Scenario...what Would You Do, If You Have Discovered A Body?

[Guest UPs]

I simply do not know how I would react, but anyone in this situation is going to have a fear response and in the past, I have been able to control it 99 percent of the time. I would use the camera to document everything and to hopefully, keep the whoopers at bay while I used the pocket knife to remove a thumb, fingers, and toes. The handgun could also be used to break bone at the elbow joint to remove the other whole arm. I am not sure why this camper does not have a hatchet or saw with them as I never go camping without both of them. I would also leave the camera on video mode on a stump to document what I was doing in case things went badly for me.

If I was not already packed up, I would grab the camera and throw the contents of the cooler in the back of the truck and anything else I had that could be quickly tossed into the truck and get the heck out of there. As long as I was able to get a chunk of meat in the form or an arm, thumb, etc, the video would be significant documentation of how these were collected and if things turned out badly, it may capture what happened. I would not disclose anything to a park ranger that may come into the campground to close it for the season.

My first call would to my father who is now a retired university professor and the most intelligent person I have ever known. I would want he and I to meet with Dr. Meldrum to discuss their recommendations and once a plan was put into place, hire a lawyer to make sure that I have complete control over all evidence and documentation. At this point, I would think using a helicopter to get into the site and recover any other evidence or at worse, document the entire area if unable to put feet on the ground. I would not contract any media or anyone outside of my small group until a preliminary study of the evidence was done.

I think one of the worst things that could be done is to contact any media right away and have it turn into a circus. We have seen this in the past and it never ends up well. There certainly could be legal matters that you may have to deal with, but a competent lawyer should be able to minimize your exposure to them.

[Guest]

If I had ammo for my 9mm that would anchor a 700 to 900 lb. primate with a through-and-through chest shot at 300 yards, I would not fear any North American land animal, real or postulated, and since your scenario does not limit the number of rounds there would be plenty available. Like Rex, I'm always armed unless entering a facility with physical security checks, i.e. magnetometers, scanners, etc. (I live in the foothills of Montana's Elkhorn Mountains and have seen a cougar within 80 feet of my front door).

 

As far as media, only if anonymity were guaranteed. I'm financially comfortable, and the only route to money in this is accompanied by fame, and it is highly overrated. Privacy, such as there is of it these days, is priceless. Hope that covers the bases.

 

I didn't put that together until you said it.  At first I did wonder about a 9mm round going clear through one of these beasts - given the reports of their size.  Didn't realize it was 300 yards away - day-um! 

 

I agree on the fame and money - while the money might be nice, it's not worth my privacy.  I also agree with Norse - it's about the discovery, not the discoverer.

[Guest DWA]

No kidding.

 

Some people, um, there, Ms. Kardashian, don't seem to have all the angles figured out when they go for fame.  One is advised to consider those angles.

[BobbyO]

 

Would you contact the media or publicize the findings? If so, what would be your process if you were to publish? Thanks again Rex.

Thank you BobbyO, you answered most of the questions. The scenario is designed to give someone one chance to get what science wants. Your answer was "i do not know". this is a valid answer and as you mentioned everyone is different and reacts differently. But lets us take form the point of you taking a digit from the corpse in your last comment. Once you have it, how are you storing it and in what are you storing it? Also, would you publish any findings, if so to what parties? 

FIRST thing id do is talk to Norseman as I know he's fully prepared for what to do in this event and I'm not, and then look to move forward from there.

I'd look at the legalities and talk to numerous people where that's concerned as a matter of urgency to make sure my butt's covered, and then covered again.

I'd then highly likely look at bringing the sample to the UK as I'd be more comfortable obviously there and I think taking the heat out of the situation and avoiding potential leaks as to what happened, wouldn't be a bad thing at all, then talk to numerous people regarding the testing process and decide on who to go with.

I'd also make sure I was covered there, and then covered again, just for my own sanity and so nothing can be distorted.

And then if we were all good to go and all positive, I'd hire a media management company to contact the Press Association and we'd tell the world..

[Arrowhead]

I would consider a multipronged approach. As other have said, document the best I can with video and pictures, I like the idea someone had of using the rope as a tape measure. As also mentioned, leave the camera filming as I remove evidence such as the head, fingers/toes, fetus, etc. Pack this away in the cooler, keeping my 9mm at the ready for the angry family members in the shadows.  Since they are so smart, they will know I what the gun is for after seeing what happened to their wife/sister.  Warning shots should suffice to remind them.

 

But, I would take the cooler full of evidence and hide it temporarily just in case things go wrong or I have to make a hasty escape, it will safeguard the evidence at least temporarily for retrieval later – even through winter if necessary.  Since there is a BF clan in the area, there will no doubt be many downed trees and logs they have pushed over. I would gather up as large of logs I could and fashion a raft using the rope, guitar string, laces off my spare footwear, etc.  By using long large saplings (which no doubt the BFs have also snapped off), I would use these as a levers to roll the carcass on the raft.  OR, simply tie the body to large logs so that floats in the water (OP says body is below water line so it sounds like it could already be in the water). 

 

Cover the raft/body with any bright colored materials like the tent or rain gear so it stands out and I can track it as it floats away.  Set the body/raft afloat downstream.  Grab the camera and cooler and head back to the truck.  Follow the river back until there is a river crossing or where it can be accessed with the truck.  This might take a while and have to drive all night, but it gets me and the body out of the area.  Now I just have to wait for the body to float to my location and I can load in my truck.

 

Now if I’m driving a pickup truck in the middle of nowhere, I will have basic extrication tools like ratchet straps and tow straps.  I think that is a fair assumption as they weren’t part of my camping gear and didn’t play a part in removing the body from the scene.  Now I can drag the body from the river with the truck over to the nearest large tree.  If I throw the tow strap over a big strong limb I can use the truck to lift the BF high enough in the air to load in the truck (have to tie it off first).  Then it’s back to civilization and the big reveal.

 

So, if all goes wrong, I at least have video and pictures.  Or if the raft get hung up or can’t retrieve the body, I have physical evidence.  And if all goes well, I’ll have the find of a lifetime!

[Skookum Chuck]

I too, was wondering about the 9mm pistol round that left an exit wound at 300 yards.  Since no such round exists, said squatch had to be shot by someone else correct?    Wasn't me.

[Guest Rex]

Rex, thanks for the reply. I wanted to re-enfornce the scenario and mention, even though you can get in with a crow bar, horse, the point of the scenario is to state there is no access at all to give the impression this is a one time chance, unless they wait for spring.

  No need to  Re-Reinforce anything, if ANYONE were to come across a dead monkee critter, the fact is that it would be a "one time chance" no matter how many guitars, superdooper 9mms or hackey-sacks you had with you.  Thats the whole point. NO ONE would have the opportunity twice.  Therefore i do what needs doin and don't worry about the rest. Even if you could get back there a body goes away pretty fast in the woods. Now given that I was already there, nothin would stop me from goin back anytime i wanted.

 

 

 

Same with the weapon, if the scenario implies no firearms allowed, that also should be taken as fact.

  Sorry son.. that aint fact, not in my world..  not in my life .. if I walk out the door a 1911 is on my side. it doesn't matter where I go it stays.. even if I go to the bar.  If someone does not like that too bad.  Yeah.. I'm a scofflaw, always have been.  but they are my rights to exercise. Regardless of what your 'scenario" implies.. it'll never happen like that. 

 

 

Regardless of the laws here, this is added and implied a generic location / country / state etc.. So I can take into account for places around the world and furthermore add complexity and legal implications. 

 

Lets just say we keep a contingency plan onboard outside the country as well.    Its only illegal if you pay attention to "the law"

 

 

 

Would you contact the media or publicize the findings? If so, what would be your process if you were to publish? Thanks again Rex.

 

 

 

 After taking the head, I would get it home...  sit it on a table, start the camcorder and make it mouth the words...   "Bill Brasky!"  Then i would freeze that SOB solid.

 

I would take the footage,  and fly to Dmakers location.  Sit down with a few molsen canadians and make him watch it.

 

When he told me I was a liar.. then I would force the CP to the location where i had it,  make him stick his fingers in the nose and mouth.. lick the eyeballs, kiss it passionately and make him break the news here that i had a squatch head on ice.

 

I'd let him go back home then.. and move the head to another location.

 

At which time i would wait to see what the "fallout" would be. i would know who to deal with and who not to deal with and to be quite honest, i doubt i would deal with ANY of the so called scientists in this field. i have seen how they act... BFRO..pffft  meldrum.. i think not.. nawac, they are getting their own, right?

 

It would get out..  to the right people, piece by piece until there was not doubt that the remnants were legitimate.

 

Screw the government.. i don't really care what threats they toss down..  they get nothin.

 

Then I'll do the talk circuit annually with Dmaker sitting beside me holding a stuffed crow...  if he wants the money of course...  LOL

 

 

[NCBFr]

- Place the camera or cell phone in video mode and prop against a rock or tree pointing towards the body

- Run like heck back to the truck and leave the scene

- Come back the next day and retrieve the camera.  Drive truck all the way down to the river.

- Enjoy the video and probably keep it to myself.

[Guest]

I too, was wondering about the 9mm pistol round that left an exit wound at 300 yards.  Since no such round exists, said squatch had to be shot by someone else correct?    Wasn't me.

Nobody said you shot the Sasquatch, you figured the odds it was you since you were shooting in the area. There is no hidden mystery. You were shooting, dead Sasquatch. Question is: What would you do? Science wants a body. 

 

- Come back the next day and retrieve the camera.  Drive truck all the way down to the river.

 

In the scenario, the area is now closed, no airplane, truck, crowbar, horse, tunnel can get you back into the park. It is closed to force you into decision making time. 

[Guest]

 After taking the head, I would get it home...  sit it on a table, start the camcorder and make it mouth the words...   "Bill Brasky!"  Then i would freeze that SOB solid.

 

Absolutely classic!!

 

In the scenario, the area is now closed, no airplane, truck, crowbar, horse, tunnel can get you back into the park. It is closed to force you into decision making time. 

 

In my scenario I found out the secret to the big guy's cloaking-time traveling-shape shifting-teleportation abilities.  Can I use that to get back to the body?  

[Guest]

    Obviously first take all of the photos that your cell camera will possibly hold.

Head to the truck and dump the food out of the cooler unwrap all of it and throw it 10-20 yards it in the direction of the whoops.

 

Get under the truck and cut off the gas fill vent hose drain some gas into the cooler or the water jug, kink over the hose.

 

Dump leaves and sicks on the truck battery pour gas on the pile ,arc out the battery with a tent pole or gituar string, Make-um-fire ! Big Fire next to the truck.

 

Pour the gas in a 200-300 yard fire corridor of safety between the body and the truck . Start a Forest Fire !

What the hell if we are gonna disrespect our beautiful mother nature for this ," Once in a Mellinium Find " we might as well make it good ,It might even bring a hot shot fire crew your way.

 

Take the Tail gate the truck  tie the rope to one end of  it as a drag sled.

 

Decide to cut baby's body out as the very last resort. Thats what the guitar case is for.

 

Adrenaline pumpin, Roll Fat Mama as best as possible up into the tent, sleeping bag and poncho and then on to the tail gate and /or a drag skid Travois made of sticks and piles of leaves. Tie the rope to either the skid or Mommas neck, loop it around your waist n use your calves /leggs one friggin inch at a time.  

 

cap off a shot or two every so often. and re gas the fire lines.

 

Get Momma on the tail gate skid

[Sunflower]

Have you heard the story about the hunter that was found in a gazillion pieces?  I'll have to track down the report, but I believe it mentioned that authorities went back and found the rifle bent around a tree?  Does anyone know where to find this report?

[Guest]

Finisher to my earlier post
 
Get Momma on the tailgate skid tie her  to the bumper and drag her all the way back to this,
Inhumane place we call civilization !
 
Finally report the Forest Fire and change your pooped pants.
 
I cant believe I'm gonna write this next paragraph---
Because we probobly should have respected her life,her clan and left her in her native habitat.
 
Of course hire an attorney and decide the media release, copy rights and merchandising with extremely careful contemplation.
She should fetch a cool Fifty Million easy .   :-(    :-(  
 
I know there has to be some jerks in marketing that would just love to put a beef jerky tee shirt or running shoes on her.[/size]
 [/size]
Oh yeah let the bigfoot forums know they will need to start a new web forum .[/size]
 
"Can you even imagine the look on the taxidermists face " :-)[/size]

Edited September 16, 2013 by Ginger
To Edit Inappropriate Language

[Guest zenmonkey]

Regardless if you are a skeptic. If you were in this situation, I need to know what you would do. I have not had a skeptic reply to this scenario and eagerly awaiting. Please be serious and answer the main questions even if you do not believe. This is a scenario only. 1. Would you take evidence. 2. What evidence, how would you transport, store and who would you contact. 3. If you contacted the media, what media would you contact.

Ooh... another new response and reasons. This is good. Basically, you have confined in your mind now that you have seen one and now can rest in peace.

After you get your evidence, you basically get media involved. Then, some sarcastic shove it feast and invite the biggest skeptics, hosted by you? Is this your final answer?

OK, so now we have more details on what body part and why! You never answered where, what and how you would store this evidence. Did you want to answer those? thanks

Oops sorry about the repost doing this on my phone it's kinda irritating me. You place the items over Ice. Not in the ice. But like in a waterproof bag (ziplock bag) for the smaller stuff of course. Just don't have any part actually touching the ice itself

[Guest]

Have you heard the story about the hunter that was found in a gazillion pieces?  I'll have to track down the report, but I believe it mentioned that authorities went back and found the rifle bent around a tree?  Does anyone know where to find this report?

 

 

I googled this one ! NOT a BF. No bent gun !     A Hog/ feral pig attack in Texas after the hunter shot a 400 lbs. Sow

Seems her family was not amused and were hungry !

Edited September 15, 2013 by Primal Fear