Guest Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Does the controversy surrounding the destroyed campgrounds and Sasquatch Chronicles slam the door shut on future revelations surrounding this type of behavior? Does public have a to know of these type of incidents? Edited May 6, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTreeWalker Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I will always consider something based on the evidence presented. Then make my personal decision based on the strength of that evidence. And yes, people should be made aware of situations that will put them in danger; be it wild animals or whatever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Good post BTW, good choice of author too. I read one of his books a very long time ago. Edited May 6, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diana swampbooger Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 I'm coming at the booger stories as just that. In my mind, the stories are interesting but not as important as speaking out about the perceptions, felt/sense, rage, fear, impotence..... It's the emotional & physical stress, pain & trauma that needs to be addressed immediately & carefully in order to feasibly restore quality of life. Anything less is absolutely soul killing I can hear in a few of you. Takes one to know one. PS ~ the Mr Black et al. stories were brought on board by Will Jevning. Is that why he's gone? I surely don't know but I wonder about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisco Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) Gum I've always believed Sasquatch to be potentially dangerous and I don't need hair raising accounts from SC to realize that. It just simply makes sense they would be dangerous. Any animal that's omnivorous, with a large body mass, a diet of raw protein and vegetation, coupled with intelligence, is going to naturally take advantage of any opportunity to get something to eat. Whether its in the form of a deer, roadkill or a lost hiker. You don't have to be an "expert researcher" or wildlife biologist to understand this concept. I also don't think they have super natural abilities and nor do I think they're immune to bullets and game cameras. I do believe they're elusive as hell and likely do the best they can to be stealthy and remain hidden. That likely includes a healthy respect for humans as well as an understanding that we can be very dangerous. Another attribute shared by other animals. As to the whole notion of a top secret organization that deals with Sasquatch or animals like Sasquatch. Again, I think its plausible but not in the manner that SC describes. Simply because we're a society that's highly interested in secret government organizations and we have a huge contingency of individuals and organizations, such as the press,that specialize in breaking secrets like this, wide open. Think of Watergate, Iran/Contra and these two events involved the President; the most powerful person in the world. A small agency focused on Sasquatch would be broken open, by the press, like a pinata at a Cinco De Mayo celebration. If there really is an organization that deals with Sasquatch and any related incidents, I would assume they would operate in a very cautious and unobtrusive manner, in order to avoid detection. Not to mention, they would be trying to control a wild animal that really can't be controlled. If anything, they would "monitor" the Sasquatch and their activities. Perhaps they may occasionally dart and tranquilize a troublesome one and transfer it to another territory. In extreme situations they may even "permanently remove" one if it proves to be dangerous. In short, they would provide "damage control." I'm certain they would provide spin in order to remove attention from whatever occurred. They certainly would NOT, threaten well known researchers and then ALLOW them to blab all over the internet. Any organization that stupid would not remain secret for longer than a month. If there was an organization that wanted to keep Bob Garret from talking, about an incident with a Sasquatch, they'd simply tell Bob Garret that the IRS was going to audit his taxes for the last ten years and for the next 20 years, unless of course, he decided to never say a word about the campground to anybody. That's how it would go down; in a simple and ultra effective manner. The stories I've heard from SC and Bob Garret are very entertaining and more along the lines of what you would expect to see in the next sequel of MIB; not from a real, clandestine, government organization. Edited May 6, 2015 by Cisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skookum Chuck Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 (edited) If will jevning really has access to a Mr. Black, then wouldn't the govt have identified him and plugged the leak by now?? Will is still talking about his NSA insider giving him GPS coordinates for sasquatch in Washington state...........If they really have this intel why do they let the leak continue ?? Edited May 6, 2015 by Skookum Chuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest diana swampbooger Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 No clue if the Mr Black stories were true, Chuck. Fun stories while Will was there . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) You and I both agree, they are potentially dangerous take the Honobia shooting for an example, nor do I believe they are invincible to firearm projectiles but we part ways when it comes to the free speech aspect of this. Let’s avoid the politics of it and consider nothing is newsworthy unless it is first approved by editor and if they get call suggesting they not print something then it doesn’t get printed and you and I don’t hear about it. Of course I am not implying that occurred here but my gosh friend, something odd happened when the man exposed this tale of horror and it happened in a rather astonishing manner did it not? On January 13, 2015 somebody here on this thread reported NAWAC their camp ground destroyed whether or not it humor I cannot tell you. On January 15, 2015 it was also suggested that two individuals were killed and one escaped, and survived. On January 15, 2015 it was suggested the individual who first reported the campground destruction claiming a death who was then interrogated, threatened and intimidated had his You Tube account shut because it somehow connected pornography. Nobody seems to know where that originated but it surfaced like the rest of this stuff. On January 20, 2015 it was learned that Garrett, the man who first disclosed campground destruction and deaths had his Facebook account was shut down and a video of what was believed to be foot prints of Bigfoot in or around the campsite were gone … two men allegedly intimidated Garrett against speaking about it. It appeared something unpleasant happened to the man and the order and speed with which it occurred was a amazing turn around. Something so unpleasant overcame him that it left him stricken with a bad case of stutteringitis and so speechless he appeared to have difficulty saying his name. To me that says a lot. I mean his personal computer was breached, his files taken and disappeared, his videos taking down and accounts electronically seized and locked out. I’ve always believed there a fine line of what is tolerated and what is not. When you cross the Rubicon you will know it … BFF has probably a few thousand Bigfoot related reports, BFRO several thousand, GCBRO has a few hundred and I know I have a couple thousand. Why do we not see those reports in the daily news? I know there is a small percentage that had made news media but you simply don’t see a lot of it reported. Who knows the real reason for its secrecy but then again why would any expect somebody to show up unannounced to take away Bigfoot body when it’s shot either? You listed a very detailed step by step of clandestine approach of how you would expect things to be care of and I agree. Except I believe the man stumbled into this scenario without the benefit of prevention and the cleanup or damage control was on the fly or whim very simply. If will jevning really has access to a Mr. Black, then wouldn't the govt have identified him and plugged the leak by now?? Will is still talking about his NSA insider giving him GPS coordinates for sasquatch in Washington state...........If they really have this intel why do they let the leak continue ?? Hello and welcome Skookum Chuck, I hinted of that when I first read something purported to be Jevning’s email. That was one of the first comments I made about outing a source on the inside if that was correct by why would he write that in an email? It leaves lots and lots of unanswered questions and when you pin the tail on donkey it all begins after the man exposes on video something he claims was truth now how’s that a coincidence for you? No clue if the Mr Black stories were true, Chuck. Fun stories while Will was there . I agree DS. Edited May 7, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubbedfoot Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) I have no idea if Wes and Woody's story is true, but regardless, it certainly is an entertaining account...... Edited May 7, 2015 by clubbedfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) I have no idea if Wes and Woody's story is true, but regardless, it certainly is an entertaining account...... I think that is the general consensus here CB. Let me ask and see what do think, does the controversy surrounding the destroyed campgrounds and Sasquatch Chronicles slam the door shut on future revelations surrounding this type of behavior? Does public have a to know of these type of incidents? Edited May 7, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubbedfoot Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) ^^^^ NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In no way shape or form.....................Of course the public has a right to KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANY WITHOLDING OF INFORMATION OF THAT MATTER OF THOSE IN THE KNOW IS CRIMINAL NEGLIGENCE............IMHO...of course............. Edited May 7, 2015 by clubbedfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubbedfoot Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 ^^^....In less hyperbolic language not to mention punctuation......The government has a duty to not only to inform its citizens of clear and present dangers but to protect them as welll (to the best of its ability).... Unless I am totally off my rocker......I think that public safety measures should be funded from federal and state tax coffers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehead74 Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 I'm not sure if this has been posted here already. If so, it might be worth revisiting. Just another bone to gnaw on: http://bigfootanarchy.blogspot.com/2015/03/the-ultimate-camping-story.html#comment-form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) I have consistently, and without exception, said something or somebody with limitless resources had a play on this incident and to day this nothing more has surface. All eyes and ears have turned away from what appears to be some great mystery and toward the facilitator as though guided by some unseen hand. Amazing, not so much as a peep is heard about the camp site destroyed or the alleged victims. One thing made abundantly clear watching and reading the SC controversy from the beginning is how critical information really is. Sometimes getting the message out there to the public domain seems more like wrestling a force much greater than you like as though the truth is held tightly in the jaws of an alligator, and it’s up to you to try figure out how free it up is enough to make sweat beads pop up on your forehead sometimes. Anything less than open knowledge on these sort of incidents especially if they are responsible for the type of damage claimed, is deeply unpleasant and utterly thuggish to prevent information. What do you say? Edited May 7, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChasingRabbits Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Does the controversy surrounding the destroyed campgrounds and Sasquatch Chronicles slam the door shut on future revelations surrounding this type of behavior? Does public have a to know of these type of incidents? I don't think that will prevent BigFoot researchers or Paranormal investigators from doing their thing and reporting their findings. As I've written, I don't think Garrett's problem is Big Foot evidence, but rather evidence of law enforcement incompetency. Remove Big Foot and the impression anyone would get from Garrett's video would be "why didn't law enforcement respond to that?" SC further publicizing it didn't make things any better. Sam Houston National Forest where this video was filmed is Federal property, under the jurisdiction of the Federal government. It's not the local yokels sleeping on the job: it's the Feds. Should the public know about the incompetency of public servants? Heck YEAH! Another thought about the Feds and its octopus arms in National parks. I'm sure many of us have recently heard about the military training exercise occurring or about to occur in the Southwestern states from Texas to California. It doesn't take much imagination to figure out the training will take place on Federal lands like bases/forts and the National Parks. This training exercise gives life to my theory that Garrett, hunters of the big Foot and non-Big foot kind, bird watchers, rock hounds, campers and hikers are potentially treading near areas the Feds don't want them to be. It also makes NPS's proposed fines for photos of national forests rational too: your photo of a mountain might capture more than trees, forest animals, and rocks. And think about it from the Feds' point of view. A hunter hikes into a remote area of a national forest and hangs up game cams hoping to track deer or whatever else. What happens if the game cams snap pics of new weapon or device? Uh-oh......there goes classified information. Again, if Garrett is being harassed by the Feds, I don't think it's due to his Big Foot research. I think it's because Garrett's research area is too close to something the Feds are working on and they don't want even a whisper of it documented and posted on a website under the caption "Sasquatch drinking water" because a video or photo of something like that will be examined inch by inch by Big Foot researchers and debunkers (look at ThinkerThunker's analysis of vids and photos). Who would have mud on their faces if the Sasquatch photo not only had a Sasquatch but also a visible portion of a secret bunker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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