bipedalist Posted March 14, 2015 BFF Patron Share Posted March 14, 2015 ^ it seems our own southernyahoo experienced some dubious Sykes feedback as I recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bipedalist Posted March 14, 2015 BFF Patron Share Posted March 14, 2015 But there is the possibility of redemption for southernyahoo (and other BF DNA sample possessors that feel slighted) according to a recent tweet from Rhettman Mullis: It is time to reveal a project that has been over a year in negotiation and preparation. With the success of the television program regarding the DNA project more shows are being ordered by a major network with the focus of performing DNA analysis, tell the corresponding story about the acquisition of the sample, and then reveal the result of that sample. This is a call for samples and stories. If you have a sample that needs DNA testing you can send it to the address below, along with a detailed account of the acquisition of the sample and story of your Bigfoot encounter, and your contact information. Your sample will be screened and your story evaluated to determine if it will be in the program. If you are chosen you will be contacted by me, or the film company producer. As usual, testing will be conducted by professional labs, and this subject will be treated with the utmost respect and integrity. Send story, sample, and your contact information to: BigfootologyPO Box 71Auburn, CA 95603 Questions can be emailed to bigfoot@bigfootology.com I will be in Auburn in the beginning of April and will begin processing samples at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuchi1 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 And you don't see that in play with the anti kill players???? Duck, cover, make counter-accusations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted March 15, 2015 Admin Share Posted March 15, 2015 ^^^^^^ Not at all.,,, It's a simple question. I see the lion's share of the three ring circus squarely in the anti kill camp. 1) Melba Ketchum 2) Todd Standing 3) Matt Moneymaker I could go on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Quite frankly I do not trust Sykes motivation or involvement in BF or Yeti. A scientific skeptic can make more points with his colleagues from proving something is a bear than going to the fringe of science and risking ridicule. He comes off as a hard core skeptic to me. If some object with a questionable chain of custody (all of what he gets is in this category) shows some markers similar to human, it is easier to assume contamination, than go out on a limb and proclaim a new species. People have sent a lot of stuff to him and never hear any results back. Ever wonder why? I wonder every day why??? My own personal observation regarding scientists is that there is a fear of losing your funding if you are involved with a university and then what? The scientist is literally out on the street and I just don't believe that there are that many who would risk it. Look at the insults at the reputation of a few scientists who have gone out on a limb. PR can be bad, no matter what some people say..... Did those people who donated their evidence have a contract????? That would be the only way to keep it above board, and even that is not foolproof.??? If you were not there in the lab then you have nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWWASAS Posted March 15, 2015 BFF Patron Share Posted March 15, 2015 Contract? They were expected to be honored that the great Dr Sykes took their sample in for testing. He by his own admission picked and chose those he submitted to DNA extraction. That by it's nature is subjective. DNA containing materials without a chain of custody will always be suspect. Without a body, or a bleeding BF, I do not know how anyone can be reasonably sure that any material is from BF. All Sykes is succeeding at is nailing the lid on the coffin of DNA collected without a body. The more he publishes, the less likely anyone will submit any material or that other labs will go to trouble or the expense to test samples. Many proclaim his efforts but I think it is calculated to debunk the quest for existence. Main stream science is probably joyous every time he publishes his testing reports and he probably receives accolades for his efforts. It shows how enlightened main stream science is and have been, for not believing this BF nonsense in the first place. The test results that do not fit the debunk agenda are simply not reported or interpreted as contaminated. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowBorn Posted March 15, 2015 Moderator Share Posted March 15, 2015 " The test results that do not fit the debunk agenda are simply not reported or interpreted as contaminated." Thats why there should be a log of who handles the DNA and have their DNA on file. This way it can not be said to the said quote above. If the DNA comes back as contaminated as human it can be match to who ever handled it. If the DNA comes that of human we would be a lot closer to the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuchi1 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 ^^^^^^ Not at all.,,, It's a simple question. I see the lion's share of the three ring circus squarely in the anti kill camp. 1) Melba Ketchum 2) Todd Standing 3) Matt Moneymaker I could go on and on. The point is, you speak from a position of ignorance in that you have no idea of that which you seek to kill. That, goes against all basis of foundation for recovery of a body. In other words, you're on the same level as NAWAC, firing off rounds into the woods at targets that are not conclusively identified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted March 16, 2015 Admin Share Posted March 16, 2015 ^^^^^^ Huh? Your talking gibberish..... NO BODY including you has any idea of WHAT a Sasquatch truly is. Unless of course you have dissected one on a table as a scientist and have pegged its DNA on the tree of life. We all have our theories, but no one will truly know until that day comes, Your experience is that it's big and scary and reduces many men to the point of tears. With that said Bob Gimlin could have dropped Patty like a sack of potatoes in the Patterson Gimlin film with no problem. Justin Smeja claims to have shot a whole family of Sasquatch without a scratch on him... The point being is that your account is just one account of many. And the accounts don't all line up either. So it's quite possible that your experience is unique or your memory of the events is worse than it was or the other accounts are hogwash. Body recovery....your talking Bigfoot Army again yes? Lastly? How do you conclusively identify a target that doesn't exist? I advocate not talking long shots, and if I cannot identify a 8' tall bipedal hairy primate at 50 yards versus a Bear or Human? I probably should get out of the hunting business all together. Because how would I be able to discern a Whitetail from a Mule deer or a buck from a doe? Really? From your own description? Shouldn't be very hard identifying something that throws heavy metal hunting stands around like toys.......prolly not a man in a gorilla suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuchi1 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 ^^^^^^ Huh? Your talking gibberish..... NO BODY including you has any idea of WHAT a Sasquatch truly is. Unless of course you have dissected one on a table as a scientist and have pegged its DNA on the tree of life. We all have our theories, but no one will truly know until that day comes, Then, how are you going to know what you are pulling the trigger at? You just made my point. Your experience is that it's big and scary and reduces many men to the point of tears. With that said Bob Gimlin could have dropped Patty like a sack of potatoes in the Patterson Gimlin film with no problem. Justin Smeja claims to have shot a whole family of Sasquatch without a scratch on him... The point being is that your account is just one account of many. And the accounts don't all line up either. So it's quite possible that your experience is unique or your memory of the events is worse than it was or the other accounts are hogwash. Have you asked Gimin why he didn't shoot? Smeja now claims to have shot a bear. Body recovery....your talking Bigfoot Army again yes? Lastly? How do you conclusively identify a target that doesn't exist? I advocate not talking long shots, and if I cannot identify a 8' tall bipedal hairy primate at 50 yards versus a Bear or Human? I probably should get out of the hunting business all together. Because how would I be able to discern a Whitetail from a Mule deer or a buck from a doe? Really? How would you identify a hairy figure and non-human? From your own description? Shouldn't be very hard identifying something that throws heavy metal hunting stands around like toys.......prolly not a man in a gorilla suit. Point is from what you appear to know, chasing unicorns might be your better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted March 16, 2015 Admin Share Posted March 16, 2015 ^^^^^^ I think I'am talking to the master unicorn hunter...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuchi1 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 ^^^ You may well be however, at least I've seen one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norseman Posted March 16, 2015 Admin Share Posted March 16, 2015 ^^^^^^^ No, you've shot and tracked one and collected a blood sample, remember? So put up or shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Nathan, Have you confirmed how the group will support you in the field? Who is funding food supplies, medicine, support? Do you have any confirmation of the funds being available to support you folks out in the field for 6 months? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuchi1 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 ^^^^^^^ No, you've shot and tracked one and collected a blood sample, remember? So put up or shut up. You're going afield so please refer to my post on the other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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