Tree Manipulation/ Wood Structures: What Is The Evidence?

[Guest]

 

There was a question about the brown spot in the photo of the twist. I looked at the original photo I took and the brown spot is the inside of the bark on the other side of the twist as you are looking at it. There was no insect in the photo.

 

 

Thanks for the answers! Hope you stick around and talk bigfootin' with us!

 

My pleasure Rockape. I plan on staying around. this is very interesting.

 

Thanks Pistola. A very nice summary of the context, which is always helpful. This is W. TN, for those who didn't catch that. Beautiful country.

 

I just wish all BFRO reports had this breadth of backstory to go with them, but of course this is not practicable. Makes your information all the more valuable.

 

You're welcome WSA, I try to make sure that I pay attention to things (being in the service for a lot of years tends to instill that Ha Ha) I wanted to give everyone all of the information that I have and they can make decision on that. However, honestly, there will not be a conclusion to this, unless I had actually seen it happen. Now, I know there are skeptics that want to pick this apart, but every bit of information I have given is 100% accurate.

 

Nakni, I did not see any other break on the limb. As far as saying a person did it, well, I tried and was unsuccessful. I believe that someone would have had to pull a truck up to the limb and pull on it that way to get the result that I saw. But as I explained before, I honestly doubt a person did it between midnight and 7:30am on a Monday.

 

I have mowed around that tree since I bought this property in Nov 2005, and on that Sunday, I did mow around it. I did not notice anything about the limb until morning. I did mow under that limb, but the mower nor myself touched it. and again, the weather was calm. These are the facts and that is all I know. One thing I have wondered about, since people have brought up wind, is if it was wind, then why were there no other limbs damaged on the entire tree, and if the wind was that strong, you would think so.  As far as people go, I just can't fathom anyone being able to do that, but that is from me being able to go out and grab the limbs myself.

 

That is all I have for tonight, I will be able to post again tomorrow morning.

 

Thanks Y'all.

[Guest]

Pistola,

I thought the branch was 1 1/2 inches thick, would a truck really be required to break it? I wasn't wondering if the branch was broken any where else, I was suggesting that the initial break was from a downward pull and once the branch was cracked/split then it was twisted around. It is something I've done many times to break branches when I find myself without something to cut them with.

[Faenor]

Bigfoot runs into this neighborhood full of houses and people breaks and branch and then runs away. This makes a lot if sense and is completely believable.

[Guest Crowlogic]

^^^Bigfoot throws pine cones from undisclosed locations, escorts interlopers gently out of it's territory and never harms a soul.  Well why the hey did it evolve into a 1000 pound giant to gently toss pine cones at the faithful and be less domineering than a personal shopping assistant at a department store?

[Guest]

Up until yesterday, I had figured that the photo of the twist in the limb would have been sufficient and I did not measure the limb itself. So, for everyone's benefit I measured it last night and took a photo for those who are less trusting.

 

Pistola,

I thought the branch was 1 1/2 inches thick, would a truck really be required to break it? I wasn't wondering if the branch was broken any where else, I was suggesting that the initial break was from a downward pull and once the branch was cracked/split then it was twisted around. It is something I've done many times to break branches when I find myself without something to cut them with.

 

The point I was trying to make is, from me going out to the tree and grabbing it myself, it would take more than a person to do that to the limb. 

 

Here is the photo I took last night. keep in mind that the twist is 8 yrs old and dried.

 

[Guest]

Hello Pistola,

Those pictures were very helpful. Judging by the shape of the branch, it looks as though no twisting was involved at all. Simply pulling down on the end of that "J" shaped branch would have caused strain on the crook where the break happened, resulting in a twisted break.

Looking at the branch in your hand, I see how tiny it is. At 6 feet in length can you honestly say that the average person couldn't get enough leverage to break it?

I originally thought it was teens on their way to a party or something but it being Sunday night and you said no teens live in the area, kinda puts some doubt on that theory. A more plausible scenario is burglars, Sunday is the night when everyone is most likely to be asleep. They were probably targeting the house with the pool or just your neighborhood in general. The criminal masterminds thought a lookout was a good idea and set up watch in your tree so they could keep an eye on the roads. I'm guessing the break occurred as he was coming down from the tree.

[Rockape]

^ I hope you're not serious.

[Guest]

^Rockape,

Could you explain where I went off the rails? Keep in mind burglars exist, dogs bark at prowlers, and that tree is in a strategic location. Also years ago, when I lived in Edmonton, I was visiting a friend, we went outside to have a smoke and saw some kids snooping around his neighbors yard. We yelled at them and they scattered, including the one hiding in a tree as a lookout.

[Rockape]

A burglar climbed a tree?

 

Between that and a bigfoot did it, I say it's more likely a bigfoot did it.

[Guest]

^ No the "lookout" climbed the tree, he's usually the one who is a bit out of his league, hanging with the wrong crowd. He's the one who volunteered to be the lookout because he's scared to get into trouble but doesn't want his friends to know. He's the one who was going to tell the police "I was just the lookout".

[Guest]

Nakani, It was not oceans 11 with a look out. You are reaching way out there, and although I understand why and how skeptical you are, you will have to take my word for it that the twist was not caused by someone climbing the tree. the tree where it sits would not be ideal for that, even if there were any smart criminals around here that would have a team, with a lookout. Nice try though, not feasible. 

 

Hello Pistola,

Those pictures were very helpful. Judging by the shape of the branch, it looks as though no twisting was involved at all. Simply pulling down on the end of that "J" shaped branch would have caused strain on the crook where the break happened, resulting in a twisted break.

Looking at the branch in your hand, I see how tiny it is. At 6 feet in length can you honestly say that the average person couldn't get enough leverage to break it?

I originally thought it was teens on their way to a party or something but it being Sunday night and you said no teens live in the area, kinda puts some doubt on that theory. A more plausible scenario is burglars, Sunday is the night when everyone is most likely to be asleep. They were probably targeting the house with the pool or just your neighborhood in general. The criminal masterminds thought a lookout was a good idea and set up watch in your tree so they could keep an eye on the roads. I'm guessing the break occurred as he was coming down from the tree.

 

I first thought it could be a bear, and that is a possibility. But the limb would have been more damaged than it was. I have spent a lot of time in the woods, hunting and photography, and in my 51 years on this earth, I can say that I don't know what twisted that limb, but I can exclude by man. Maybe a weather anomaly that wasn't registered or some animal, but not a man. Now we can keep bringing up criminal masterminds that get in look out trees on late Sunday/early Monday mornings lol but personally, I think we are better to move on from that thought. 

 

Now, if anyone has any more serious suggestions, I will gladly answer them, but I am going to start ignoring the ridiculous ones.

[Rockape]

Burglar, lookout, all the same. Still far fetched.

[Branco]

^Rockape,

Could you explain where I went off the rails? Keep in mind burglars exist, dogs bark at prowlers, and that tree is in a strategic location. Also years ago, when I lived in Edmonton, I was visiting a friend, we went outside to have a smoke and saw some kids snooping around his neighbors yard. We yelled at them and they scattered, including the one hiding in a tree as a lookout.

Did all the "kids" have on dark clothing? Running fast as greased lighting? Didn't look like the "kid" in this report from near Edmonton, did it?   

 

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=12001

[Guest]

Burglar, lookout, all the same. Still far fetched.

Ok, I have another theory. It was a giant ape who runs around suburban USA, twisting branches. Better?

[Guest]

^Rockape,

Could you explain where I went off the rails? Keep in mind burglars exist, dogs bark at prowlers, and that tree is in a strategic location. Also years ago, when I lived in Edmonton, I was visiting a friend, we went outside to have a smoke and saw some kids snooping around his neighbors yard. We yelled at them and they scattered, including the one hiding in a tree as a lookout.

Did all the "kids" have on dark clothing? Running fast as greased lighting? Didn't look like the "kid" in this report from near Edmonton, did it?   

 

http://www.bfro.net/GDB/show_report.asp?id=12001

It was quite a few years ago but if I remember correctly, they had dark clothing and yes they took off pretty fast. Except for the lookout, we were just about finished our smoke when we heard a scraping noise. We looked over and saw one of them climbing out of a tree.

I'll look at your link after supper.