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The frog legs at Don's Steak and Seafood in Shreveport Louisiana were good! They were as big as chicken drumsticks but longer overall. Biggie chows down on lots of stuff you or I would consider gross, Gross is a luxury a hard workin' squatch cannot afford!

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Wes, if I get lucky enough to visit you in Thailand as you have visited me in WA., I would surely visit as a vegetarian... LOL

Hope all is well my friend... Heading out Friday for a couple nights looking into the river bottoms... Gonna be cold cold with a winter front coming in, Jeez the knees are already aching at the thought...

Don't worry, we'll be on the Pork Chops, King Prawns & Steak via my BBQ..;)

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well octopus salad isnt too bad, they eat it in Spain & Italy & as far as frog legs go, well they arnt too bad when you deep fry 'em (not all that much meat on 'em but not too bad either!) :rolleyes:

they taste like chicken biggrin.gif

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I saw a LA swamp guy on tv last night eating fried frog legs and frog backs too. He said most people don't eat the backs but they taste just the same. He said they taste great but he cooked them too so I wouldn't expect him to say otherwise. To me they looked like they would taste real good though. Made me wish I was there to try them.

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They aren't bad Biggie, but when I had them they were still attached to the legs. It was just too froggy looking. But if you are wondering how they taste, it's just like chiken that has been fried in grease used to fry fish. Not great, but not disgusting either.

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Amphibians are hosts to many endoparasites, so species that prey on them often have a high parasite load. This makes me wonder the level of parasite load that bigfoot may purportedly have?

Scat samples would work, but verifying that the sample came from a bigfoot is difficult to prove.

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BF's diet to most other humans will sicken them because the human refuses to get to the level of survival of the BF... Eating everything raw, at times whole and alive will put off the typical city dweller and those with weaker constitutions, but hey survival is in itself heartless and at time cruel... BF probably eats insects, rodents whole, frogs, crayfish, fish, coons, rabbits, and everything else up to and including say elk, deer, moose, caribou etc... Also what happens is they eat garbage, guts, road kill, afterbirth and still born creatures in the fawn/calving season...

We must understand the food to BF is measured in nutrients and not how pretty it looks on a beautifully set table... To understand the species is to get to its level, observe and understand in a way that has to set aside all of your human traits...

Yes. And let's not forget that our own cultural biases colour our opinion. In some cultures, meat is eaten raw because fuel is in short supply (Arctic). In many cultures insects and small amphibians are eaten raw or cooked (I ate them too, as a child in Africa and thought nothing of it). We all know there is little difference between a lobster and a big crayfish, and lots of people even in NA in the old days ate coons, rabbits, etc. Homeless people shamelessly eat garbage and roadkill. In many cultures people eat the entrails, afterbirth and still born creatures, half-developed fowl in eggs, especially in Asia. You are right!

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This thread kinda gets me to thinking about the situation in Florida, if the swamp ape thing a ma bob down there gets an appetite for snakes and eggs they will be doing quit well, that should help the population grow to a larger size so someone can wack one crossing a road going from one swamp too another looking for some room.

Of course this is just one of my hair brained thoughts but it is one i can contribute to, i will be going down to FLA in the spring to see my Dad, by then the pythons should be just about taking over, if i am right there should be lots of Swamp apes and tons of chances to smack into one, just hope it ain't when i am out riding my bike. :)

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RRS,

Apex predators are interesting, as there are some that are generalists, while others are specialists. These species are usually the rarest in number when compared to all species in an ecosystem.

The food web can be complex enough with all its native components in balance, but when an invasive species is introduced, everything can get knocked out of balance and the restructuring of a system to accommodate an invasive may leave things forever changed. Granted, ecosystems are dynamic components, but in the case of invasive pythons in the Everglades, we still don't know what the lasting effects will be regarding this area of the USA.

I have no idea how skunk apes fit into this scheme of things, as they have never been studied scientifically!

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RRS,

I have no idea how skunk apes fit into this scheme of things, as they have never been studied scientifically!

Well there are reports of Skunk Ape's up the ying yang, in fact we even have a member here that will stand fast on his sighting with tenacious aggression toward anyone that questions it.

If there are skunk apes in FLA then i am sure the new food ( snake ) explosion will be too there advantage, when food is easily available then smart species take advantage and thrive, if the skunk ape is down there and snakes are crawling ( or slithering ) around, my guess is that the food source will be taken advantage of.

And let me say. if mister Swamp ape is slow to realize that then he might find MR Python just put him in his food chain.

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One morning in the early spring about 4 years ago I was walking an old gated road in the Ouachita NF. The road was alongside but several yards upslope from a spring-fed creek. The roadbed was primarily rock, but in place there was a depression in the road that held rainwater. There was grass growing along the side of the depression nearest the north side of the road, but nothing but broken rock around the other sides. The hole of water was about 8' long and about 3' wide and not much more than 3 or 4 inches deep. When approaching the water I was puzzled to see the fresh crushed bodies of dozens of Spring Peeper frogs floating all over the surface of the pool. As I reached the water I looked around the water's rocky edge for tracks or muddied water. There was neither. The frog bodies were pan-cake flat, and there were bits of either eggs or sperm clinging to the rears of the frogs. I walked around the pool to the grassy side and saw no evidence of any kind of tracks or muddied water, nor did I see any eggs or sperm anywhere around the pool. I had never seen anything like this in my 70 years as a wood's rat. I was so mystified that I sat down beside the pool to try to figure out what had killed the frogs and eaten their eggs, sperm and intestine without distrubing the water. I finally gave up and started up the road.

A few yards up the road I saw another one of the frog bodies in the tire trackway I was on. I picked it up and it too was fresh, damp and limp. Then for about every 20 yards up the road for several hundred yards there was another flattened Spring Peeper. I had been closely watching the rocky road bed for tracks, but saw nothing but ocassional deer tracks crossing the road. At one point the road crossed a drainage area that contained clay, small rocks and finely broken shale. The swale was about ten feet wide, and contained only old coyote tracks. As I crossed the drainage area I nearly stepped on a fresh, human-like heel print in the very edge of the softer clay/rock surace, and disturbed fine rock directly in front of the heel impression. From that point on the road surface was nothing but exposed rock, and I saw no other tracks of any kind.

While I did not see a Bigfoot doing it, it appears one of the creatures squatted by the water hole, ate what he wanted of the frogs, collected a handful of them and ate them on his way up the mountain in the same fashion as a person would eat muscadine grapes he had gathered to snack on as he walked.

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Guest tirademan

I agree with TooRisky. Like humans, they eat everything.

Some old stories elucidating that.

- edited to say I left out the berry eating stories...and some deer eating story too.

- and again to say, yes frog legs taste like chicken...Mom's culinary experiment of the 1970's...frozen frog legs!

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