Doug Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 I needed to add that all the other pics beyond 10 yards were really blurry when zoomed in.
NorCalWitness Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 On 6/2/2023 at 12:23 PM, NathanFooter said: Not a single shred of information indicates they are doing well as a species. Increased sightings would indicate they are doing ok. I don't see any shred of info indicating they need our help. 1
Doodler Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, NorCalWitness said: Increased sightings would indicate they are doing ok. I don't see any shred of info indicating they need our help. the US population has doubled in 70 years, IMO based on SSRS database data, sightings increase with pop culture references to bigfoot, not to the population. I could be wrong about this, but this is my understanding. I came to this conclusion based on the number of sightings per year changing wildly. I would love to be proven wrong. Clearly, other factors are involved than just us vs them populations. A declining them population would result in lower numbers, but a rising us population would hide some of that decline by masking it behind more human hours in their ecosystems. Pop culture can also influence sightings by making it cool to go camping again, resulting in more people in the woods. Anywho, this is what the numbers look like for the past 73 years: 7 1950 2 1951 2 1952 7 1953 1 1954 6 1955 8 1956 6 1957 12 1958 9 1959 19 1960 12 1961 13 1962 27 1963 23 1964 25 1965 28 1966 25 1967 45 1968 55 1969 68 1970 50 1971 86 1972 127 1973 103 1974 142 1975 135 1976 186 1977 174 1978 144 1979 146 1980 112 1981 101 1982 90 1983 84 1984 93 1985 98 1986 87 1987 110 1988 94 1989 92 1990 102 1991 88 1992 108 1993 115 1994 134 1995 121 1996 144 1997 185 1998 156 1999 253 2000 236 2001 208 2002 230 2003 278 2004 262 2005 289 2006 213 2007 202 2008 193 2009 154 2010 187 2011 232 2012 164 2013 157 2014 111 2015 82 2016 64 2017 60 2018 40 2019 66 2020 23 2021 1
NorCalWitness Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Doodler said: the US population has doubled in 70 years, IMO based on SSRS database data, sightings increase with pop culture references to bigfoot, not to the population. I could be wrong about this, but this is my understanding. I came to this conclusion based on the number of sightings per year changing wildly. I would love to be proven wrong. Clearly, other factors are involved than just us vs them populations. A declining them population would result in lower numbers, but a rising us population would hide some of that decline by masking it behind more human hours in their ecosystems. Pop culture can also influence sightings by making it cool to go camping again, resulting in more people in the woods. Anywho, this is what the numbers look like for the past 73 years: 7 1950 2 1951 2 1952 7 1953 1 1954 6 1955 8 1956 6 1957 12 1958 9 1959 19 1960 12 1961 13 1962 27 1963 23 1964 25 1965 28 1966 25 1967 45 1968 55 1969 68 1970 50 1971 86 1972 127 1973 103 1974 142 1975 135 1976 186 1977 174 1978 144 1979 146 1980 112 1981 101 1982 90 1983 84 1984 93 1985 98 1986 87 1987 110 1988 94 1989 92 1990 102 1991 88 1992 108 1993 115 1994 134 1995 121 1996 144 1997 185 1998 156 1999 253 2000 236 2001 208 2002 230 2003 278 2004 262 2005 289 2006 213 2007 202 2008 193 2009 154 2010 187 2011 232 2012 164 2013 157 2014 111 2015 82 2016 64 2017 60 2018 40 2019 66 2020 23 2021 Great data. Thank you for compiling and sharing. What is the SSRS database?
OkieFoot Posted June 7, 2023 Moderator Posted June 7, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 2:02 PM, Doodler said: the US population has doubled in 70 years, IMO based on SSRS database data, sightings increase with pop culture references to bigfoot, not to the population. I could be wrong about this, but this is my understanding. I came to this conclusion based on the number of sightings per year changing wildly. I would love to be proven wrong. Clearly, other factors are involved than just us vs them populations. A declining them population would result in lower numbers, but a rising us population would hide some of that decline by masking it behind more human hours in their ecosystems. Pop culture can also influence sightings by making it cool to go camping again, resulting in more people in the woods. Anywho, this is what the numbers look like for the past 73 years: 7 1950 2 1951 2 1952 7 1953 1 1954 6 1955 8 1956 6 1957 12 1958 9 1959 19 1960 12 1961 13 1962 27 1963 23 1964 25 1965 28 1966 25 1967 45 1968 55 1969 68 1970 50 1971 86 1972 127 1973 103 1974 142 1975 135 1976 186 1977 174 1978 144 1979 146 1980 112 1981 101 1982 90 1983 84 1984 93 1985 98 1986 87 1987 110 1988 94 1989 92 1990 102 1991 88 1992 108 1993 115 1994 134 1995 121 1996 144 1997 185 1998 156 1999 253 2000 236 2001 208 2002 230 2003 278 2004 262 2005 289 2006 213 2007 202 2008 193 2009 154 2010 187 2011 232 2012 164 2013 157 2014 111 2015 82 2016 64 2017 60 2018 40 2019 66 2020 23 2021 That's a good point. I don't know if the numbers of hunting licenses have gone up or down very much over the years, but a lot of reports come from hunters, since they are out in the woods. I don't about fishing licenses but it would depend on where they're going. I also don't know about numbers of hikers out away from cities and towns.
NorCalWitness Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 What do you all think of Sasquatch Ontario and the photos he posted in his latest video. Photos at 6:02
norseman Posted June 7, 2023 Admin Posted June 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, NorCalWitness said: What do you all think of Sasquatch Ontario and the photos he posted in his latest video. Photos at 6:02 I feel like I am being cheated…. If you’re gonna hoax? Please do a good job! Can we elevate our game to a B rated horror film? I demand that I be scared for at least 2 seconds! I don’t want to look at your video and pretend I have two trick or treaters in Walmart ape masks looking back at me! CMON!🥱😴 1
wiiawiwb Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) Here is a very interesting result about sighting reports. @Doodler was kind enough to provide a list of sightings reports totaled by year through 2021. I was curious about 2022 so I carefully searched both the BFF SSR and BFRO databases. There were only 12 sighting reports in 2022 when combining both database results. If we combine Washington State, Oregon, and California, we have a total of 1 sighting report. Shockingly, one state had 3 sightings during 2022 which amounted to 25% of all sightings in the country. Without looking, can you name the state? Edited June 7, 2023 by wiiawiwb
NorCalWitness Posted June 7, 2023 Posted June 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, wiiawiwb said: Here is a very interesting result about sighting reports. @Doodler was kind enough to provide a list of sightings reports totaled by year through 2021. I was curious about 2022 so I carefully searched both the BFF SSR and BFRO databases. There were only 12 sighting reports in 2022 when combining both database results. If we combine Washington State, Oregon, and California, we have a total of 1 sighting report. Shockingly, one state had 3 sightings during 2022 which amounted to 25% of all sightings in the country. Without looking, can you name the state? Many reports go unlisted on these sites. Hard to use the data with any real accuracy, although your method is spot on. 1 hour ago, norseman said: I feel like I am being cheated…. If you’re gonna hoax? Please do a good job! Can we elevate our game to a B rated horror film? I demand that I be scared for at least 2 seconds! I don’t want to look at your video and pretend I have two trick or treaters in Walmart ape masks looking back at me! CMON!🥱😴 not that I disagree, but have we seen whatever is in these photos elsewhere? Just saying its a costume isn't a great argument. I have not had a face to face encounter, but for those who have, is this close to what you saw?
wiiawiwb Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 13 hours ago, NorCalWitness said: Many reports go unlisted on these sites. Hard to use the data with any real accuracy, although your method is spot on. It's the only data there is to work with. It goes without saying there are sightings that never got reported to any organization. There may also be reported sightings that were submitted but never reported by a sasquatch group for whatever reason. I know of multiple sightings, and their approximate locations, told to me by people who pass my veracity test and none of them has ever reported the sighting to any of these groups. Almost everything related to sasquatch is anecdotal. As such, any conclusion drawn about any issue or question is probably hazarding a guess at best. Nevertheless, I think reasonable people can draw reasonable conclusions with available information. Dr. Henner Fahrenbach's studies and conclusion about sasquatch foot size are an example. A conclusion I've drawn relates to the best time period to be out sasquatching in my area. I used the SSR and pulled reports in my areas of interest to discern the most likely time to have a sighting/encounter. Well I'll be darned if it hasn't aligned exactly with my own experience (or mine with it). 1
Doodler Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 On 6/5/2023 at 4:31 PM, NorCalWitness said: Great data. Thank you for compiling and sharing. What is the SSRS database? The BFF DB, look at the top of the forum website, there's a tab for SSR. "SSRS" is a mistyping because there's another FLA four letter acronym called SSRS (SQL Server Reporting Service) that I type far too often, as I'm not a SQL Server DBA, and it just sort of spewed out onto the keyboard. It should read "SSR Database". Save it to a local file, save as a CSV, open up your terminal program and run: cut -d"," -f6 SSR-All-1-1-2022.csv | cut -d"/" -f3 | sort | uniq -c | sort -nbr | sort -k2,2 LOL been on the command line in Linux since Slackware in 1994, so parsing text files, especially things like CSV files, is a piece of cake. Any row you want data from after an entry that has quoted comas, like "1 - Single, no evidence" requires special handling with a tool called awk, but still not a huge deal. I sliced and diced for giggles, and did the same summary but class A/B/C per year, or any of the fields: SSRID,Classified,NED,AGPS,Date,SDate,US POP,US POP (M),longitude,latitude,altitude,Hour,Minute,Duration,Season,State,County,Type,Witness,WActivity,WAge,WGender,WFeeling,WOccupation,BFROClass,Terrain,Zone,EyeShine,Odor,Lore,PhotoEvidence,FootPrint,PrintLength1,PrintLength2,Stride-ft,Stride-in,Height-ft,Height-in,HairColor,Skin,Blood,Dermal,Feces,Hair,Remains,Tissue,Eating,Food,Hunting,Knocking,Speech,Objects,Road,Standing,Stalking,Vocalization,Whistling,Swimming,TreeBreaking,Growling,Squatting,ActOther,Aggressive,Curious,Indifferent,Scared,Surprised,Crawling,Gliding,Jogging,Running,Walking,OnAllFours,Sunny,PartlyCloudy,OverCast,Rain,Sleet,Fog,Snow,Wind,ClearSkies,Organization,Researcher,Confidence,repscore,URL like if you wanted to see the # of sightings where weather is mentioned as clear skies, it's just a field # away. Mostly, I got into the SSR data because I wanted to see if the Lat/Lon followed a pattern during the year. Specifically the latitude. Does the average latitude of sightings in a particular state change over the seasons? or Altitude. But frankly, it would be some tool like PowerBI that will expose more interesting stats from the DB as it's designed to map data, hopefully spot patterns. Chat GPT is probably a better analysis method, but since each report in the database is essentially unrelated, you can't exactly track a single entity through the seasons, further analysis on things like average altitude, average latitude and whatnot kind of becomes moot with the large deltas between each sighting. 1
Huntster Posted June 8, 2023 Posted June 8, 2023 22 hours ago, wiiawiwb said: ........Without looking, can you name the state? No, but I'll bet there's a local tv news channel stirring it up there.
Michael Posted July 29, 2023 Posted July 29, 2023 The few times I have caught a glimpse, a camera would have been useless. I worked with wildlife for decades and even hunters know, that most of the time, if your gun isn't cocked and aimed in that direction, or arrow already drawn, it is way too late to respond. The interactions we have within a mile of our home on the Olympic Peninsula, are loud, obvious, and frequent. But sightings are almost impossible. Even Jane Goodall spent 18 months following the same troop of chimps in the forest before she was able to actually witness them. It was longer until she was able to get close. Someone dedicated enough needs to spend years in the field, alone, in order to get any reasonable data. They are just so skittish. Seeing how civilization wiped out the wolves, bears, cougar and such in the lower 48, they were probably more common 500 years ago, than now.
guyzonthropus Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 One thing that sticks out about the sightings/year listing is the notable drop off in 2016,which, not to venture too close to politics, was, nonetheless, a year of significant shift In focus, so one might say. The beginning(on some levels) of the great divide amongst the various factions within our population, a polarizing that became quite all encompassing for many and then that followed by the pandemic and the constraints it brought, minimizing or at least reducing much of travel and outdoor activity for a lot of us could well account for much in regards to the drop In actual sightings. And it seems that only somewhat recently have activity patterns begun to return to pre-pandemic levels...on the flip side, I truly hope Covid -19 didn't reach any of the "dwarf side of the tracks" sasquatch groups and then got passed on ever deeper into their territories and numbers..who knows how dramatically they may have been impacted by the arrival of the Europeans and their foreign antigens. For all we know, they could just now be returning to their previous population densities, if that's even possible in light of the exploding hairless dwarf populations! 1
7.62 Posted August 3, 2023 Author Posted August 3, 2023 On 6/7/2023 at 2:26 PM, NorCalWitness said: What do you all think of Sasquatch Ontario and the photos he posted in his latest video. Photos at 6:02 Reasons like this we are thought of by many as fools and crazy . 1
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