Guest Silver Fox Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I'm no expert on writing but after reading the interview it's pretty obvious to me the interviewer and the person being interviewed are the same person or "voice". Complete bs IMO. This story has been floating around certain inner circles since November or December. The following people have heard this story before I reported. Some repeated it to others. Some of them believe it, others don't. People who know this story well: Adrian Erickson Melba Ketchum "Olympic Project" [name withheld] George Ruff Tyler Huggins, BFRO Matt Moneymaker Richard Stubstad Go check with some of those sources and see what they say. We're getting our info from these very people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Fox Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 So what did the third Bigfoot do while the second one died in this dude's arms? The story is that the third BF, another juvenile, survived. Whether it made it through the winter or not is not known. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Fox Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 It doesn't make sense... If it was true I think Ketchum, Erickson and the Olympic Project guys would (have) act differently. They have wealthy sponsors like Wally Hersom or Erickson himself. If it was true these guys would have bought the bodies long ago... I know nothing about Wally Hersom, but I assume he has heard this story before, as the OP is aware of it. Erickson believes the story. I don't think he wants those 2 BF's, but I am just speculating. Ketchum believes the story. When she first received some of the samples, she was really freaked out. She thought they looked like they had been carved off a cadaver of a human or hominid thigh. She was really frightened and was calling around trying to get people to hide the sample in case police raided the lab. She was afraid of going to jail. As far as the OP guys, I think (speculation) they want to retain some sort of plausible deniability. I don't think "OP proper" wants to be holding these bodies either. Understand, these bodies are like hot potatoes. No one really wants to touch them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Thom, my bad, I misunderstood. I'm sorry. DR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) OK, it's time to put a few things to rest. I just spoke to the "bear hunter", who is also my friend. He is beside himself because of all the BS being spread. He's asked me to clarify a few things here on this forum. First of all, he is not a poacher. I repeat, not a poacher. Second, it was bear season and he was hunting in a legal area with a bear tag. Please don't ask me these things again. That's the truth. Third, he has not killed 1000 bears. He's killed 3 in his lifetime. Yes 3, not 1000. It's also very important to note, he never gave Sasquatch a second thought. He was a complete skeptic. Because of his unfamiliarity with the Bigfoot subject he had no idea of what he was looking at through his riffle site. He assumed that it was a very strange looking bear that was standing on it's hind legs. In his mind that's all it could have been, a bear. When the bullet hit its mark, it started to become apparent that it wasn't a bear. It did not drop right there, it ran off. They thought they heard it crash in the brush but did not see it go down. Things started getting very weird at this point. Two smaller creatures appeared from the brush, sometimes on two feet, and sometimes on all fours. In his description they looked like a cross between an ape and a bear. They got very close to him and at one point one positioned itself above him on a outcrop. He shot it out of fear of being attacked. Probably the same thing I would have done in the given circumstance. When I'm in the wilderness I always pack a gun to protect my self from wild, sometimes unpredictable animals. There are a few times I thanked God I had it. This was starting to feel like a nightmare to him and he quickly left trying to wrap his mind around what had just happened. It's very important to note that he doesn't feel good about this incident. As a matter of fact he felt terrible. This was a case of miss-identification plane and simple. At a later date a search was carried out at the site and a piece of flesh was recovered. NOT A BODY, only a small piece of flesh witch was later cut in two pieces, hence the cut line. I'll say it one more time, no body's were found or recovered. It's very unfortunate that this happened, but hopefully some good will come out of it. I'm probably going to have a whole bunch of people mad at me for talking about this, but my first obligation is to the bear hunter. He's my friend and I gave him my word that I'm there for him. He wanted me to convey this message, so take it or leave it, it's the truth. DR Edited June 28, 2011 by Derekfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 And Silver fox, your speculating is way off. Plausible deniability, please. I just gave you clarity. Crystal clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Fox Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 OK, it's time to put a few things to rest. I just spoke to the "bear hunter", who is also my friend. He is beside himself because of all the BS being spread. He's asked me to clarify a few things here on this forum. First of all, he is not a poacher. I repeat, not a poacher. Second, it was bear season and he was hunting in a legal area with a bear tag. Please don't ask me these things again. That's the truth. Third, he has not killed 1000 bears. He's killed 3 in his lifetime. Yes 3, not 1000. It's also very important to note, he never gave Sasquatch a second thought. He was a complete skeptic. Because of his unfamiliarity with the Bigfoot subject he had no idea of what he was looking at through his riffle site. He assumed that it was a very strange looking bear that was standing on it's hind legs. In his mind that's all it could have been, a bear. When the bullet hit its mark, it started to become apparent that it wasn't a bear. It did not drop right there, it ran off. They thought they heard it crash in the brush but did not see it go down. Things started getting very weird at this point. Two smaller creatures appeared from the brush, sometimes on two feet, and sometimes on all fours. In his description they looked like a cross between an ape and a bear. They got very close to him and at one point one positioned itself above him on a outcrop. He shot it out of fear of being attacked. Probably the same thing I would have done in the given circumstance. When I'm in the wilderness I always pack a gun to protect my self from wild, sometimes unpredictable animals. There are a few times I thanked God I had it. This was starting to feel like a nightmare to him and he quickly left trying to wrap his mind around what had just happened. It's very important to note that he doesn't feel good about this incident. As a matter of fact he felt terrible. This was a case of miss-identification plane and simple. At a later date a search was carried out at the site and a piece of flesh was recovered. NOT A BODY, only a small piece of flesh witch was later cut in two pieces, hence the cut line. I'll say it one more time, no body's were found or recovered. It's very unfortunate that this happened, but hopefully some good will come out of it. I'm probably going to have a whole bunch of people mad at me for talking about this, but my first obligation is to the bear hunter. He's my friend and I gave him my word that I'm there for him. He wanted me to convey this massage, so take it or leave it, it's the truth. DR Thank you for clearing this up, sir. The interview subject claims to have killed 1000 bears, not the fellow who shot the BF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Derek, That was an amazing post. Thanks for sharing. I really hope we get to hear some earth shattering results from such an unfortunate situation. I am looking foward to the release of all the confidential material for the projects involved. I truly hope I did not waste my time betting on all of you. Cheers, Polypodium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 One more thing, he's never met or spoke to Moneymaker or Erickson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Wow Derekfoot, that is some interesting information there. Thanks for sharing what you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) Hoping this doesn’t violate any sort of board policy, but the below was fairly easy to figure out (assuming my logic is correct) via a few google searches. Took me much more time to summarize the below. Google is your friend. The “doyen of North American†comment (extremely specific – almost as if it was meant to be found, to be honest) combined with cross-references against various interests / background given (taxidermy, bear, hunting, etc.) made this fairly easy to narrow down. Even if it isn’t him, Walker’s experience is an interesting read. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/art/3639588/Stuffing-bunnies-Its-an-art-form.html Identifies a “Ken Walker†as “the doyen of North American taxidermyâ€. Found via googling “the doyen of North American†bear. Tons of references to a “Ken Walker†as a leading taxidermist. http://www.taxidermy.com/cat/04/MammalWTC.html Found via googling "Ken Walker" taxidermy bear. First result – suggests Walker is an expert in bear taxidermy, fitting the bear hunting / taxidermy expertise described in the narrative. Note there’s a picture of him. Found a facebook site for a Ken Walker (won’t post the link here in respect for privacy) - whose picture appears to match the one noted directly above, whose interests / pages include taxidermy (multiple pages) and sasquatch (multiple pages). http://www.mnh.si.edu/museum/news/taxidermy/ See picture caption – suggests a “Ken Walker†was part of the Smithsonian Museum – National Museum of Natural History’s “award winning taxidermy teamâ€. Appears to fit “America’s foremost†museum affiliation / employment. Interestingly, the picture doesn’t seem to match the 2 referenced above, although the facebook pic above looks a lot like the first person on the left (perhaps the “left to right†statement in the picture caption isn’t accurate). Found via googling "Ken Walker" taxidermy (first result). {editted mostly for formatting} Edited June 28, 2011 by Uncle Billy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Ken Walker is the guy that gave the interview because he knew about the situation, but It wasn't him, and I can guarantee the blog was not accurate. My guess is Erickson put him up to it. Gee, lets try to trash the Olympic project and leak a bunch of stuff. Then all focus can be on the Erickson project. That's what you want isn't it Adrian? Go ahead and give me a call tomorrow big A, I got a lot to say to you fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steenburg Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Ken Walker is the guy that gave the interview because he knew about the situation, but It wasn't him, and I can guarantee the blog was not accurate. My guess is Erickson put him up to it. Gee, lets try to trash the Olympic project and leak a bunch of stuff. Then all focus can be on the Erickson project. That's what you want isn't it Adrian? Go ahead and give me a call tomorrow big A, I got a lot to say to you fella. So Ken walker pretended to be the man who had done the shooting while in fact it was a friend of yours? Has Robert Lindsy been informed that a impostor has falsely claimed to have shot two Sasquatch and made wild and false claims, basically lying to him all through the interview? I thought something didn't add up ether that or Lindsy made the biggest case of misquoting ever in the field of witness interviewing? Derekfoot it might be a good idea for you or your friend to contact Lindsy and inform him that he has been taken for a ride, assuming he is not aware of it already. Thomas Steenburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Silver Fox Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 So Ken walker pretended to be the man who had done the shooting while in fact it was a friend of yours? Has Robert Lindsy been informed that a impostor has falsely claimed to have shot two Sasquatch and made wild and false claims, basically lying to him all through the interview? I thought something didn't add up ether that or Lindsy made the biggest case of misquoting ever in the field of witness interviewing? Derekfoot it might be a good idea for you or your friend to contact Lindsy and inform him that he has been taken for a ride, assuming he is not aware of it already. Thomas Steenburg The man that I interviewed is not the shooter. He is someone else. The man I interviewed did not claim to be the shooter. I know the identities of the shooter and the interviewer and they are not the same. Derek's account of things, at least as far as the shooter is concerned, is correct. I never interviewed anyone who shot 2 BF's. I interviewed someone who talked to the guy who shot 2 BF's, and yes, the guy who shot 2 BF's does indeed exist. You can probably find his identity through the interview too via clues, but I am not revealing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steenburg Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 The man that I interviewed is not the shooter. He is someone else. The man I interviewed did not claim to be the shooter. I know the identities of the shooter and the interviewer and they are not the same. Derek's account of things, at least as far as the shooter is concerned, is correct. I never interviewed anyone who shot 2 BF's. I interviewed someone who talked to the guy who shot 2 BF's, and yes, the guy who shot 2 BF's does indeed exist. You can probably find his identity through the interview too via clues, but I am not revealing it. You are right Silver Fox. The guy being interviewed does not claim to be the shooter. quote below BH: Yes I do. This all started from a thread on Taxidermy.net, a website where I hang out. There are sometimes threads on Bigfoots, and in this one thread, in November 2010, a guy said that he had just shot two Bigfoots! The guy is a trapper, a taxidermist and a hunter. This was huge news of course, and pretty soon there were lots of followup posts. Somehow the guy’s name and number got out, and there were reports of people bothering him and harassing him. He asked the webmaster, George Ruff, to shut down the thread. George shut it down. END QUOTE. But you say in your above post that Derek as far as the shooter is concerned is correct. Yet soon after you said Yes the guy who shot Two Sasquatch does indeed exist. I take you are also meaning that even if he did shoot two Sasquatch he is not claiming to be in possession of the bodies? Thomas Steenburg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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