Anyone have any recent photos of a Bigfoot they took ?

[Huntster]

23 minutes ago, norseman said:

.........Science requires one male and female type specimen!

 

Scientists peruse bush meat markets and discover NEW species all the time! Gigantopethicus was discovered in a apothecary shop in Hong Kong!..........

 

You do realize that "Science" is not in authority, right? Scientists need to acquire permits to collect specimens. If they have some sort of written law in their Science Bible that requires dead specimens in order to classify them taxonomically (they don't, and I invite you to prove me wrong at any time with a reference to such a law), then they will have to get permission from the government in authority to do so. 

 

Of course, they might simply find such evidence at an apothecary shop and smuggle it out of the country, but I wouldn't want to get caught doing it..........

[norseman]

23 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

Mice are not legal game. They're universally regarded as a pest. It's open season on them everywhere. They're not regulated or managed by any wildlife management agency.

 

If you kill them daily, you might want to consider hiring a pest control specialist. Ever hear of pest control when you have bear trouble?

According to Hiflier? It doesn’t matter. If the state you live in doesn’t sell a game tag for it? You can’t kill it!🤷‍♂️

 

 

[Incorrigible1]

27 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

Mice are not legal game. They're universally regarded as a pest. It's open season on them everywhere. They're not regulated or managed by any wildlife management agency.

 

If you kill them daily, you might want to consider hiring a pest control specialist. Ever hear of pest control when you have bear trouble?

 

Timber rattlesnakes are protected throughout much of their range.

[norseman]

11 minutes ago, Huntster said:

 

You do realize that "Science" is not in authority, right? Scientists need to acquire permits to collect specimens. If they have some sort of written law in their Science Bible that requires dead specimens in order to classify them taxonomically (they don't, and I invite you to prove me wrong at any time with a reference to such a law), then they will have to get permission from the government in authority to do so. 

 

Of course, they might simply find such evidence at an apothecary shop and smuggle it out of the country, but I wouldn't want to get caught doing it..........

When it comes to Taxonomy and Biology? Who else do you think is the authority? Why do you think the Feds and States hire biologists? And the scientists need permits to study KNOWN SPECIES. They don’t sell permits to kill myths….. I know I called the US Fish and Game in Portland Oregon.
 

I had the Smithsonian “Bigfoot” letter that talked about the requirement of type specimens in my project Grendel sub forum. The link no longer works and I can no longer find the letter. 

[norseman]

Here is the Wikipedia article.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_(biology)

[xspider1]

^ fascinating!  I noticed in particular that the wiki article linked above says: "Types are usually physical specimens that are kept in a museum or herbarium research collection, but failing that, an image of an individual of that taxon has sometimes been designated as a type".

 

Again, I do not think that killing a Bigfoot (especially, 2 or more to obtain a male AND a female body on a slab) is the right approach.  I am very much against that.  They could be mutant homo sapiens, no?  And, since their DNA is apparently very close to ours, I have my doubts that that will ever work either.  So, I guess I'm still in the catch and release camp.    maybe we use use a lasso?  lol

anyway, does "Anyone have any recent photos of a Bigfoot they took?" 

 

 

 

 

[gigantor]

2 hours ago, MickMc said:

Would be very interesting to see the legal aspects of a killed bigfoot....

 

Everyone has a right to self defense, just make sure you don't shoot it on the back.

[norseman]

1 hour ago, xspider1 said:

^ fascinating!  I noticed in particular that the wiki article linked above says: "Types are usually physical specimens that are kept in a museum or herbarium research collection, but failing that, an image of an individual of that taxon has sometimes been designated as a type".

 

Again, I do not think that killing a Bigfoot (especially, 2 or more to obtain a male AND a female body on a slab) is the right approach.  I am very much against that.  They could be mutant homo sapiens, no?  And, since their DNA is apparently very close to ours, I have my doubts that that will ever work either.  So, I guess I'm still in the catch and release camp.    maybe we use use a lasso?  lol

anyway, does "Anyone have any recent photos of a Bigfoot they took?" 

 

 

 

 

You go lasso one…. I will watch.😳

 

As far as a picture? We tried that back in the 1960’s right? If it was a close relative of a known ant species? A picture may work….maybe.

 

A 800 lbs ape man roaming the hinterlands of N America? Oh heck no….

 

And for the record? I really really hate being the bearer of bad news. If the PGF had been accepted as proof? Fine by me.

 

And no my open heart surgery is not healing and they may have to go back in and tighten the wires. My summer is shot. No bouncing around in a 4x4 or jet boat or any fun stuff.🙄 So no cool pictures or a foot in a ruck…

56 minutes ago, gigantor said:

 

Everyone has a right to self defense, just make sure you don't shoot it on the back.

Just shoot it off Xspider as it’s ripping his arms off and beating him to death with them!!!🤣

[norseman]

3 hours ago, MickMc said:

the naysayers would say that first, something has to be in existence before it can be killed 'in the name of science'. Would be very interesting to see the legal aspects of a killed bigfoot....especially if some judge classifies it as a human

It won’t be the same species as us. I don’t know of any chicks covered head to toe in hair and weigh 800 lbs and stand 8 feet tall.

 

It might be classified by science in the same GENUS as us. Homo Sapien vs Homo Sasqatcheus. IMHO.
 

Which there is no legal precedent for extending legal rights to something outside of our own species. Our current Magna Carta legal framework didn’t exist when Neanderthals or other archaic hominids cohabitated the Earth with us. Obviously our ancestors took a very different tactic than to what is acceptable now. As they are no longer here. Which is why we can classify them with a finger bone.

[MIB]

Just interjecting a slightly, but not completely, off-topic -ish (?) comment.    I find myself more and more forced by reality to agree with @Norseman.   Though I remain no-kill, I believe if a person is absolutely set on proving bigfoot's existence, it is going to require a "slab monkey", maybe 2.   The "out" for me is I'm not, nor have I ever been, trying to prove existence or force science to acknowledge existence, I'm just trying to learn .. for selfish little ol' me.   The kinds of evidence I thought would do the trick didn't happen in time and now they are too hoaxable because of changes in technology.   

 

Testimony .. already has proven inadequate.

Photos / video .. if the PGF, Blue Mountain, Memorial Day, etc films didn't move the needle, images won't do so.

DNA .. Ketchum's debacle closed that door.

Forcing "gov't" to acknowledge bigfoot .. is not going to convince science unless a massive amount of physical evidence is released as part of that acknowledgement.

 

Those things will entertain and maybe inspire your bigfooting buddies but they don't move the needle so far as proof of existence.

 

MIB

[wiiawiwb]

@MIB your objective to learn is as important as anyone else's.

 

I never had a thirst to quench for proving its existence to anyone. No needle to move except my own and that's already moved a fair bit in the right direction. Just missing the sighting part. The Powerball winning ticket for me would be an encounter.

Edited August 6, 2023 by wiiawiwb

[Huntster]

14 hours ago, Incorrigible1 said:

 

Timber rattlesnakes are protected throughout much of their range.

 

Yeah. A deadly pest. Protected. Seagulls are protected as well, and by the mighty feds. There's an example of mismanagement for ya'.

[Huntster]

14 hours ago, norseman said:

When it comes to Taxonomy and Biology? Who else do you think is the authority?
 

I had the Smithsonian “Bigfoot” letter that talked about the requirement of type specimens in my project Grendel sub forum. The link no longer works and I can no longer find the letter. 

 

The question is about killing. Harvesting for any reason. Hell, you even need a permit to photograph and film on federal lands commercially. 

 

Do you think Dr. Mayor was on Madagascar doing her research without having first gotten permission from the government there?

 

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.........Why do you think the Feds and States hire biologists?.........

 

They hire them to do what they tell them to do, and not to do what they tell them not to do.

 

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.........And the scientists need permits to study KNOWN SPECIES...........

 

They even need permits to enter most government lands.

 

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.......They don’t sell permits to kill myths….. I know I called the US Fish and Game in Portland Oregon...........

 

Because they don't want the myth killed.

 

 

 

 

 

[Huntster]

12 hours ago, norseman said:

.........As far as a picture? We tried that back in the 1960’s right? If it was a close relative of a known ant species? A picture may work….maybe...........

 

A photo works if they want it to work. If they want a carcass delivered, that's what it will take.

 

And if they don't want it discovered, it won't be discovered. Period.

 

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.........And no my open heart surgery is not healing and they may have to go back in and tighten the wires.........

 

I'm sorry to read that, my Friend. You will remain in my daily prayers.

[Huntster]

12 hours ago, norseman said:

It won’t be the same species as us............

 

Zana was.......or so we've been told.........