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I was aware that a serial killer had been caught and that the disappearance still continued.  The figures for the disappearances cover a 3 decade period, and I doubt the killer is responsible for all of that. I didn't know about DNA linking two different serial killers, not sure how it's known they are serial killers, but that means the bodies were found.  Whatever is happening with all the disappearances the police have tried to divert any notions of bigfoot having anything to do with it.  And I don't know that it did.  It just goes with the 411 books, that there are clusters where people disappear.

The official total is 18 women although some aboriginal groups claim it is over 40.

This 500 mile stretch of road is extremely remote and rugged, think of similar roads in Alaska

Www.highwayoftears.ca

Bobby Jack Fowler may have killed as many as 10 of the victims however dna has only linked him to 1 case and he is strongly linked to 2 others

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/06/26/highway-of-tears-investigation-suspects_n_5534188.html?utm_hp_ref=highway-of-tears

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Thank you but don't forget about the Doctors and Nurses who see the seedy side of the results what human beings visit upon one another. Couple that with illnesses, misery, death and dying on a daily basis, there is little room for recreational release and recoupment ...

Thanks Gumshoeye, Because of my supposedly compassionate nature, my college and nursing grades, plus my high scores on my nursing boards, I was placed on an intensive care oncology unit, it was also for critical ill patients as long as they were not on a respirator, which, one night at 2 am, I managed to have to put one of our cancer patients on a respirator only to get in trouble with the head nurse who feared having even more seriously ill patients on the floor!

 

Like at 2 am I had any choice but to put the patient on it because ICU was full..

 

However, I did meet my future hubby while working there:) I kept wondering why this 3rd year medical student kept following me around asking medical and personal questions, then he asked me out on a date while I was carrying blood back to my critically ill patient, and I exited the elevator while he was asking me, and leaving him alone on the elevator. When I saw him again I apologized and accepted the date, 

 

 I just don't treat people like that, but he just would not go away. Three children later, we are still together and happy, whoda' ever thunk it? Thankfully, as a pathologist, we have a pretty normal life with hubby being able to be mostly at home at night. When hubby is called in at night, it is really serious, and I understand why he has to leave.

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SusiQ - God Bless you .... thank you for the starting such an interesting topic.


Thank you MagniAesir, I seen your video posting. Did I tell you I developed a distaste for pork chops and bacon for a long time after that?  Haa, not kidding, its true. Of course I am okay with it now that I am certain its out of the food chain ...

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The pig farm was a local party place and most people of my generation were there at least once

My one brother in law used to do an annual pig roast

One guess where the pigs came from

It was years before we had another one

Bert and Anna Drayer were friends of ours and one of their foster daughters was one of the victims

Very sad

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I just cannot imagine what it must be like for the wives of LEO's. You men stand between us and the bad guys, and you came when there was/is danger to us citizens, you face the horrific accidents, and you see the worse that humanity does to each other on a daily bases.

 

Personally, Hubby and I highly and totally respect and admire you LEOs, and I am so thankful that you *chose* such a dangerous and difficult profession.

 

Our oldest boy, our West Point grad, is planning on returning home to our city when he is finished with his obligation, and applying to become a police officer here.

 

I'd love to have him here in the city with us, but Yikes Twice! Thankfully we have a calm really safe little town except drugs are making problems here as they are doing everywhere.


SusiQ - God Bless you .... thank you for the starting such an interesting topic.


Thank you MagniAesir, I seen your video posting. Did I tell you I developed a distaste for pork chops and bacon for a long time after that?  Haa, not kidding, its true. Of course I am okay with it now that I am certain its out of the food chain ...

Thanks Gumshoeye, But we are *so* totally off topic, and so far we have not been fussed at, thankfully, because I am enjoying discussing all of the topics we are talking about!

 

I absolutely do not want to see that video, but should I watch it so I don't feed my family something bad for them? What video, and is it about pork? 

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Here in Vancouver we had a serial killer named Robert Pickton

His family owned a pig farm, he fed many of his victims to their pigs

The video is a documentary on the murders

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Guys, This is still off topic, but I give money every month to the Wounded Warrior Project.

 

Is there a project that helps to support our wounded LEO's? If so, I wish to set up a monthly deduction for that project as I did with the wounded warriors.

 

Would you LEOs let me know where I can set up a monthly deduction for that project, if one exists, please?

If one does not exist, then we need to set something up for our wounded LEOs.


Here in Vancouver we had a serial killer named Robert Pickton
His family owned a pig farm, he fed many of his victims to their pigs
The video is a documentary on the murders

YIKES! Thanks Magni, well, I'm just speechless. I'm *not* ever watching that video.

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SweetSuziq - you are wonderful.  Its sooooo hared to cope with taking care of people.  

 

Lots of great discussion here.  Fantastic posts!

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I'm not trying to be a jerk but this notion of Sasquatch being a "gentle giant" or our woodland friend just drives me bonkers...it's so naive. At the VERY least it's a wild animal that like all other wild animals will defend his territory, young, food, etc. aggressively and with force. Now combine IMO their supreme intelligence and I think you're dealing with an animal that is not to be messed with...at least up close and personal.

Now I'm not saying all Sasquatches are mindless killing machines or will rip a human limb from limb at first chance but do I believe they would harm humans if they felt threatened or were hungry enough? Absolutely.

As far as people running down that podcast goes, that's just silly...they don't try to force a single belief or anything like that on there, they've had plenty of guests on that had timid Sasquatch encounters. They just portray the animal exactly how it should be.

Also Will Jevnig is one of the hosts on there and as far as I'm concerned, he's the best Sasquatch researcher alive far and away so he knows what he's talking about. Coonbo too, I respect his work and thoughts as well.

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Hello Jerm - I haven't heard (read) any discord about that program have you? It certainly seems as though there two different sides the coin on this topic. I submit that if they are as intelligent as we are led to believe, why wouldn't be possible to presume they mirror human behavior in some unforeseeable manner, as a matter of their innate being? We know there is mental illness among humans and to varying degrees, and other types of violent anti-social tendencies shared by other humans. Is it possible like us, to also have similar deficiencies in their gene pool? Just asking ...

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Jerm, I agree with everything you wrote, and because I had never heard of BF beheading people, and that they can be and sometimes are extremely dangerous, I started this topic to get to the truth of the matter.

 

I may avoid the forests, but my kids do not, and I worry when they are off hiking, forget them even camping because I fret until I hear from them.

 

My kids have no idea because they are unaware of the dangers because they do not believe in BF or the DM species:( no matter what I tell them. Kids! Can't live with them, and can't live without them.:(


I'm not trying to be a jerk but this notion of Sasquatch being a "gentle giant" or our woodland friend just drives me bonkers...it's so naive. At the VERY least it's a wild animal that like all other wild animals will defend his territory, young, food, etc. aggressively and with force. Now combine IMO their supreme intelligence and I think you're dealing with an animal that is not to be messed with...at least up close and personal.

Now I'm not saying all Sasquatches are mindless killing machines or will rip a human limb from limb at first chance but do I believe they would harm humans if they felt threatened or were hungry enough? Absolutely.

As far as people running down that podcast goes, that's just silly...they don't try to force a single belief or anything like that on there, they've had plenty of guests on that had timid Sasquatch encounters. They just portray the animal exactly how it should be.

Also Will Jevnig is one of the hosts on there and as far as I'm concerned, he's the best Sasquatch researcher alive far and away so he knows what he's talking about. Coonbo too, I respect his work and thoughts as well.

Jerm, I was naive, I truly thought that BF just watched us, and perhaps threw pine cones at us for interaction with humans, plus the stories from folks who have them living on their property who made them sound like friendly puppies.  I truly had no idea until I listened to Tim about the dangers they present to humans.

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The official total is 18 women although some aboriginal groups claim it is over 40.

This 500 mile stretch of road is extremely remote and rugged, think of similar roads in Alaska

Www.highwayoftears.ca

Bobby Jack Fowler may have killed as many as 10 of the victims however dna has only linked him to 1 case and he is strongly linked to 2 others

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/06/26/highway-of-tears-investigation-suspects_n_5534188.html?utm_hp_ref=highway-of-tears

 

18 women, what about all the children?  I wonder if officials might want to down play it.  I've read the over 40 figure, and one article I read had some claiming they thought it was over 60.  David Paulides claims in the U.S. he can't get official figures of numbers, adding his belief that officials here want to down play the dangers in the parks and will not acknowledge the clusters of missing people.  I don't know if Canada has the same problem.  I also don't know that sasquatches are a major factor in the missing people along the highway of tears, the overwhelming vast majority of missing being women and children.  I just know the many different Native American legends across different areas claimed they would steal women and children and eat them.  And I also believe the theory that the introduction of the gun into North America has pacified them some, whereas they were more dangerous in the days prior to that.  

 

Now, if they are still engaging in this dangerous behavior at times, it's probably rouge individuals or groups and not a common behavior among the greater majority.  But for those that might still engage in this behavior, they are such a stealthy creature which can avoid being seen I believe they can nab someone without being seen too, and being alone puts you at greater risk.  

 

I see some people going to extremes to extoll the virtuous nature of sasquatches when we really don't know to what degree they really are.  But overall I don't believe we should fear unprovoked attacks from the vast majority of sasquatches.  But the Dennis Martin case is one modern example that tells me this dangerous practice is not totally extinct.

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Meeting the first hurdle, Skeptics and Media

 

A trained eye sees something that doesn't fit or belong more so than a casual eye. Ever notice when a human suffers at the hand of wolf or bear attack, it is always the "first time," or "rare, very rare or extremely rare," it ever happened? Truth is these are wild animals doing what they do outdoors. On the other hand, Skeptics and media know the game well. In this scheme from the same playbook of persuasion and suggestion calls for placing words in places that disguise and placate the intended message. Their message neatly packaged in words meant to convey a "You can trust me," line directed toward the unwitting who fall under the power of suggestion. The words used again and again, as I illustrated above for examples can be spotted right away.

 

When you recall all of the messages and news reporting of Bigfoot over the years think about intended message and the subtle suggestion in the message. All contrived to discourage or discredit those individuals brave enough to say it, from speaking the truth.  

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