The Kill Club

[norseman]

i dont agree that we have to have a hot lead to work off of although it certainly helps. alot of recon work will pay dividends as well. iam also inclined to believe that place names are a good place to start from ie skookum, devil, etc

i also dont think we need much money just dedication and persistence

[BobbyO]

If you don't have a lead Norse, that's a hell of a lot of forest out there to be looking for a Sasquatch in and more like a hiking trip than anything else.

[norseman]

If you don't have a lead Norse, that's a hell of a lot of forest out there to be looking for a Sasquatch in and more like a hiking trip than anything else.

It's mind numbingly vast for sure. And I don't mind hiking trips in it.........

I'll keep doing what I'm doing, which is using predator calls in a attempt to lure one in. I can successfully call in bear, sounding like a wounded rabbit or bleating fawn.......so why not a Sasquatch?

Another thing I'm going to start incorporating is what I've gleaned from the 411 books. I'm going to start calling in areas that have place names that are connected to Sasquatch. These areas for whatever the reason seem to hold them. And many missing people are lost in and around these areas.

Lastly I'm gearing up for some night operation capabilities, I've put a picatinny rail on my guide gun, now I just need a tac light and laser combo:

http://www.surefire.com/illumination/weaponlights/rifle-carbine-smg/x-seriesweaponlights/x400-led-weaponlight.html

[Guest]

Look also at NA legends and stories.

And, since most folks who will be doing this are hopefully already seasoned hikers/campers/hunters, the equipment won't be an expense. And since most folks will already have audio and video capabilities and weapons, that isn't a consideration, either. Just permits, gas, fees and what you need for a few weeks/several trips. I don't see it being prohibitively expensive, either. A newbie with brand new boots and a fancy tent that's never been used should not be attempting this.

Edited March 13, 2013 by madison5716

[norseman]

Look also at NA legends and stories.

And, since most folks who will be doing this are hopefully already seasoned hikers/campers/hunters, the equipment won't be an expense. And since most folks will already have audio and video capabilities and weapons, that isn't a consideration, either. Just permits, gas, fees and what you need for a few weeks/several trips. I don't see it being prohibitively expensive, either. A newbie with brand new boots and a fancy tent that's never been used should not be attempting this.

There are many pitfalls with simply hunting......going out into the woods sounding like a cow elk is going to draw predators, or squirting estrus on your boots and smelling like one. You could be shot by mistake by some dummy as well..........

Through something like Sasquatch into the mix?

People should be prepared mentally as well as physically with a good dose of bushcraft in order to attempt this for sure. And while it's not productive to be afraid of the risks, a person needs to evaluate the risks and weigh the rewards. As well as have back up plans WHEN not if their first plan fails them. Same goes for gear........test it, make sure it suits your purpose and then pack two of them.........not in the same spot on your person. I.e. Flashlight, knife, ammo, compass, etc....

While I have looked at the NA legends and stories? The Res is off limits for me and my plan for legal reasons. I know of a very good hotspot across the river from my house on the res. Squatch is safe there.......

Edited March 13, 2013 by norseman

[Doc Holliday]

norse, re: using the predator calls, just a quick thought here ....... any precautions for human scent control while doing so? ive seen coyotes circle down wind to smell before committing to the call & coming in. i've also witnessed the same from mature whitetail bucks when using a grunt call. so , I figure something supposedly as intelligent as BF would possibly do the same ......without scent lok, or dead down wind sprays etc, you could possibly be putting BF the last place you'd want it for a chance at a a kill shot.......downwind ( and aware) of your position.

[norseman]

norse, re: using the predator calls, just a quick thought here ....... any precautions for human scent control while doing so? ive seen coyotes circle down wind to smell before committing to the call & coming in. i've also witnessed the same from mature whitetail bucks when using a grunt call. so , I figure something supposedly as intelligent as BF would possibly do the same ......without scent lok, or dead down wind sprays etc, you could possibly be putting BF the last place you'd want it for a chance at a a kill shot.......downwind ( and aware) of your position.

Correct.

Observation of wind and a scent blocker or cover are in order. I just spray myself up with a earth scent or pine scent.

If you can call in a bear, you can call in anything.............keenest nose in the forest.

[BobbyO]

Whilst I can see where you are coming from with old place names etc, I can't shift the idea of looking closer into more recent sightings where available rather than places that were named 100 plus years ago.

There may well have been Sasquatches in those places initially, but we are talking at least two generations on, if not three or possibly even more, so there wouldn't be anything at all to say that there would be still Sasquatches in that immediate area.

We don't know enough about these things either way to say that 1 ) They remain or return to the same place or 2 ) That they migrate away from a certain place granted, but I'd be much more inclined to focus on a lead where one or more were moving through a certain area at a certain time of year and try to connect the dots via actual sighting reports.

I think the numbers can help, I just need to work them out so ill start trying.

[norseman]

while sightings are great? the problem with a sighting is that it takes a human to see one. and then it needs to be reported to someone.

i think the inland temperate rain forest has just as many squatch as coastal rain forest..... the difference is we have a lot less people hence alot less reports

and read the 411 books....place names are significant concerning activity

dont get me wrong i like a hot track, but short of that there are orher methods that could produce results

[BobbyO]

Absolutely, I don't disagree at all about the western WA > eastern WA and the lack of people as you are right, it does take people to report a sighting of course.

And I'm at a loss looking at numbers for Ferry, PO and Stevens Counties as there just isn't enough numbers ( reports ) public to do any kind of analysis or look for any kind of real patterns.

I have the 411 Western US book but haven't got around to reading it yet fully, but will soon.

[norseman]

according to 411 here are the similarities

1-dogs with missing

2-hounds cannot track

3-abducted prior to a storm

4-afternoon disappearance

5-missing found in swamp or briar patch

6-loss of memory

7-berries

8-clothes removed

9-missing found in area already searched

10-place names

[Skookum Chuck]

Henry Franzoni has done some excellent work collecting place names as they relate to reports. Don't remember if that was in " Spirit of Seatco" or his prior works, but he has painstakingly collected and mapped every place he could find with a name related to sasquatch...places named by both NA and early settlers.

[BobbyO]

Yeah i think Norseman added the link to all the names earlier in the thread, or at least i think he did ?

[norseman]

Henry Franzoni has done some excellent work collecting place names as they relate to reports. Don't remember if that was in " Spirit of Seatco" or his prior works, but he has painstakingly collected and mapped every place he could find with a name related to sasquatch...places named by both NA and early settlers.

Yes I've read his stuff, he had his first sighting by going up to a place name on a lark.

From the 411 books we can deduce that:

If your walking your dog in a rural area, right before a storm in the afternoon wearing bright clothing (I forgot that one) or picking berries or both........you have a very high risk of becoming missing. Add to that, if you are taken your going to be stripped naked......drug into easily defensible position (either a swamp or briar patch) and either end up dead or have your memory erased.......

A couple of things comes to mind for me playing that scenario over and over again......

If I was going to kidnap someone? And I didn't want them to get away? I would take their shoes for sure.

USMC Force Recon in Nam would harbor up at night (RON or Remain Over Night for the Army) in the nastiest terrain they could find, the thicker and more hostile the better. This is one tactic that would keep the team alive if a NVA hunter killer team was out prowling around.......they would often avoid these areas especially at night. If I had any indication that I was going to be followed, I would make it extremely difficult for the followers to follow.

The dog could be getting the owner into trouble, the dog sees and gives chase and the owner follows.

Also taking someone late in the day ensures that your followers will be bucking dark attempting to follow you. Same goes for a storm.

Edited March 14, 2013 by norseman

[norseman]

iam thinking that some sort of conference gathering like minded people together might be a good way of getting something like this off the ground?