Lake County Bigfooot Posted November 14, 2016 Author Posted November 14, 2016 I will have to do my own research on all this skinwalker ranch phenomena as it is all new to me. I think that the tendency is however, as was done in the 70s documentary works, to lump all this together. Whether or not UFO phenomena occurs near areas where bigfoot are sighted is a valid question, obviously now the focus seems to be drifting from UFOs to orbs, so perhaps the understanding of the phenomena is evolving, rather that just being filed into a most convenient paradigm, In the 70s UFO hysteria was real, as was bigfoot hysteria to some extent, so things kind of get skewed a bit.
hiflier Posted November 14, 2016 Posted November 14, 2016 May as well start here then: http://skinwalkerranch.org/blog/index.php?frontpage
Guest OntarioSquatch Posted November 14, 2016 Posted November 14, 2016 Hunt for The Skinwalker by Colm A. Kelleher (NIDS scientist) is probably the best source of information on the ranch and the area around it.
ShadowBorn Posted November 14, 2016 Moderator Posted November 14, 2016 Fine we do not talk about the paranormal stuff about this creature and yet what is that everyone is paying attention too. Skin walker ranch that has more paranormal activity that cannot be explained. Money spent and all with even projects that came out of it for Snasa ( oops NASA ). But yet funding will not be spent on something that can be proven if some type of funding could be made for the discovery of this species (Bigfoot). How can we waste time on the skin walker ranch if it has nothing to do with the Bigfoots. Did the skin walker ranch have some thing to do with them making their way to this dimension. If they are dimensional then yes I would that say there is a connection with the skin walker ranch. I would also be in line with the cattle mutilations. But that does not show what I have found and keep on finding. The paranormal is one thing and I am willing to put that aside and just keep dealing with this creature as an animal. If you deal with them on a paranormal level our level to process is difficult. If we deal with them on the level that they are a natural being in our living world then we tend to learn that they have adapted. They have learned or either chosen to live near us and have maybe always watched our presence.
hiflier Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 (edited) Totally agree Shadowborn. It's why I push for finding a skeleton or carcass- especially just after winter. I had gone through all of the UFO, Skinwalker, NIDS, Robert T. Bigelow, Kelleher stuff several years ago mostly out of curiosity. I was on the trail of the Black Triangles as being military craft and stumbled across Mr. Bigelow and the NIDS in the process. Let's just say that I have my thoughts regarding the Black Triangles. A far as the Skinwalker Ranch though it's all anecdotal evidence and we all know how THAT goes Black Triangle reports still come into MUFON and NUFORC fairly often but I really doubt if the reports are not being fabricated. Lots of BF reports too and I think the same about them as well. Lot a fabricated reports and I'll tell you and everyone why I think that at some point in time. Are all BF reports fabricated? I'm pretty sure the answer is no they are not all being fabricated. But I'll bet as much as 75%-90% are fabricated. Both t massive increase in UFO reports of all types along with the increased number of BF reports in the last 25 years follow the same pattern of higher activity. And like I said I have my reasons and deep suspicions regarding the respective spikes in the reporting of both UFO's and BF. Neither jump in the two groups of sightings makes a bit of sense to me. Not one bit of sense at all. Edited November 15, 2016 by hiflier
Guest OntarioSquatch Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 The increase in reports of Sasquatch and UFOs correlates with the introduction and popularization of research organizations and their online databases. There's a decrease in reports the further back in time you look and this is simply because there wasn't anywhere for people to report their experiences to. Another aspect of reports that people often misunderstand is the decrease in the number of reports for several years prior to the current year. It takes time for people to submit reports so naturally, there won't be as many reports for 2015 compared to 2011. I'm still working on an accurate estimate for the percentage of authentic reports made publically available by the BFRO but so far I've been able to narrow it to 85-99%. It's important to note that only about 1/10 of reports submitted to the BFRO are made available. They pick what they think are the most credible ones. I have no idea how to do an estimate on unavailable reports.
Guest Waggles Posted November 15, 2016 Posted November 15, 2016 Concerning the BFRO, they probably base published reports on witness interviews and "no woo". 4th and or 5th dimensional aspects might look like a window or portal opening. Dr. Who stuff from the 60s would inform you on this. The telephone booth portal device he had etc. There is a huge woo element to BF when you talk to enough people.
hiflier Posted November 16, 2016 Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) You know, this is going to sound a bit insensitive and may step on some toes but I think the UFO woo was misinformation to cover up secret operations and programs. And by the same token I think Bigfoot woo is the same thing- an attempt to get us to not blame science for taking the ball on this and to put the solving of the Bigfoot issue into the "we-are-helpless-because-we-can't-tackle-the-beings-that-use-portals" camp. HOGWASH! Using this extreme paranormal junk WRT Sasquatch is a ploy to divert attention from it being a real and simple flesh and blood animal. That kind of disinformation lets science off the hook as an excuse for why they won't tackle this. And to distract us from the concept that science has already tackled the issue and wants our mitts out of the soup. As a reality check it's the only thing that makes sense. Someone started this woo stuff and it has exploded from there. it's HOGWASH! A diversion, and a means to keep field researchers between a rock and a hard place in which they go out by themselves with no funding or anything else to run this mystery to ground. A real world mystery that's without the otherworldly junk that's been thrown at it- and at us. Believe the alien thing if you want but I gotta tell you there is no way science believes that anymore than they believe in portal Bigfoot. Time to get real and go after the animal- because that's all it is. It doesn't chase cars in a UFO or floating off the ground. It chases cars with its feet flapping on the ground- just like us. Earth Animal! Edited November 16, 2016 by hiflier
Guest Waggles Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 I had a similar belief with the dog man issue it's like they're promoting the Dogman issue to distract from Bigfoot but I don't think it's working. dog man would be some kind of alien hybrid thing though if it was real. like the island of doctor Moron. Spell checker keeps correcting.
hiflier Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Oh I don't know Waggles, I think your spell checker is working just fine
Guest OntarioSquatch Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 On a popular "skeptic" forum I came across a lot of individuals who were determined to believe there's no such thing as Sasquatch. Later I learned that they kept that stance because they couldn't handle the pain that contridictory/opposing evidence created in their minds. They've accepted what to them is the most likely answer and dismiss anything that's inconsistent with it. In other words, they prioritize conclusiveness over truth. It also turns out that some of them were hardcore proponents at some point. It makes me wonder how many people here have that exact mentality. These sort of people make for the worst researchers imaginable for this and similar subjects.
guyzonthropus Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 Hiflier- you at have a valid point there, it's certainly a possibility. Though there is an awful lot of paranormal aspects reported as well. Sure, these could be the result of multiple events occurring at the same time, in various combinations. But the idea that the scientific community uses the woozez as public justification to "avoid and discredit" the phenomenon they have already got answers for does make sense on a number of levels.
hiflier Posted November 17, 2016 Posted November 17, 2016 DANG GZ, and I thought I was the only weirdo skulking around this here Forum
Lake County Bigfooot Posted November 18, 2016 Author Posted November 18, 2016 The old saying is the simplest answer is probably the correct one. So if it eats, sleeps, poops, builds shelters, leaves foot prints, well of course it must be alien.
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