Cotter Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/skookum2.jpg http://i847.photobucket.com/albums/ab34/wolftrax2009/skookumelkprints.jpg http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=1758470&postcount=1 It's literally as plain as the nose on your face. Wow that is excellent proof!.....tell ya what - I'll give you the skookum lay with that if you give me the PGF with this: http://www.isu.edu/rhi/pdf/ANALYSIS%20INTEGRITY%20OF%20THE%20PATTERSON-GIMLIN%20FILM%20IMAGE_final.pdf Or does that door not swing both ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 ^ " A comprehensive study of these issues of contention has determined that the film was not altered or otherwise tampered with for deceptive intent, and that the image quality is sufficient for factual analysis of the nature of the subject as depicted." I agree... the PGF film wasn't altered and it can be analyzed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitakaze Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Wow that is excellent proof!.....tell ya what - I'll give you the skookum lay with that if you give me the PGF with this: http://www.isu.edu/rhi/pdf/ANALYSIS%20INTEGRITY%20OF%20THE%20PATTERSON-GIMLIN%20FILM%20IMAGE_final.pdf Or does that door not swing both ways? Sure, I'll accept that as sufficient proof that first generations copies of the PGF do not show evidence of splicing. It does not in any way prove what the actual film subject is. You're also giving me a paper from the same author that continues to push that elk lay as a really real Bigfoot when anyone with non-fortean glazed eye can see how plainly obvious what it is when properly pointed out.The same author that used Bigfoot science and sticking to the footage to label the Snow Walker footage as real before looking into the source...32:35 - 37:54... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigsnowwalker.jpgThe same author who argues for the validity of Todd Standing muppet comedy... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigmeldrum1.jpg The same author that argues for Paul Freeman Jimmy Dean sausagefoots...http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigfreeman1.jpgThe same author that promotes Ray Wallace American folk art being made by Patty... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigwallace12-1.jpgThe same author who supports all of these...http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/bigmeld.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigwallace31.jpgYes, the door swings both ways. When it swings yours it just happens to comically, over and over fall off its hinges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teegunn Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Yes, a little different. Googling "Todd Disotell Bigfoot" shows no one complaining about his hairstyle... https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=todd+disotell+bigfoot The only people complaining were the people who jumped to huge cliche'd conclusions and put words and meaning into something that was never intended nor alluded to and was just actually a little bit of funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Divergent1 Posted September 11, 2014 Share Posted September 11, 2014 It was funny, and the Simpsons catch made me think of this in regard to Dr. Disotell. http://kurtcocaine.deviantart.com/art/Sir-Sideshow-Bob-206589468 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted September 12, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 12, 2014 Wait. The Skookum Cast is just an Elk Lay? Minus the hoof prints of it standing directly up out of the lay of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitakaze Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hoof prints in yellow...http://s847.photobucket.com/user/wolftrax2009/media/skookumelkprints.jpg.html The cast itself with no overlay for comparison...http://www.bigfoot-lives.com/skookum5.jpg Once pointed out the hoofprints in the cast are clear as day. It's literally screaming elk lay and it fooled Bigfootery's elite of researchers...http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/skookum2.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 This is the problem with enthusiasts playing scientists/biologists in the woods--no matter how versed we may be in hiking, hunting and as woodsmen, we are STILL laymen. Excitement causes a lot of credible people to lose credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted September 12, 2014 Admin Share Posted September 12, 2014 Hoof prints in yellow... http://s847.photobucket.com/user/wolftrax2009/media/skookumelkprints.jpg.html The cast itself with no overlay for comparison... http://www.bigfoot-lives.com/skookum5.jpg Once pointed out the hoofprints in the cast are clear as day. It's literally screaming elk lay and it fooled Bigfootery's elite of researchers... http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/skookum2.jpg As a Elk hunter? I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 (edited) Sure, I'll accept that as sufficient proof that first generations copies of the PGF do not show evidence of splicing. It does not in any way prove what the actual film subject is. You're also giving me a paper from the same author that continues to push that elk lay as a really real Bigfoot when anyone with non-fortean glazed eye can see how plainly obvious what it is when properly pointed out. In your opinion as you have not offered any proof. Just some color coded pic of the lay - have you inspected the actual cast at all? Just curious. The same author that used Bigfoot science and sticking to the footage to label the Snow Walker footage as real before looking into the source... 32:35 - 37:54... *vid removed* http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigsnowwalker.jpg In 2011, but is he not entitled to change his mind? And has he since then? (I really don't know if Dr. Meldrum is pushing this at his appearances these days) The same author who argues for the validity of Todd Standing muppet comedy... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigmeldrum1.jpg LOL! Nice wordsmithing! But Jeff's comment is not 'arguing' for anything. Nor is it innaccurate in my opinion. Is it my understading that you feel we are looking at a completely mechanical/fabricated subject in that pic/film? If so, care to offer any real evidence/proof of it? The same author that argues for Paul Freeman Jimmy Dean sausagefoots... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigfreeman1.jpg Proof these are faked? (Is there proof or is it just based on Freeman's hoaxing past?) The same author that promotes Ray Wallace American folk art being made by Patty... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigwallace12-1.jpg The same author who supports all of these... http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/bigmeld.jpg http://i1137.photobucket.com/albums/n520/DJKitakaze/Bigwallace31.jpg And you can offer proof all of those are faked? Or again, is it just your opinion. Now, please show us all the proof of what you say is true and not just your opinion based on your bigfoot 'research'. Yes, the door swings both ways. When it swings yours it just happens to comically, over and over fall off its hinges. In your opinion as you have offered nothing but photos and no first hand evalation of any of the evidence. Arm chairing at best. (Oh, and in your opinion, how much of the paper that I linked was actually written by Dr. Meldrum? Seems to me that Mr. Munns wrote the lion share with some collaboration with Meldrum......yet, you attribute the whole paper to Meldrum in order to discredit it?) With that said, I'm done derailing the heck out of this thread, I just felt the need to counter those unproved claims above for the new folks that may not be familiar with 'kitakazery'. ;-) Edited September 12, 2014 by Cotter 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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