Bigfoot - Extreme Giants

[AaronD]

Agreed, I apologize for my part in the off topic. Join the PMP and meet us in the tar pit The Phaige

[ohiobill]

Getting back on topic - how about a recap?

 

Aaron and ThePhaige haven't presented squat when it comes to proving giants existed. The "evidence" they provided has so far turned out to be hoaxes in the cases examined without too much effort. 

 

Susieq believes the intentionally over-sized recreation of a femur made by Joe Taylor for an unverifiable and unbelievable story of Turkish giants belongs to a North American squatch. 

[AaronD]

Over 200 Giant digs have been found in recent years. Giant skeleton finds have not made the local/national news since the 1950’s for the most part. It seems in most peoples opinion do to the fear that people would question evolution. If anything a de-evolution. In 2002, National Geographic reported a dozen Cyclops skeletons found in Greece that stood 12-15 1/2 Ft tall. That is 3 humans tall. One eye socket. Giants in history are typically cannibalistic in nature. The reason why I am bringing up giants will all tie into politics, and word happenings. Look at a basketball hoop and add 5 feet. That tall. Greek Mythology talks about war with cyclops learning they had to bring down by taking out their legs rendering them slow and helpless. American Giants (Red Hair Giants) where found with egyptian writing on their tombs have been found in multiple locations. Mystery of The Wisconsin Giants Was this some sort of prank, a hoax played by local farm boys or a demented taxidermist for fun and the attention of the press? The answer is no. The Lake Delavan find of May 1912 was only one of dozens and dozens of similar finds that were reported in local newspapers from 1851 forward to the present day. It was not even the first set of giant skeletons found in Wisconsin. On 10 August 1891, the New York Times reported that scientists from the Smithsonian Institution had discovered several large “pyramidal monuments” on Lake Mills, near Madison, Wisconsin. “Madison was in ancient days the centre of a teeming population numbering not less than 200,000,” the Times said. The excavators found an elaborate system of defensive works which they named Fort Aztalan. “The celebrated mounds of Ohio and Indiana can bear no comparison, either in size, design or the skill displayed in their construction with these gigantic and mysterious monuments of earth — erected we know not by whom, and for what purpose we can only conjecture,” said the Times. On 20 December 1897, the Times followed up with a report on three large burial mounds that had been discovered in Maple Creek, Wisconsin. One had recently been opened. “In it was found the skeleton of a man of gigantic size. The bones measured from head to foot over nine feet and were in a fair state of preservation. The skull was as large as a half bushel measure. Some finely tempered rods of copper and other relics were lying near the bones.” Giant skulls and skeletons of a race of “Goliaths” have been found on a very regular basis throughout the Midwestern states for more than 100 years. Giants have been found in Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Ohio, Kentucky and New York, and their burial sites are similar to the well-known mounds of the Mound Builder people. The spectrum of Mound builder history spans a period of more than 5,000 years (from 3400 BCE to the 16th CE), a period greater than the history of Ancient Egypt and all of its dynasties. There is a “prevailing scholarly consensus” that we have an adequate historical understanding of the peoples who lived in North America during this period. However, the long record of anomalous finds like those at Lake Delavan suggests otherwise. The Great Smithsonian Cover-Up Has there been a giant cover-up? Why aren’t there public displays of gigantic Native American skeletons at natural history museums? The skeletons of some Mound Builders are certainly on display. There is a wonderful exhibit, for example, at the Aztalan State Park where one may see the skeleton of a “Princess of Aztalan” in the museum. But the skeletons placed on display are normal-sized, and according to some sources, the skeletons of giants have been covered up. Specifically, the Smithsonian Institution has been accused of making a deliberate effort to hide the “telling of the bones” and to keep the giant skeletons locked away. In the words of Vine Deloria, a Native American author and professor of law: “Modern day archaeology and anthropology have nearly sealed the door on our imaginations, broadly interpreting the North American past as devoid of anything unusual in the way of great cultures characterized by a people of unusual demeanor. “The great interloper of ancient burial grounds, the nineteenth century Smithsonian Institution, created a one-way portal, through which uncounted bones have been spirited. “This door and the contents of its vault are virtually sealed off to anyone, but government officials. Among these bones may lay answers not even sought by these officials concerning the deep past.” Two Giant Skeletons Near Potosi, WI The January 13th, 1870 edition of the Wisconsin Decatur Republican reported that two giant, well-preserved skeletons of an unknown race were discovered near Potosi, WI by workers digging the foundation of a saw mill near the bank of the Mississippi river. One skeleton measured seven-and-a-half feet, the other eight feet. The skulls of each had prominent cheek bones and double rows of teeth. A large collection of arrowheads and “strange toys” were found buried with the remains. Giant Skeleton Discovered in Maple Creek, WI On December 20th, 1897 the New York Times reported that three large burial mounds had been discovered near Maple Creek, WI. Upon excavation, a skeleton measuring over nine feet from head to toe was discovered with finely tempered copper rods and other relics. Giant Skeleton in West Bend, WI A giant skeleton was unearthed outside of West Bend near Lizard Mound County Park and assembled by local farmers to a height of eight feet. More about this can be found in Washington County Paranormal: A Wisconsin Legend Trip by local author and investigator J. Nathan Couch. While a normal-sized skeleton of a supposed mound builder (the “Princess of Aztalan”) is on display at the site of several large pyramidal monuments near Madison called Aztalan State Park, the goliath remains of Wisconsin’s giants have vanished along with the hundreds of others discovered throughout the midwest. Many have accused the Smithsonian Institution of covering up these discoveries, locking the giant skeletons away and depriving the public of their findings. - See more at:

Edited January 11, 2015 by AaronD
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[AaronD]

The full article can be found by going to this thread http://bigfootforums.com/index.php/topic/33220-the-sons-of-god-and-the-daughters-of-men-genesis-61-9/page-17 for those of you who have PMP. Any others please see myself or another member of staff to set you up

[See-Te-Cah NC]

We all enjoy the discussion some of our more thoughtful members conduct in the threads. While they may disagree, it's great to see the points/counterpoints discussed rationally.

 

Yes, the Premium Access is quite an avenue for discussion far beyond what's allowed on the General Forum. We'd indeed love to have you all join us there!

[ohiobill]

Whoa...slow down. Rather than try to overwhelm me with a wall of poorly researched snippets let's examine them fairly. You're off to a poor start since NG never claimed they found 15' cyclops but rather what may have been behind the cyclops myth on Crete.

 

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/02/0205_030205_cyclops.html

 

Pick out 2 more and I will try to do some digging today.

 

Thanks See, good to see you posting.

[AaronD]

Ohiobill, I'm doing some final editing on my novel today so forgive me if my attention to you is minimal...tomorrow I must return to work so I can realize my dream to be wealthy when I grow up--err, just be wealthy

[ohiobill]

Fair enough, good luck.

[Guest]

Susie, I believe you believe that the intentionally over-sized model of a Native American female's femur created by Joe Taylor of the Mt. Blanco Fossil Museum for display with an unverified account of giants supposedly found near Ain-tell in Turkey where all possible evidence has been destroyed due to road construction belongs to a North American squatch. 

I sincerely would not be surprised if DNA came back unknown. I think that a rare number of BF could reach those heights, as we occasionally see 7-8+ tall humans. IMVHO:)

[ohiobill]

There is no DNA present in the femur model, it's a recreation made by Joe Taylor. It's not real and never was. 

[ohiobill]

 Harvard admiited marijuana cures cancer. So have other well known universities.

I read that too. 

 

Also do some research on the Hunza peoples, they have little to no cancer and also live very long consistently. They eat lots of apricots but they also eat the pits and seeds which have high concentrations of B-17...anyhoo a bit off topic but relevant to where the discussion went to a degree.

 

http://www.vitaminb17.org/temp/hunza.htm

I'd be cautious believing too much of that. Remember we are talking about rural Pakistan, an area with few natural resources, not an idyllic garden as portrayed. Some of the pics are beautiful though. I'm sure you can find some recently returned service members who will gladly tell you how they found the general region and the people in similar areas. It might be interesting to hear about any giant stories they may have encountered while over there. Try this site for a more comprehensive (and imo much more accurate) view.

 

http://biblelife.org/hunza.htm 

[ThePhaige]

[ThePhaige]

[Incorrigible1]

Evidently examples of a population where individuals are far taller than the norm. Proving what?

[ohiobill]

That's what I was wondering Inc. I thought we were going to continue posting hoaxes, throwing out as much as we could until something stuck? What do the frail folks suffering horrendous joint pain and limited mobility above have in common with giant squatch? Phaige - Are you suggesting that outlier humans of above average stature could possibly be mistaken for squatch? Welcome to the dark side my friend!

 

 So...are we going forward with pics or hoax blurbs with no research and limited context? Just trying to plan ahead here...