Guest Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 What "status quo" would bigfoot upset if it where human? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I wonder if any of the early explorers ever tried to get BF to sign a treaty. If so, the treaty might have gotten eaten. (Omnivore.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronD Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) What "status quo" would bigfoot upset if it where human? Rules forbid us to mention anything further on that--join the PMP and we can elaborate there Edited February 12, 2014 by AaronD spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 I remember once reading somewhere that the skunk ape's helped the Seminole's fight Union troops during the Seminole Wars. That could explain why the Seminole's won and kept their land. I wish I could remember where I saw that.. Anyone else know about that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 "One of the stories Herbert Jim shared with us about sasquatches took place during one of the Seminole Wars. The Seminole Wars were a time in US history when the United States Government was basically trying to exterminate the Seminole Indians because they, along with the Creeks and other local tribes, were strongly resisting relocation onto reservations. The Seminoles chose to fight their oppressors and were chased into the unoccupied wilds of the Florida swamps by the US military. Herbert told us that while the Seminoles were being pursued southwards, the "hairy men" would fight the soldiers during the night, but disappear during the day and leave the fighting to the Seminoles until dusk again. According to Herbert's story, sasquatches literally fought alongside the indians as they were forced southward! " http://www.northamericanbigfoot.com/2011/06/herbert-jim.html Not sure what's going on with the white in black text stuff.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LarryP Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Or if something about BF, once proven, is tantamount to proof of something alien, paranormal, from the field of religion, or something that SERIOUSLY rewrites our understanding of human history in a way that has political implications. Another thing that could destabilize the status quo is proof of a cover-up. If we prove BF exists and that our gov't has covered it up, we would ask much more forcefully what else has been covered up. That might be the reason to maintain a cover up now even if it's determined not to be useful in and of itself. Project Bluebook being a perfect example of both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Thanks Cotter!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^No problemo! I have been helped similarly in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead74 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Project Bluebook being a perfect example of both. Blue Book was an Air Force PR campaign whose goal was to gather, then systematically debunk the reports submitted to them. "Nothing to see here, folks." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Hello All, I would like to refocus this thread as it's beginning to meander a bit. "Is Sasqautch a Secret?". My reasons for the answer being "yes" (there are others). My post #72: The premise here is that the agencies listed at the beginging of the thread, at least at the top of each Know Sasquatch exists because ALL of them are in a capacity to have experienced the animal in it's habitat even if that habitat was being engulfed in flames. Of being utilized in fraking operations, or being crisscrossed by surveyors, and the logging industry. The Department of the interior oversees all of them and issues permits for the use, or abuse of public lands. The sasquatch live on those public lands so acknowledgement of existence opens up a more that likely unpalpable situation. Look at the highly escalated activities involved in the fraking industry. Colorado alone: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Colorado_and_fracking "The number of active oil and gas wells in Colorado almost doubled from 22,228 in 2000 to 43,354 in 2010. Analysts believe there is more oil shale and shale gas to be found in the state.%5B1%5D Pushing the lease growth is the discovery of oil in the Niobrara shale, which sits more than 6,000 feet below the Front Range of the Rocky Mountains. The oil is not uniformly distributed in the vast shale and limestone formation, which stretches from southern Colorado into Wyoming." And my post #42: I'm saying that I find it impossible to think there is no type specimen anywhere. I'm presenting the cattle mutilations and radiation in Colorado from Space Alien visitation to be subterfuge to cover up radiation from the use of underground nuclear explosives early in Colorado by oil companies engaging in fraking activities. The cow mutilations themselves stemming from uprooted groups of Sasquatch who vacated the fraking areas and were hungry. I'm calling the sightings of these creatures as a result of logging, clearcutting, and oil exploration techniques, I'm citing the department of interior and it's sub agencies as little more than energy resource barons who, knowing Sasquatch exists, issued corporate permits anyway on public lands. A lot of the logging on public lands now is coming to a slow crawl but the profit bought up large parcels that are now privately owned and much of the logging has moved there instead. I move that a Sasquatch presence or any official recognition would be economically disasterous and if any knowledge about a Sasquatch were known it would create an outcry and blow the lid off the activities of the past 100 years to include strip mining, hill scalping, and other operations as well. Now one could say that the public face in the proponents camp would be Dr. Meldrum, NAWAC, the BFRO etc. but I still do not understand that there is absolutely nothing officially mentioned anywhere in all the agencies on the previously posted lists. As in yes,they exist or no, they don't....there's absolutely nothing. Government knows everything- that's there job. So what gives? And as I said in the beginning...the qualifier for this thread is the assumption that Sasquatch exists. For those that have actually seen a Sasquatch I've been trying to account for why the official silence. Reasons for why Sasquatch is a secret. And there it is folks. How many times has it been said to follow the money? That's what I'm doing. There's nothing paranormal, alien, interdimensional, or anything of the sort. It's not even evolutionary, religious, no political ideologies, nothing. Just plain old greed and economics. No one wants those public lands closed for any reason! No one wants the public to know that the oil companies wield such power that they can get NUCLEAR DEVICES exploded under Colorado for the purposes of FRAKING. There's nothing anyone can do about it but any pressure on agencies just might get them to say, "Okay, okay, your stupid animal is real ALRIGHT?" Now leave us alone. Edited February 12, 2014 by hiflier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Blue Book was an Air Force PR campaign whose goal was to gather, then systematically debunk the reports submitted to them. "Nothing to see here, folks." Or "Nothing to see here, folks" was the conclusion they came to after investigating the phenomenon in depth. Just because a bunch of people are seeing the same thing doesn't mean a bunch of people can't be wrong about what they are seeing. Edited February 12, 2014 by Leftfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 12, 2014 Author Share Posted February 12, 2014 Hello Leftfoot, No you're right it doesn't mean a bunch of people can't be wrong. I suppose you have a way to prove that? Even after the Condon Report, issued by the Denver group that assessed the Blue Book, admitted 7% of the sighting couldn't be explained. The rest? Meh. Misidentified natural or manmade objects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 I think a more accurate assesment is that 7% wasn't explained, not couldn't be explained. It's an important distinction that Ufologists like to ignore. Now, do I believe in extraterrestrial life? Sure. It's a huge universe and I think it would be a lot odder if there wasn't any. I just don't think there are any visiting Earth. This is wildly off topic though so I think I'll leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lightheart Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Cotter, I too was told by the Traditional Seminoles that the "Big Man" fought alongside them during the Seminole wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiflier Posted February 13, 2014 Author Share Posted February 13, 2014 Hello Leftfoot, Good point my friend, and with that I'll let it go as well. Hello Cotter and lightheart, It would be interesting to see if there is a report from the government side describing those incidences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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