Guest Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 He would probably remember the unit and the soldiers he saw a Sasquatch with. I'm glad you added "probably" as that leaves wiggle room... Are you aware of the dynamics of an Army company? How many soldiers can be assigned to that unit? How the squads change sometimes on a weekly basis? How there are soldiers in your unit you may RARELY have more than a "hello" for? Just as in real society, everyone doesn't socialize with everyone. I never said the other two soldiers were my friends or even associates. Do you believe every soldier is familiar and friends with every other soldier? Are you aware you can have duty with a soldier who's in your unit, sure, but he's a darn COOK...While you're in supply or recon or personnel or any dozens of other specialties? You see them in the hall or in formation but you never socialize? Smh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980squatch Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Wonder if there are any updates on this sighting. Man, you must be seriously bored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 Delta Zu, I have no intention of debunking your story. I just found it odd that names and unit numbers are something that you don't care about, yet that is the first detail you give. Also the point of my previous post was, the sighting of a mythological creature would tend to solidify details such as that, no matter how big and confusing the Army is. That's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sacripper Posted January 29, 2015 Share Posted January 29, 2015 I am a thirteen year Air Force veteran. I don't recall the unit of my basic training. I do not recall the unit of my tech school. I do recall my first duty assignment, the 27th TCS in utah. I do think the unit went through a change while I was there, though I don't know to what. Then I went to the Clark AB in the Philippines and was assigned to (I think) The 77th mobile comm squadron. I went do Desert shield/storm with that unit, where I was attached to some other unit I do not recall. I could go on. Point is that for Zu not to recall some arbitrary digits assigned by unless sam is not very supra sing to me. I have decided that I am a visual person, and I could draw you floor plans of every building I was assigned to with pretty good accuracy, can you?. Others are phone-number date oriented people. We are all different. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I use to be on a couple news blogs and there was a guy that went by delta and delta/Zulu.....you wouldn't happen to be that guy would you? Edited January 30, 2015 by frosty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2015 Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) I'm glad you added "probably" as that leaves wiggle room... Are you aware of the dynamics of an Army company? How many soldiers can be assigned to that unit? How the squads change sometimes on a weekly basis? How there are soldiers in your unit you may RARELY have more than a "hello" for? Just as in real society, everyone doesn't socialize with everyone. I never said the other two soldiers were my friends or even associates. Do you believe every soldier is familiar and friends with every other soldier? Are you aware you can have duty with a soldier who's in your unit, sure, but he's a darn COOK...While you're in supply or recon or personnel or any dozens of other specialties? You see them in the hall or in formation but you never socialize? Smh... I read the thread and agree. The video may or may not be presumptively valid but the military unit issue with not recalling something as basic as your unit raises some questions of faulty explanation leading to greater overall questions about the story told. Something occurs when most people have encounters. Whatever emotional and physiological changes they experience it becomes so shockingly abrupt that it remains forever imprinted and leaves indelible impressions in your memory and time. In instances of exigent circumstances that is, when something occurs so quick and stunning that you remember salient details like a photo snapshot without giving it a second thought, tends to lend itself to shock and memory. While I could not possibly remember all the names of some 120 men in my Army Company, I know their faces as there were in that time in my memory. I could probably rattle off a dozen or so names if pressed too. I have photos and regularly communicate with soldiers in arms from years past. I can easily remember our units and a few others that were support groups and most if not all major training or posts I was ever stationed without Bigfoot encounters. So understandably people question why an individual can experience lapses in memory at the most inopportune time of their experience just doesn't stand up under scrutiny. Just Saying .... (Served 2 tours, last of which as Army MPI, military police investigator) Edited January 30, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I use to be on a couple news blogs and there was a guy that went by delta and delta/Zulu.....you wouldn't happen to be that guy would you? No, this is the first and only site I use this name online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 I read the thread and agree. The video may or may not be presumptively valid but the military unit issue with not recalling something as basic as your unit raises some questions of faulty explanation leading to greater overall questions about the story told. Something occurs when most people have encounters. Whatever emotional and physiological changes they experience it becomes so shockingly abrupt that it remains forever imprinted and leaves indelible impressions in your memory and time. In instances of exigent circumstances that is, when something occurs so quick and stunning that you remember salient details like a photo snapshot without giving it a second thought, tends to lend itself to shock and memory. While I could not possibly remember all the names of some 120 men in my Army Company, I know their faces as there were in that time in my memory. I could probably rattle off a dozen or so names if pressed too. I have photos and regularly communicate with soldiers in arms from years past. I can easily remember our units and a few others that were support groups and most if not all major training or posts I was ever stationed without Bigfoot encounters. So understandably people question why an individual can experience lapses in memory at the most inopportune time of their experience just doesn't stand up under scrutiny. Just Saying .... (Served 2 tours, last of which as Army MPI, military police investigator) Are people talking just to talk now...face palm. ... How did we even get to this? No wonder this subject gets no where. The people who frequent this topic are just......face palm status.... Not even directing at you in particular... We've been invaded by these things which aren't even humans (but thats another thread or even forum) and proudly proclaim, "I'M A SKEPTIC!!!" as if that's something to be proud about. Have even made it cool in some circles to be labeled as such. It's cool to display skepticism in certain circumstances but some people, you can't tell them water is wet without their need to investigate. Really a sad way to exist, well if they were fully human it would be lol. Skepticism is lack of faith in your "fellow" humanity. The op was about my experience with a bigfoot. I mentioned my unit, the person's first and dominating objective, was to investigate was there such a unit. Are you kidding me! I just detailed briefly the dynamics of an Army battalion. The hundreds of soldiers, how we all aren't friends or socialize. Of course I remember those I socialized with! These two happened to be soldiers I didn't. I have their faces in memory, their names, not so much. This was about 20 years ago! We didn't socialize before or after the event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2015 Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Are people talking just to talk now...face palm. ... How did we even get to this? No wonder this subject gets no where. The people who frequent this topic are just......face palm status.... Not even directing at you in particular... We've been invaded by these things which aren't even humans (but thats another thread or even forum) and proudly proclaim, "I'M A SKEPTIC!!!" as if that's something to be proud about. Have even made it cool in some circles to be labeled as such. It's cool to display skepticism in certain circumstances but some people, you can't tell them water is wet without their need to investigate. Really a sad way to exist, well if they were fully human it would be lol. Skepticism is lack of faith in your "fellow" humanity. The op was about my experience with a bigfoot. I mentioned my unit, the person's first and dominating objective, was to investigate was there such a unit. Are you kidding me! I just detailed briefly the dynamics of an Army battalion. The hundreds of soldiers, how we all aren't friends or socialize. Of course I remember those I socialized with! These two happened to be soldiers I didn't. I have their faces in memory, their names, not so much. This was about 20 years ago! We didn't socialize before or after the event. Reading and re-reading as much as humanly possible about this thread and others can be long, arduous, and sometimes frustrating. I apologize if you felt slighted; it was not meant to be and for that my apologies to you if you felt that way. Likewise you may not have directed your messages toward me personally but this is a public Bigfoot forum and therefore everybody and anybody will and does comment. I agree being skeptical and asking questions is healthy for discussion. Being a skeptic is no problem with me for that matter I admire your honesty. Nothing posted in my message was meant to impugn your character at all; in contrast I was exercising a bit of skepticism myself…. I’m sure you understand. As I mentioned, I know from first-hand experience how difficult it is to remember names of all my company compatriots let alone a battalion as you say. Again, I (me not you) can remember the units I served with all along the way and that is especially the case if something so significant occurred that would cause me imprint and commit that to memory. For two brief examples, while oversees I remember driving a young gunshot wounded soldier to hospital for emergency care and I remember another soldier killed in my car that I sold to him during another time. Those things are examples of memories that are imprinted in my memory. I hope this helps. Thanks for your service my friend …. Edited January 31, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCBFr Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Reading this thread got me thinking about how it must suck to be a skeptic. To be right you have to disprove every single person (and there are probably thousands) that says they saw a bigfoot and explain away every single picture and video. To do this you must latch on to any and every grain of fact that does not add up 100% and then make the case that the whole story is wrong because one grain of data does not in their mind make sense. It really must be a lonely pursuit. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 You said it well NCBRR, but doesn’t the same thing occur when people read reports and news articles of accounts of personal encounters or listen to people's personal hardships exacted on them for reporting such bizarreness? Persuading people with accounts of personal encounters and reports are far less successful than most will ever know. IMHO The point is we are all predisposed to accept only that which suits our own personal biases by clinging to what is pleasant and rejecting that which is unpleasant like fight or flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Well the skeptics get some help there, 90% of the general public don't want them to exist, really, really, don't want them to exist. A large majority of the "civilians" who've witnessed them, want them to un-exist. So it's a bit like a convenient lie, that everyone is happy with, apart from anyone who took "the red pill". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 (edited) Well this is a Bigfoot Forum and not a skeptic’s guild, lest we forget. People that have direct knowledge of their existence find refuge knowing other like-minded are willing to come together in discussion. Not wanting to believe something like that doesn't make them go away or not exist either. Edited February 3, 2015 by Gumshoeye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DWA Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 Summer 2010 I was at Glacier National Park in Montana I overheard a conversation between two vacationing retired couples. One couple was telling the story to the other couple that the previous day they were hiking a trail in the park and came across a park ranger that was closing the trail down. The Park Ranger told them they needed to turn around and get off the trail as fast as possible, that a couple hiking had just came across a Bigfoot walking around and the area needed to be closed off for a couple days. The couple listening to the story said they thought Bigfoot wasn't real. The couple telling the story said, "That's What We Thought!!!" They said they weren't from Montana (from some city I can't remember) but the Park Ranger said it so matter-of-fact that they didn't know what to think; they guess they must be real. So, of course I can't get this out of my head, and a little later I came across a Park Ranger and asked straightforward if there were Bigfoots in Glacier National Park, and the Ranger said that he's heard a couple instances where park ranger's had seen a Bigfoot, but there's no official reporting they would do, nor any secret government file they keep. He said he'd never seen one himself, and never even put that much thought into if they truly exist, but if he did see one he'd just consider it part of the rest of the wildlife in the park. Plus he said it would just be a story that would earn him some ribbing from the other ranger's. I was surprised how lightly he talked about the subject of Bigfoot, like there was no particular fascination or mystery, but "just another animal in the Park" I guess it really is 'all relative'! Came across this today. It's really funny sometimes that the public line on an issue is hahahahahahahahahahahaha!...and meanwhile out there in the real world, the public is little by little and on the QT getting educated and informed. Reading this thread got me thinking about how it must suck to be a skeptic. To be right you have to disprove every single person (and there are probably thousands) that says they saw a bigfoot and explain away every single picture and video. To do this you must latch on to any and every grain of fact that does not add up 100% and then make the case that the whole story is wrong because one grain of data does not in their mind make sense. It really must be a lonely pursuit. I prefer "simply uninformed about how life and science work." Skeptics as a body simply refuse to understand that the thing we do here in science is use the evidence to assess the competing cases, and determine their *relative likelihoods.* Skeptics simply don't get that a reasonable person assessing the evidence would consider every alternative scenario to "they're real" far-wilder-than-Powerball-winner-last-ten-drawings unlikely. Which is how one knows that, for the most part, reasonable people don't assess the evidence, but simply parrot what they have been told is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKBFFan Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 I read the thread and agree. The video may or may not be presumptively valid but the military unit issue with not recalling something as basic as your unit raises some questions of faulty explanation leading to greater overall questions about the story told. Thank you. That's the point I was trying to make. And for the record, I am not a skeptic regarding Bf's existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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