Forums

Dude  if they are real they will go down with center mass hits with any of those calibers .    There's no  guarantee on any dangerous game the animal will go down immediately being Bigfoot or grizzly  Grizzlies have had their hearts exploded by a bullet  and still ran 100 yards .  I  would feel more than comfortable with a AR10 .308 as a rifle as my primary rifle if a bigfoot hunt was the objective .  I'm a no kill guy though and have posted that several times . I like the idea of darting one though if you could get close enough 

I would BE very pro kill, had I not been eye to eye with one at a distance of slightly less than ten yards on November 13th, 1993.  I am not convinced that a creature of that size, muscle density, presumed strength, and more importantly capability of rage at being injured would be stopped immediately, even by a large caliber bullet unless the shot was delivered directly to the central nervous system.  Additionally, the possibility of one or more other creatures attacking makes the tactical situation even more unsure.  I would absolutely use lethal force in defense of myself and others, but I don't want to be the one to necessarily "start the war".  Still, there IS that part of me that believes that if given the right circumstances I might just take that shot...but I AM conflicted, so I keep 9 of my 10 toes in the "no kill" camp. Still, I am dubious that with the density of the creature's body, most hunting rounds even the 7mm Mag, 300 Win Mag, or 338 Win Mag would have the necessary penetration to assure an immediate CNS stop.  Yes, you could get into exotics but within the realm of common rounds and platforms, the deck is stacked against you.  I believe, based upon decades of training, experience, and several on-duty lethal Force encounters, that exsanguination, rather than immediate trauma will be the most likely scenario in which the creature would be killed, and that in the interim, it would do a LOT of damage to the shooter.  I agree with Krantz that killing one WILL be the best way to prove it's existence to the so-called scientific community, I am just extremely doubtful of the practicality of it being successfully completed.   This is why my thinking has shifted into the collection of multiple pieces of physical and digital evidence within the context of a single study trip. I would be happy to share a couple of files.  I have a similar find on my property in northern Arizona where I found two tracks, and a torn up elk carcass with snapped off legs, and a shredded hide.  It was NOT a mountain lion or bear kill.

I am very much pro kill. I feel that most of Bigfoot researchers fail because they simply do not understand the demand science places on discovery of new species. That’s why they invest all of their time and effort in to dental resin and audio recorders. Which the end result is all their evidence ending up in the dustbin of cryptid curiosity and not biological discoveries.   Certainly time is something very few have. Most of us only commit to weekend forays because of other commitments. A month long study has a higher chance of success. But only if the end goal is physical evidence. Now finding a dead one is great. But what are the chances of that? We have discussed and debated DNA from a trackway or other trace evidence. And I am all for having as many fishing lines in the water as possible. But most people do not have the money or the connections to have a library of samples tested from a month long study.   Which leaves us with shooting one. As unpopular as this is with many? It’s cheap. It’s reliable. It’s readily available. And by looking at the number of sightings over the past 20 years? It’s the most under utilized. It’s also absolutely going to produce results. And it doesn’t even require a whole body. One foot or one hand would be sufficient to prove the species real.    If this rolls the stomach or is seen as too big of a risk? The only other offensive option would be an air gun with a biopsy dart. You shoot the animal and retrieve the dart. The flesh core is stored safely inside. While not a whole foot representing thousands of DNA samples? It should be sufficient to at least pass the torch off to real scientists. And then they can decide how to proceed into the future.   You mentioned North Idaho. That’s my backyard. I did find an elk femur broken and the marrow extracted close to north Idaho and would gladly share the location with you. In private if you prefer?     

Nuts No?   Just sounds like a good camping trip 

Obviously it was tiny and not the same color of hair as a bear.