georgerm Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 Here are a few of the incidents when bigfoot was reported to be shot. If true, what does it take to get BF listed as a species? Why have none of these BF ever made it to a science building? Are there still buried BFs that could be located? "From 1884-present, a 125 year period, 32 Bigfoots have been shot dead by humans, hunters or otherwise. Humans kill or take into custody Bigfoots or their bodies once every 3.9 years or about once every 4 years. In most cases, after the Bigfoot was shot it was simply left in the woods where it fell. In some cases, it was buried. In the modern era, people who shot Bigfoots were often afraid to talk about it for fear of being prosecuted. They often thought that they had killed some sort of a human being and would be prosecuted for manslaughter or homicide........" The site link below shows more reported BF shooting deaths........interesting http://www.bigfootlunchclub.com/2011/05/humans-shoot-and-kill-bigfoot-on.html 7. July 4, 1884: East of Yale, British Colombia. “Jacko†captured by railroad men8. 1900: Prince of Wales Island, Alaska. An Eskimo shot and buried a Bigfoot.9. 1921: Terrebone, Louisiana. Hunters killed a Bigfoot and dumped the body in an old well.10. 1924: Ape Canyon, Washington. Near Mt. St. Helens, miners shoot and kill a Bigfoot11. 1928: South Bentnick Arm, near Bella Coola, British Colombia. On the coast of central British Colombia, George Talleo shot and killed a Bigfoot.12. After 1937: Green River, Washington. In the Cascades east of Tacoma, a hunter saw a bear grubbing in a log and shot and killed it. Turned out he had killed a Bigfoot.13. 1940: Southeastern Missouri. Jared Sparks killed an apparent Bigfoot (he described it only as “like a gorillaâ€)14. Fall 1941: Near Basket Lake, Manitoba. A 17 year old boy hunting out of season shot and killed a Bigfoot that he thought was a moose.
Sasfooty Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 I heard about some hunters in southern Arkansas that shot & killed two "monkey men" sometime (I think) in the '50s. My daughter in law lived near there a few years & had heard rumors of the incident from relatives. It's been quite awhile since we've talked about it, & I've forgotten many of the details, but somebody she knew had a newspaper clipping about it. She said that the hunters came home with them in the back of their truck & were showing them off. Before long, some game wardens came & took them away & nothing was ever heard from them again. They must not have been the gigantic variety.....
Guest Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 Some of these are likely BS like the "Bugs" story from Coast to Coast although it shure came of sounding good when you listen
dmaker Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 Here are a few of the incidents when bigfoot was reported to be shot. If true, what does it take to get BF listed as a species? Why have none of these BF ever made it to a science building? Are there still buried BFs that could be located? It will require a body. Or a decent piece of one.
WSA Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 Yes, the "Why no body then?" question can be addressed with all the usual observations...from "Govt. conspircacy" to "fear of prosectuion, to "hoax." In the end though, none of it matters unless a body, bones or tissue is revealed, tested and confirmed. I'd say the target and what defines success if very clearly delineated. Anything outside of the bull's eye is more of a distraction than information.
Guest Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 The majority are probably BS. With such a lack of info and the age of these aledged incidents, there is no way to ever know really. Perhaps jus tone day someone can investigate some claims such as these and the original shooters were still around and just maybe their story involved them burying the remains.. Yeah Right Hello BUGS !
Guest JiggyPotamus Posted May 7, 2014 Posted May 7, 2014 No body? Didn't happen.... No. Just no. Considering you weren't there during any of these incidents, you should admit that you do not know with any certainty what did or did not happen. You may believe that they did not happen, but that is not proof. Non-believers do this same thing...They want proof for all the claims that run counter to their beliefs, but they themselves make claims with nothing to back them up. Anyway, from a strictly mathematical point of view, a sasquatch must have been shot and killed at some point from the time Europeans began settling North America until now. If you believe bigfoot exist of course. There are multiple problems when it comes to older cases. For one they are difficult to research because all of the involved parties are deceased, and any information must come from what was written at the time, which is usually not very much. But the main problem associated with shooting a bigfoot at such a time would have been lines of communication. Today it is easier to get the word out about an occurrence, and you could have a plethora of people at a location fairly quickly, not to mention the ease with which a case could be documented. Then there are the logistical problems associated with killing a sasquatch. If the animal is big, how are you supposed to get it out of the woods? The further into the wilderness one is, the more difficult this problem becomes. Now I will admit one thing when it comes to shooting cases...It is difficult to believe that at no point did a body make it back to civilization. Even with a multitude of problems to overcome after shooting a sasquatch, at some point these problems WOULD be overcome, and a body would make it back from the woods. It is probable. The idea that the shooter immediately regrets what he has done, or does so after getting a closer look at the body, is completely understandable. Having seen a sasquatch I can say that pulling the trigger on one would not be as easy as pulling the trigger on a deer. They are inherently human in appearance, aside from their hair and a few other noticeable differences. But obviously they are more than a "dumb" animal. I would have a hard time shooting one, but I suppose I could do it IF it were for proving the species. But that is different from someone who shoots it because it looks like a monster, and then examines it and realizes just how human it looks. None of these people would have known what the heck was going on. It would have been confusing. Many people maybe wouldn't think there would be anything to gain from reporting what they had done, while there could potentially be backlash of some sort. So while it is believable that some people simply buried the animal and didn't report the incident, I cannot buy the idea that this is the explanation for all such occurrences. So even with the logistical problems and the problem of overcoming one's emotions and fear or reprisal, these explanations are not sufficient enough. There is another obstacle however, although not everyone would agree with the following statement, which is that a certain group within a government agency has actively been involved in ensuring that such cases do not come to light. Sounds far-fetched upon initially hearing it right? First, there are cases of sasquatch being struck by cars, where they lie dead in the road. In some of these cases the authorities were called and the body removed, and that is the last anyone ever heard of the event. Now I do not believe that law enforcement officials would cover up such an incident alone in every single case. I can definitely see the authorities attempting to get in touch with some wildlife department, and thus the incident reaches the ears of the government. And when I say "government" I do not mean the president, congressmen, etc...I would assume that this group would have "ears" in the wildlife department in various places, as that is who is most likely to be contacted in the event that a sasquatch body is found. I am personally convinced that some group under the protection of the wildlife department of the government has studied sasquatch thoroughly. There was the report of the military unit that served as escort to government scientists out looking for "something," purportedly a sasquatch. There are the reports surrounding the government treating injured sasquatch in the fires after the Mt. St. Helen's eruption. There are more reports relating to government involvement in such occurrences. There are reports of the military capturing video evidence on cameras used to monitor and secure military bases as well, and such things WOULD reach the ears of those affiliated with wildlife within the government, because who else would they call? They would go to the people who are tasked with managing and understanding wildlife. So this is not that far-fetched. The thing that is hard to understand is just why they would wish to keep such a thing a secret, but it could be that they don't want throngs of people out harassing the animals. Then there is the fact that certain interest groups would not want their businesses to suffer from the inevitable protection that MUST be extended to such an animal. If such an animal were proven to exist then it would come to light that these creatures roam vast stretches of the country. It would be common knowledge that they needed ample room to maintain their species. And as such, new safe havens would have to be established, and would be established, and this would cut into the profits of certain industries, considering that land that was used for commercial purposes could likely be hijacked and turned into bigfoot sanctuaries. So there are multiple reasons why something like this would kept hidden, including the fact that tourism could greatly suffer to wilderness areas such as national parks. There are some people who, if they KNEW an 8 foot tall monster was out there, would not wish to go "out there." Think of the witnesses who have not returned to the woods because of their encounters. There are a number of such individuals. Even though it seems likely a body would have been discovered and brought to the attention of the world by this point, this is not the case if there is a government group who is actually attempting to cover up such a fact. That would explain the discrepancy sufficiently. Look, I don't know any of this to be fact. I am just stating conjecture. All I am saying is that it is possible, and it could explain the lack of discovery in our modern world. But there is also the idea that perhaps not that many have been shot. If only a few have been shot, then it is possible that those doing the shooting simply didn't want the matter public for fear of reprisal. The fewer cases there truly are, the easier it is to explain why we don't have a body. Here is the bottom line from my point of view. I KNOW these animals exist, as I've seen one. This is not conjecture, this is not an opinion, this is a fact from my own experience. I know thousands of people who would agree with me, and this is totally different from the OPINION of some that bigfoot does not exist. There is a huge difference between seeing something and therefore knowing it exists, and not seeing something and therefore knowing it does not exist. Know what I mean? So I KNOW there MUST be a logical reason to explain why a body has not been found. I don't know what that reason is, but there has got to be one. Perhaps it is a combination of things, as I mentioned earlier. I don't know. All I can do is look at possibilities at this point. And if it is possible, then it could be the explanation. One day we will know. All we can do at this point is raise awareness and hope to get lucky, hope that someone gets the evidence that researchers have been seeking for decades. It will happen. It MUST happen. When I do not know, but I hope it is soon. Attempting to tell those whose life experience does not encompass bigfoot that the animal exists is getting exhausting, lol.
Guest keninsc Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 BS for sure, the only way you're going to be able to prove you shot a Bigfoot is to bring out the body......or body parts; heads, hands and feet, then come back for the body the next day. No body or body parts? Then no credit for having shot one, shoot, I shot two aliens over the course of my life one was a Zeta Reticulan and the other was one of then Alpha Centurians, I didn't bring in the bodies because I was all afraid of what might happen to me, so I just buried then where they fell. Can't remember where it was any more, but I've shot two of them. Yes Sir, two of them. But I won't get any credit for the kills, at least that was what the guys from the government told me when they showed up in their big black sedan. "I shot Bigfoot" stories are a dime a dozen and all end the same way with no body and no evidence......just a nice story to tell around the campfire. Now if you ever have a body then I'm all about it, but until then, don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining.
OnlyASize12 Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Here are a few of the incidents when bigfoot was reported to be shot. If true, what does it take to get BF listed as a species? There really is no difference between these shooting reports and other bigfoot reports. They are claims of an event occurring. Those claims may be honest and valid, but without the body (or bones), they are simply stories that have the same credence as any other sighting report. Decades-old reports aren't really of particular importance in my eyes. if someone said that they had shot a squatch 3 months ago...and thought they could find where they had buried the body...NOW you've got my interest. That is a short enough time-frame to say that you might be able to recover bones...even if the body had been scavenged. Tim
georgerm Posted May 8, 2014 Author Posted May 8, 2014 (edited) Here are a few of the incidents when bigfoot was reported to be shot. If true, what does it take to get BF listed as a species? Why have none of these BF ever made it to a science building? I'm not............repeat not............. saying these 32 reports = proof..................the question is why did none of the dead bigfoots reach scientists that declare new species? My point is new species discoveries are missed by science over and over......................x 100 and over again. Norse, does this answer your question? Are there still buried BFs that could be located? There are some individuals out there, that probably know where the BFs were buried. If some could track down these stories, and find one buried skull, then we don't need to kill more BF for proof. One reason for posting this was many skeptics ask me, "If bigfoot exist, then why have the multitude of hunters never brought one in for proof?" This in my answer and out of 32 reports let's say 16 are true, now we have replies to those who ask this. Some readers could find the BFRO reports or look in other places to find the details of these 32 reports. I've found two in BFRO but lost their location. Even though it seems likely a body would have been discovered and brought to the attention of the world by this point, this is not the case if there is a government group who is actually attempting to cover up such a fact. Many people maybe wouldn't think there would be anything to gain from reporting what they had done, while there could potentially be backlash of some sort. So while it is believable that some people simply buried the animal and didn't report the incident, I cannot buy the idea that this is the explanation for all such occurrences. Well written post Jiggy. One shooter said BF looked so human, he buried it and worried about killing some kind of human. This was a BFRO report somewhere. Edited May 8, 2014 by georgerm
hiflier Posted May 8, 2014 Posted May 8, 2014 Hello georgerm, In thinking about some of this I have to say that the time and effort it would take to actually bury a Sasqautch would be major. I haven't looked at the time of year of any of these but if any occurred in winter and claimed burial then it could indicate a lie. I guess the task of burying a BF isn't something I personally would look forward to........and that's if I even had a shovel with me as part of my hunting gear?
MIB Posted May 8, 2014 Moderator Posted May 8, 2014 The effort to bury bigfoot does not have to be trivial for someone to do it. If someone thinks they've shot some sort of person and perceives, realistically or otherwise, the consequences they face for it to be a couple decades in prison, the effort to dig a hole might suddenly seem very worthwhile and manageable indeed. MIB 1
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