Guest OntarioSquatch Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 (edited) lolz. It wasn't me who sent him an email. http://bigfootevidence.blogspot.ca/2012/10/dr-sykes-bigfoot-dna-update-my-aim-was.html Edited October 31, 2012 by OntarioSquatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotter Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 10-4. Figgered I'd ask! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Well let me ask you this people, how many of you donors got negative results from Dr. Ketchum? That shouldn't be breaking any kind of NDA since it was a negative result. I have one suspect sample. I've sent portions of it to several experts for examination and testing. Some of those results indicated it was an unknown prior to sending it to Ketchum. I've offered it elsewhere too. I will keep on until someone can prove what it is from, and no I'm not just taking any one persons word for it. If this paper publishes, I'll have the word of academia and that will suffice. You see, people aren't going to just spend 200 dollars for screening of just any sample, they have to have good reason to do that, and that is a built in deterrent against plucking just any hair off a fence and hoping for a miracle. I'm sure they've had negative results, but they likely were caught in the morphology screening before DNA testing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Bad Voo Doo, Ape Human is dead on about completing your Doctorate. Close your eyes, hold your nose, and jump through the final hoops, get your Phd and use it to jam it up their ***** and do your own thing and change the world in the process if that's what your goals are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indiefoot Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 If I remember correctly she said there were over 100 submissions and of that they went forward with 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The expiration date doesn't matter, the NDA's for this study are to establish ownership of the results which belongs to Dr. Ketchum. It had to be that lopsided to control release of information and maintain integrity of the study while it is submitted for peer review. Again, Dr. Ketchum owns the results and all rights to publish those results. Most submitters don't have any actual sequence data to actually breach their NDA's with and talking about what the results are would only qualify as anecdotal fodder. The Sykes study is no different, they've stated up front there would be no release of results until publication, and I'm sure Sykes and co-authors aquired full rights to do with those results as they see fit. It's a unidirectional flow of information and biological material until it publishes, thats the deal.Ketchum submitters can participate in other studies if they wish, since they still own whatever samples (and rights to results)they didn't send in to this study.Please don't frett for the Ketchum submitters, I'm sure they didn't invest what they couldn't afford to lose. I don't think this study is over with, or that it won't publish. When it's time, it will go public. so let me get this straight. You received no results, just a phone call? Or did Melba send you the results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Even the usual soap story items have dried up. It's like a desert here. Oh there's a bone to gnaw on out there now. Wow. (Just alluding... someone else can drag it in here.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The problem CT is that nobody owes annonymous people on a forum anything, especially within these confines of social media where people hide behind usernames and are not answerable to their lack professional courtesy and baseless accusations. Disappearing is relative. I'm surprised that you don't understand that a project like this has no predictable deadline or finish date. I also can't see how you could question a procedure which you haven't examined, unless it is unrelated to this thread and topic. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm asking people who should have more information than I do some questions that should be easy to answer and not violate any legal obligations. Have you examined the procedures she used? I'm not getting that impression from what you previously said and that is not criticism of you, I understand that Dr. Ketchum was dictating the conditions of the study, but I would not defend her based on her own hearsay. The fact that I don't know where she has relocated is meaningless but I think it is significant if you don't, if you don't mind my asking, do you know where she is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernyahoo Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Why do you think she has gone anywhere CT? Do you consider her lab to be her residence or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest thermalman Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) It doesn't really matter where she locates her lab, as long as the results are scientifically accurate. She could be living and doing her lab work in a shoe for all it matters. It doesn't change her protocols. Edited November 1, 2012 by thermalman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) Oh there's a bone to gnaw on out there now. Wow. (Just alluding... someone else can drag it in here.) Please DON'T drag that garbage in here. That article was obviously written to prove some sick point, probably as a response to the entirely unnecessary fiasco created by the MABRC and subsequently blamed on the easy target (RL). I'm not sure what he's trying to prove, but this is between them and has no business in any discussion about Bigfoot, science, or a decent woman we are all counting on. Edited November 1, 2012 by NiceGuyJon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 (edited) If you are a scientist please explain to me why you think the evidence thus far is sufficient to justify funding for discovery? I'm genuinely interested in how what I consider to be circumstantial evidence at best meets the criteria for conclusive evidence. I could very well be wrong in my assumptions. Questioning motives and procedures that don't align with what is normally done in research is not bad mouthing IMO. I don't know the woman personally, but her history, coupled with a lack of follow through with dead lines in this project, then suddenly disappearing, is suspicious at the moment. Louis Pasteur once said, "chance favors the prepared mind." That's the genius behind all these accidental inventions - the scientists were prepared. They did their science on the brink and were able to see the magic in a mistake, set-back, or coincidence. Edited November 1, 2012 by ScienceCritic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 The lame stream scientific community, ( yes that is COMMUNITY) has a much longer record ( century upon century) of do nothing, and not accomplishing any progress, to the point of behaving like the so called scientists of the dark ages. Every important advance in science has been made only after huge amounts of storm and thunder from the defenders of the then-current orthodoxy. No matter how many times "the consensus" is proven wrong, institutional Science never seems to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Sorry NGJ - it sort of blew my mind when I read it. I agree it's garbage but would go farther and say it's damaging to the community as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Well let me ask you this people, how many of you donors got negative results from Dr. Ketchum? That shouldn't be breaking any kind of NDA since it was a negative result. Depends on how the NDA was worded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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