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I just want to emphasize this before anyone gets in trouble. No religious topics may not be discussed in the open forum. However, you may discuss them in the Tar Pit if you like.    Thank you RedHawk, for your discussion of your incidents. I would have been out of the basement a lot sooner than you!

Then reality as our science understands it? Does not exist. Material science breaks down. What’s real? What is not?   Now we are in Simulation Theory and some hairy bugger has a cheat code. Any Quantum Physicists in the room?

Ok. Thank you for sharing your experiences. But steering the conversation back to Bigfoot? Much of the same religious and secular beliefs of the population still are applicable in a similar way to UFOs.   If you tell the population that a giant archaic hominid who is possibly cannibalistic is roaming our forest lands? What does summer camp look like? What does Yellowstone look like? What does the Boy Scouts look like? What does Church services look like? What do Universities look like?   How many years have we fought over the “missing link”? Etc.   I think Huntster is right. There will be profound ramifications that “they” would rather not deal with.   And again the Government purposefully built a loop hole into the system. The Smithsonian is exempt from the Indian Graves Act. Need a place to hide bones that are inconvenient? Smithsonian. 🤷‍♂️   Entities that are open and transparent don’t have loop holes and exemptions that fly in the face of being open and transparent.   Look at the Giants mystery. Look at the Clovis first narrative. And of course UFOs. There is just a massive amount of evidence in parallel fields that expose the government for what it is.

I have had very similar experiences except for the alien. My grandkids, wife and myself have experienced those things and much much more. We just got used to it. It was intermittent over the last 24 years, so I get breaks from it.

Yea I am sure he was at the time 6' tall.            No one looking for accuracy uses a tape measure to measure height.  You mark the height and THEN measure the height if you are limited only to a tape measure.  When people use the standing tape measure method it is full of errors and often measures them taller than they are esp. due to a wraparound effect.   Further Long has a bias where he needs Bob to be as tall as possible.   Not saying he did this and if Bob H is 6' 2'' that's fine by me.   I won't take longs word for it but would gladly take Bob H doctor visit records as accurate.    I personally could care less how tall Bob H is now so long as he is measured accurately.   Most people know how tall they were at their youngest and fittest.   When long quotes Bob H as saying he was 6" tall that is the most likely accurate take on his height in 1967.  I am sure Bob H reported these many times on any driver's license.  If he was a veteran, they measured him in the military.   Doctors' visits at the time would measure and weight him.  Bob Heironimus would know his height and have many opportunities to drill it into his head.     Patty could be 6'1'' tall and Bob H and millions of others could fit in a Patty suit if it was a suit.  That's fine.  The issue is if Bob H could be a man in a suit.     If I asked Roddy McDowell about his makeup process for Planet of the Apes, Roddy could likely tell me accurately in great detail all about the process.   He could describe how it was applied, who applied it, how long did things take to dry, did it itch, and so on.  He could tell you who the nice person who brought him coffee and doughnuts by name.         Bob Heironimus cannot do that.     Bob H -just on a suit alone- has constant changing the descriptions.  They can't all be right and if they are constantly changing his testimony cannot be trust if the change is dramatically different from previous claims.  Anyone who was there that day and camped that night before knows the soil is not "White as snow "   For all these and more, reasons bob H height is the least of his concerns.