, tell me I was crazy, ban me from his web site, or send cookies to my home computer. One web site actually defaulted me to a vulgar Brittany Spears and Mr. “T†site when I tried to access his web site. This good doctor deleted all of my “discussion forum†postings and other postings from his members that questioned his beliefs. I had two other major BF web sites ban me for trying to file my report because it had the smell of “paranormal†associated with it.

Ray has given me an open slate at his web site,,,,,and for that I am deeply appreciative. I am a simple person that had a complex experience in NE Washington State in 1994. I just wanted to report it to the BigFoot community. I had no idea that the community was so fractured in it’s beliefs,,nor to the extent that some felt it necessary to threaten me, ban me and call me crazy. I would go so far as to say that some on the flesh and blood side of the aisle have a “cult†mentality with a “fascist†slant to them. I had a number of these cult members email me away from their web site membership and tell me how they are afraid to speak unless it conforms to the leader of the web site and the flesh and blood philosophy. So what are they afraid of? I can only imagine how main players in this controversy must be treated.

I do not know, but I would like for others who read my encounter to educate me. That is my story.

RayG suggested Sleep Paralysis at the time.

Edited January 27, 2012 by Martin

[Guest]

Apehuman, mr. Mike means to break posts up into paragraphs, because it's difficult to read a long unbroken post. White space in there helps readers.

Your "dream" is pretty interesting. As to psychic abilities, it is sometimes reported, right? Witnesses will sometimes say "I got a message...." "I knew it was an ambush....," "I knew I was told to leave..."-- that kind of thing. I don't know the stat s of how often that happens, but I think maybe....5% would be my guess. Maybe someone has a database or access to one that has that information? Anyway, your account is not that outlandish IMO.

I think the analogy, that we are like dogs and they are like wolves, is very apt, and an interesting comparison. Their children are beautiful. So are ours.

If the dad is so protective, I wonder why he is not there all the time. What is up with that? Where wojuld he go? Vegas? Business trip? To visit his secret Canadian family?

he is there in the area yes, each morning before dawn he 'hwoled/scremed" from where the main hunting was..the Mom and Kid (and I suspect and even younger one as I saw 5" prints on three occssions) stayed in a pastoral valley most of the night.

The kid often just hung around camp it seemed..so my impression was he was being weaned and too young to follow dad but too big to be carried and left on own in that small say about 20 acre meadow valley. Mom often vocalized and got responses, of course it was two species of birds talking..that was the tip off the first year..

But, I think like us, Moms and kids (and teenagers) dont always tell Dad exactly what is going on:) An event one moring I think upset him and caused the visit that night. I interupted their three way communication and accidently fooled Jr..my best guess...and Dad came over to see just who I was...again, LOL so yes there wa evidence of the 19" print now and then, but rarely...

She and Jr would visit often and I held prolonged eyeshine to eye contact on more than one occassion.,Their eyes were amber and did increase and decrease in shine intensity.

not in modd to edit sorry.

[Guest]

Not sure what happened, my computer went to blue screen when I tried to edit above post, feeling guilty about not being in "modd" to edit! I am on a wireless rural server and when it acts up the simple act of editing can end up like today. I got kicked off the net, goes to blue screen and then could not get back on the internet.

I left one point out...each morn those howls screams are answered and the three vocal ones join and head up the mt...all three species...

So, I have documented most of what I claim, in digital media, some casts...but, the effort to tell this story with the detail of discovery, to lead one not there down a similar path of discovery is hard work! is it worth it? Not right now anyway. I am doing some, and have a little help...but it is a spare time thing now as my circumstance much busier than then.

Edited January 28, 2012 by apehuman

[Guest]

The site was down most of the day, maybe you were on when it went down causing you browser to crash and windows along with it.

That's an awesome experience , hope you have more of them.

Edited January 28, 2012 by Biggie
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[Guest Biggie]

Zig and everyone else, the admin prefers that we don't quote the previous post immediately ahead of ours when we reply to it. Thanks.

[Guest mitch]

This story I linked below is somewhat long, but very very intriguing, in that is has examples of bigfoot being both extremely intelligent,for example, hiding its tracks and somehow knowing when the witness is carrying his gun or not! As well as some hints of something else going on, with its sudden appearances out of nowhere and the observers notes of almost feeling hypnotized by its eyes. Definitely one of the most unique encounters I've ever read! Found it on the UHS discussions, from the Alabama Bigfoot site.

http://www.bigfootstudy.com/forums/index.php?topic=325.0

Sorry, not sure if I posted that link correctly? My apologies if you need to copy and paste? But excellent and thought provoking story if true!?

Also, although I've studied and read extensively my whole life on bigfoot, I never really explored or put much weight into the possible paranormal aspect. Whats interesting though, is that once I started reading a bit on some of the Russian studies of their version of bigfoot, the almas or almasty, some similarites started to stand out in regards to the paranormal or psychic. Just like some of our NA beliefs, a large portion of peasants and others of the native population over there,for generations, all had stories or believed that the almas could hypnotize a man into forgetting about an encounter or trick ones mind into not seeing an almas that was standing in plain view. As well as some other pyschic abilities. Just interesting that two different populations of people on opposite sides of the globe that had no contact, would share similar beliefs about a supposed creature and its unique abilites.

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[bipedalist]

Yes, I remember reading that one on the Alabama forum a while back. The noises in the habituation made by the young one and older adult were as interesting as the intelligence of the approach. It certainly explains a lack of tracks in many respects I think.

Unidentified, coos, grunts and whistle/screeches are what really keyed me into the awareness of these beings (that and a little Samurai never hurts, lol).

I think this one was discussed on the older forums and I think there should be a good thread in archives when they post up sometime.

[Whistler]

I'm won't say it isn't a possibility that these creatures are able to cloak themselves somehow, but I have read many reports that say they just simply disappeared. My theory on it is that they're essentially great at magic and fooling the eye. The bigger and older you are- the better magician you have to be.. Unless you want to be seen that is- just a though...